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14/10/2012 at 17:59

RJ.. Top stuff there!  Is that your PB?

Charlie.. congrats on sub 75, told you so, don't give up on the PB's yet!

TR.. really chuffed for you, cracking half there!  Get yourself up to the York BM for a flat course smackdown!

Andy.. ice pack on that 15-20 mins at a time (2-3 hours in between).  Can't be too careful.  You've put in a lot of good work this campaign, everything to lose now & nothing to gain.

Jamesito.. sorry to hear you can't do Abo.  Congrats on mini Jamesito II however!

Jools.. nice long run there.  Not sure what wild hare is but I assume alcohol is a content!  Are you 'up for' VLM this year or looking forward to other challenges?

5m XC went well.  As a result of the water that has fallen up here recently, the course was a quagmire with bogs, climbing over gates, flooded sections, dog dodging etc.  Pleased to hang onto sub 7's with 34.33 at the finish.  Glorious blue sky day so did another 6m to take me into double figures.  Nice buffet & beer in the pub afterwards.  I'm about a minute faster than the same course last year on firmer ground so I will take that as progress.  

14/10/2012 at 18:16

Ah, clearly Bath Ales don't make it that far north.  Wild Hare is a local beer.  Very nice, but quite strong.  Hic!

14/10/2012 at 18:52
Awesome half mara times there lads, with some big landmark barriers going down.

6th place for me too in my comeback race over 8.2 miles. Didn't wear watch, no finish line clock (wtf) & results not up. So no idea how quick or slow.

Didn't feel too fast tbh and I was well and truly chicked by the first lass. Abo will ask some searching questions next week.
14/10/2012 at 19:05

Wardi - indeed it is. Quite a big one by 2mins 15 but that was a 'slightly sub-maximal during marathon training' effort. Excellent stuff on the XC for you and I agree a great day for running.

Oh and looking at the results from today, as I finished 8th it looks like that 'plastic Brit' Marders did me out of 'fifth Brit' (Kenyan one, two) and thus £100. It'd been nice (for me) if his citizenship hadn't come through until tomorrow. Well done fella if you still lurk. A couple of very nice scalps there too. Good luck to you and Marigold next week too.

Amdy hope it turns out to be nothing and looks like a wise decision to can the session.

LS21 great to see you running well fella. Looking forward to reading about the glory of Abo.

I will be up for BM by the way folks so hopefully will get to meet a few of you in the real sense!

14/10/2012 at 19:06

ooo, and nice to see you racing again Dan. I may well be putting in another order fairly soon.

14/10/2012 at 19:12

RJ - I missed your post, well done on the PB.

Wardi - York ! I dont travel more than 50M (unless its VLM). Good run there.

Good to see Dan back in action.

Today wasnt a PB for me in terms of in the record books, but it is in terms of PBs that I've run myself, but I dont run 1/2s when I'm VLM fit so would have a faster PB if I did. Today was a Hants Road Runner league race, but I managed to bag the 1st pikey award so that was good.

14/10/2012 at 19:41

TR -- so you were fully 2.5 mins under target today... go on, taper for Gosport and amaze us all (and yourself). You've been working so hard in training for the IM/2 -- may as well cash it in now. [Edit: and yes was a PB for me by 1:12, which I really wasn't expecting. Already had a beer...]

RJ -- sub-70 is real big boys' stuff -- epic. And it's 69:47 officially as you've no doubt seen now.

Well run over your indeterminate distances Wardi/Dan!

Edited: 14/10/2012 at 19:42
14/10/2012 at 19:43

Did a fairly hilly 10k a couple of hours after a 2k swim race yesterday. Took it pretty easy in the first half and then picked it up to the end. Finished 4th in 35:30 without pushing too hard so I'm well happy with that.

Great HM times there. Well done.

14/10/2012 at 19:48

B_Kins -- 2 races in 2 hours has to be some kind of record in itself! Nice one.

RJ -- I meant to say, having looked at the results I realise I was 3rd MV40 and should have got a trinket to remember it by, but stupidly left without it even occurring to me that I should wait for prizes. Did you wait, and if so was there a prize-giving for the bit-part category trophies? Maybe they'll post it (though the postage would cost more than the object I'm sure).

14/10/2012 at 19:51

TR - well done & well deserved

14/10/2012 at 19:55

Charlie I didnt hang around long enough either. I think the race info said they would post out prizes other than top five.

Oh and btw do I have to take the gun time, or can I sneak an extra second with the chip time?

Nice racing Bkins.

Edited: 14/10/2012 at 19:58
14/10/2012 at 20:21

CW - I didnt aim to run 1:22:59 though (dont forget that I usually go through 1/2 way at VLM in ~1:25/6), I just run on feel and see how it goes. Was holding a steady pace and still have the odd word with AL_P, seem to remember 5M in 30:50 ish, 10 in 61:40 ish so even paced. Then some 6:20s as it goes uphill towards the finish. I'll have a beer myself later.

Birch - cheers. U16s won indoors tonight and the eldest batted well.

Edited: 14/10/2012 at 20:33
14/10/2012 at 20:51

[LENGTHY RACE REPORT AHEAD, WARNING!]   Wanted to tell you guys tho.

