Sub 3

For anyone trying to crack the 3 in any marathon anywhere in the world

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18/10/2012 at 21:58

Forgot to say - SL, shame about Abo. You could probably get a last minute place in the Town Moor Marathon for next weekend if you're wanting to run a marathon still. It's not the easiest course (5 multi terrain laps), but you can't beat the Geordie spirit. I don't think it's sold out. 

19/10/2012 at 09:36

RS78, I have a place for London but will probably defer it. I'm going to continue trying to get the shorter distance times down. Looking at Autumn 2013 for next mara.

Wardi, initially I was disappointed, but when I saw the official results and the penny dropped, I was happier. Problem was that I had convinced myself I was going to do the sub80. Hopefully see you in York.

19/10/2012 at 12:23

Brian - thats more like it. There's no guarantees in target times, it said 5:10 on my garage door all winter and I bagged a 5:37, 27mins of over-time ! You managed about 45 seconds of it.

All the best to any Abo runners, who's in ?

Making puddles and swimming in bigger lido shaped puddles for me today.

19/10/2012 at 12:51

Good luck to all those running on the weekend at Abingdon, Amsterdam, Cabbage Patch and elsewhere.  Sorry to hear SL is out of Abingdon, there does seem to be something going around, judging by the amount of people coughing and spluttering down my neck on the bus.

Due to continual foot soreness every time I try to run, I'm taking a week off to try to hopefully get rid of it.  May try to get down to the physio at some point and see what it is.  It's a soreness on the top ridge of the foot, that seems to spread a little to other parts of the upper foot when I run.  Doesn't really hurt to walk on, unless I'm walking quick, and it isn't really intense pain when I run either, it's just that it's constant.  When resting I can barely feel it.  Anyway, this means I'm not running Cabbage Patch this weekend.

Alcohol - not so much anymore, but that's more about having kids than running.

Edited: 19/10/2012 at 12:52
19/10/2012 at 15:40

Good luck to Marigold and Marders tomorrow - I'm looking forward to seeing how you guys do! Good luck to all the others racing at the weekend too - I've lost track of who's doing Abingdon, Amsterdam etc.

SL - gutting about Abingdon, but as you say, you can get back into it much sooner and nail some other races.

Dachs - seems sensible to bin the race. Are you lacing you shoes differently/tighter? Top of the foot always makes me think of laces.

10M for me last night. I wanted an easier run with the club, but quite a few fast guys showed up which meant that I had to run 6:2x pace for most of it just to stay in touch.

19/10/2012 at 16:09

yeah good luck all the weekend racers, and sorry for those benched or lurgified and pulling DNS's or just having to rest which also sucks. 

don't folks advice that 1 week pre marathon you don't do a full on half marathon race?  but do those rules not apply when doing a 50km race, then a 65min half the week before is fine?

19/10/2012 at 17:37

selbs - wasnt a full on race I guess. Plus those boys do proper miles.

PAdams - interesting re the 10M, made me wonder how many of those I've done myself recently, it appears that I have run 10M (or more) only 5 times in the last 3 months. Whilst I can blag 1/2's on that I had best shape up over the winter and get the mileage into triple digits each month.

19/10/2012 at 17:38

A long absence. Have had a very tough time but at least I'm still running!

Anyway on here to wish everyone all the very very best for Abingdon etc. Will do some reading back tomorrow to see how folk are prepared etc.

Edited: 19/10/2012 at 18:12
19/10/2012 at 18:16
Speedy - sorry Munich didn't quite go to plan. I sometimes find a 'bad' one helps stoke the fire in the belly. You'll knock chunks off your pb in London now. Just watch.

SL - shame that ABO is a DNS but sure you'll find another one in the next month or so. Don't forget I had to sack off London and still maintained a good level of fitness into Edinburgh five weeks later. You can do the same. All the best.

LS21, Jock and others at Abo. Hope everything goes to plan this weekend. Weather looks quite good for it.

Decided to sack off cabbage patch on Sunday. Quite frankly, I can't be arsed. I've had a great(for me) running year breaking 2:30 for the full and 70 for the half, 53 for 10 miles and finally started to get a better handle on shorter distances too with some consistent 5ks. Just going to take it easy for the next few days/weeks before I start thinking about putting in a bit more work.
Edited: 19/10/2012 at 18:17
19/10/2012 at 19:10

Dachs -- I'd echo Padams -- I got sore tops-of-feet when I experimented with elastic laces, which impinged rather on the feet, being less limp than normal string. Are you overtightening your laces? It was a real relief for me sussing that out as it was so trivial, and I feared (as always) it might be something nasty.

19/10/2012 at 20:11


TR - got dates wrong

Brian - sounds like a good plan, basically what I've done since April really

25 mins easy this afternoon, felt more normal.

Edited: 19/10/2012 at 20:12
19/10/2012 at 22:01

SL - my local Costco does a 12 pack that has 3 each of Hobgoblin, Goliath, Scarecrow and Wychcraft for a good price

Good luck for Sunday RS78.

Wardi - between the pair of us we've probably taken the worst of the injury jinxes away from everybody else

Sorry to hear about the foot Dachs. Hopefully the rest does the job. Opposite for me to CW. I only use elastic laces now and find them much more comfortable.

Nice on the 10m Padams.

Nice progressive run home for me this evening. 10.4 in a 4 @ 7:09, 3 @ 6:34 and the last 3.4 @ 6:17. Good fun in the rain

19/10/2012 at 22:02

RS - I understand now, Gosport is 4 or 5 weeks away. I'm not tough enough to do 1/2 mara's 2 weeks in a row.

20/10/2012 at 07:38

Dachs / CW I'd echo Charlie's comments. I switched to a side-lace method because of a high foot arch and have never had a problem with that issue since. I lace mine across on the first eyes, then side up with just one other cross until the final eye. It looks weird and at first feels like your shoe might fall off - in fact at VLM2011 Marders asked me if I was going to do my shoes up. (I should have told him to concentrate on accurate pacing ). But it solved all the top of foot pain issue.

Going to do a long run in Alexandra Park today. Feel the mojo for running coming back ... 

p.s. Although I did leave a shoe behind on the race which forms my profile picture! It was a bog though.

Edited: 20/10/2012 at 07:40
20/10/2012 at 08:44

Best of luck to the Abo crew and the 50k duo.

20/10/2012 at 10:33

Ditto what Jools said, hope the long distance fellas have cracking runs.

Dachs.. I agree with what others have said.  Feet swell up during a run so slightly too tight laces tend to press on the top of the foot.

HR.. sorry to hear you've had a rough time but good to see you popping in again.

Managed to get my York BM entry in after about 30 mins of trying.  Being up at that hour I thought I might as well go along to the York Parkrun.  Lovely morning of sunshine & mist on the racecourse.  Had a strong run & after a 'kitchen sink' last k finally got the cigar with 19:51. 

Jolly happy with 2 mins improvement since June, going for a beerio & curry in Nosemi's locality tonight. 

20/10/2012 at 11:03

Well done Wardi on the sub-20 parkrun! And good luck indeed to those with other races big or small this weekend.

Tried some "speed" this morning as my lurgy is maybe a bit better, but barely bettered my HMP race pace last week in 4x0.5M (avg 5:37/M). Still, keeping the legs ticking over, and they probably appreciated an easy week anyway.

20/10/2012 at 11:26

Wardi - nice to see you getting some ROI, you deserve a bit of it.

CW - early days for fast running, so no suprise.

3hr bike done at this end

20/10/2012 at 11:30
Good luck to the weekend racers.
Wardi, cracking parkrun. Enjoy the beer n scoff. It took me 35 mins to get in, so hope to catch up in York.
20/10/2012 at 11:36

RJ/CC - thanks for comments re Munich/Frankfurt/Berlin.  Not sure there's a bad choice amongst the three.

Brian - good work mate.  Sub-80 at Brass Monkey?  I may try and keep up with you this time!

@marigold_bac seems to be retweeting while he runs...
"So Steve now clear in 3rd only 50 sec behind leader. Paul m clear in 2nd about 20 sec ahead. Very warm with strong easterly breeze."

...well into the second half of the race, so could be an exciting finish.  Kick it hard guys!

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