Liverpool Marathon over - 2:55:34. That's a PB, from my previous (and only) best, 3:48. Chuffed to bits. Weather couldn't have been better - 5 degrees c at the start, rising to nearly 10, no wind. Well organised race, prompt start, and great support.

To start with, I was glad to feel out the pace I'd planned on (6:40-6:50), and did the first 4 miles up a slight slope feeling relaxed. Onto the waterfront, I felt even better, and caught onto a group that pushed the pace forward more (6:30-ish) - a little more than they should, I thought. I decided to ease back a little from them, but didn't get too far behind. Descending into the Mersey tunnel, I started to feel the wear on my quads, so eased the pace going down and up, and made half in just under 1:28. Out into the sunlight, I felt like the concentration might be slipping - people started peeling off at this point - so I sped up a little (6:35ish), until the course's only hill, which I took pretty easy. Around 20 miles, I felt more wear on the quads, but comfortable elsewhere: it was my legs, not my 'engine' that would be the limiting factor. Each mile after that made me more confident, and I passed people steadily, and really opened up down the big hill near the finish, to do the last mile as my fastest (6:11). The experience was amazing - and makes me want to see what I can do next time, with the added confidence and feedback from this training cycle.

Negative split!! Here's to more of those. Very fun.

Cheers to all for best wishes and good advice!! Do I get to learn the secret handshake now?

14/10/2012 at 21:12
Congratulations for a great day's racing RJ, CW, TR and CP. CW: keep believing on the PBs, I got a new 10k pb last year and HM this year, although much slower than yours. Well done to TR for excelling on tired legs, and RJ for being properly fast.

But best of all, well done to CP for doing what it says at the top the page.
14/10/2012 at 21:21

Chronotopian: congratulations!  And that is not a lengthy race report; certainly not given the magnitude of the celebrations.  

Nice to see DanA racing again.

14/10/2012 at 21:23

That's really good running Chronotopian and a massive PB. can anyone else say they knocked about 53 mins off their mara PB? Looks like a very well run race too with a marginal neg split.

I did Liverpool last year and although I thought it was a good race I found it a far from easy course. It was windy last year and I felt it was reasonably undulating. Maybe it was really the wind that was accentuating the extra effort and thius any inclines were truly hard going. Not sure I had the greatest of days that day either so maybe that just built up my neagtive thoguths of the course.


14/10/2012 at 21:25

TR -- that's just it, we know you're in shape to turn in a really impressive time on a flat course with a right-way-round taper... we just never get to discover it with your inverse tapers and tough courses!

chrono -- massive congrats. That's a hell of a PB jump! And the fast last mile shows that you were super-mature and reserved in terms of pace. My best races have been negative splits (was today in fact by ~30 sec) but i've singularly failed to do so in the marathon, 2 min +ve split being par for the course.

14/10/2012 at 21:26


Chrono - awesome!

TR - top running, interested to see what you run in the next one now

CW - great barrier to break for you

RJ - quality pb

YD - yeah it can be tough if the wind gets up and that section on a rough track takes it out of you too. Great set up down there too though

Wardi - nice xc racing

Jools - you clearly know how I felt on my run today then, lol You just put in more effort than me

A very easy paced 1hr hangover run. Discovered there's a cycle path which takes you right out to Tynemouth on the coast so a great option for long runs.

Edited: 14/10/2012 at 21:27
14/10/2012 at 21:29

Excellent stuff chronotopian. Very well done. Sounds like an excellently controlled race!

Very nicely run TR!!! On fresh legs I'd have thought your 'record books' pb should be considerably under threat!

And likewise CW!!! That's got to be some nice justification for not shutting up shop a few weeks ago when you were suffering with repeated niggles!
I'll give you the 30m; that was a pretty big day, but the rest was very controlled.

Well run RJ. I really need to get my HM down to similar levels if I'm going to start getting my Mara pb down significantly.

Fingers crossed it turns out to be nothing AndyD.

That sounds like pretty sizeable progress to me Wardi. Nice one.

Dan - I'm sure it will have bust some rust for next week.

After 2 weeks of nothing, tomorrow I become a runner again. I can't wait to get back to it

14/10/2012 at 21:30

chrono - That's a way to smash a PB.  Brilliant run. 

RJ - congrats again on GER, sub-70 is one helluva barrier to smash.

TR - Good work fella.  I too would be interested to see how ''sub''-80 you could go on fresh legs at Gosport.

CW - Sub-75 is another great barrier, very happy for you considering your HM history.  Was a good day for it, with two of my club mates qualifying for VLM Champs for the first time.  Kent won the team prize today and I might be just a tad disappointed not to have been a part of it.  Ho hum, plenty of other races...

Dan - Good to see you racing again.

Andy - Hopefully a little rest will sort you out.  My calf was pretty battered this time last week but feels normal now.  Good luck.

I definitely made the right choice pulling out of GER today.  Pretty sure there's something still lurking, equivalent to about 20-30 secs/mile according to my HR/pace on a 15 mile run today.  Also managed 40-odd miles on the bike on track/road yesterday.  Maybe I'll be healthy for XC and Cabbage Patch next week.  if not I'll just hit the booze and chocolate harder.  Fcuk it. 


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