Sub 3

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10/11/2012 at 11:12

Good luck to any other racers this weekend (PP/CD). That's some discipline to do that TR, fair play. I'm guessing you listen to music??

Weather is nice and bright up here and wind seems to have dropped a fair bit. Feel like I'm in a bit of a lull at the moment, generally quite tired but it'll be good to race with a Harriers shirt for the first time and its a short jogg from the flat to the race where the park run goes from.

Main event is Toon v West Ham tomorrow, looking forward to that.

Edited: 10/11/2012 at 11:33
10/11/2012 at 12:12

Very impressive reps, SL!

Did my longish run today rather than tomorrow as I want to start tapering for yet another half next week, and preferred to run in the rain and save sunshine tomorrow for family time. Did 6x{1M hard, 1M easy} in the middle of 17M total @ 7:05/M avg; but instead of those alternating miles being 6:00 and 7:00, as I've manged in this session previously, they were 6:20 and 7:30, as my calves quickly let me know that I wasn't unaffected by last Sunday's race after all, and anyway I didn't want to kill myself instead of tapering. I resisted the urge to run a few extra miles for the same reason. That'll do though -- I'll do another series of increasingly short taper runs for the rest of the week.

Good luck to the racers, indeed...

10/11/2012 at 12:25


Yeah SL, those are some quick reps.....

10/11/2012 at 15:04

RS - I had the radio on today, but sometimes I cant even remember what I've listened to.

CW - you do make me smile at times.

10/11/2012 at 15:28

Good luck all racers this weekend.

As always good training being done by everyone, quality sessions from AL_P, SL and TR and nice long run CW.

Second half of the week has been good after a dodgy start to the week, took an easy day yesterday (I think you were all right, just needed to step off the gas for a bit), and got 12 very easy miles done today. Skipped the XC today as thought it may be better not to flog myself before my 25 miler tomorrow given how I felt earlier in the week!

10/11/2012 at 16:21

Nice repping, SL: good to see you returning to form.

Sounds like a tough psychological workout, TR, and pretty good aerobically, too.

You are racing a lot of HMs at the moment, CW - aiming for another podium finish?

Gwent League for me today; 21st so a few places down on the last one, but the general consensus was that a few more faster runners turned up at the front, so not reading too much into that.  Hopefully we packed well as a team (17th, 18th, 20th, 21st and 31st) - maybe even enough to take the match.

10/11/2012 at 19:45

Joolska - a decent day out then.

AW - so how is doing 12M today and 25M tomorrow stepping off the gas, given you were off it earlier in the week ? When was your last A race, and when is the next ?

10/11/2012 at 20:36

Like Jools I had an XC race today - North Mids League for me. Since I'm not in form (at all!) I decided to set out  slowly and try to pick it up later on. This lead to a much more enjoyable race than the last North Mids (where I got a stitch after the first lap) but did mean I finished lower down the field in 20th, compared to 16th last time. It was the most boring course known to runner - 3 fields x 2. No real hills, no ditches, no water. Just a bit of soggy ground. Unlike Jools my team did not pack well. In fact I was the only one to turn out for the ladies. Pathetic. Proper XC tomorrow at the East Mids league. 

A.W your idea of easing off soooo does not correlate with mine! 

10/11/2012 at 21:35

Well XC-d Jools & CC2 (and hope tomorrow's goes well).

TR -- you made me read back a bit -- that was a big session in your garage.

A.W. -- I've lost track of what you're training for -- the 25 suggests a marathon in a few weeks (or even something longer)?

Jools -- I probably won't be in the top 3 next week. It's a bigger race this time, the St Neots half marathon. I just scurried off to their website and they have ~1200 entries; I did come 4th a couple of years back there, but that was probably a bit of a fluke. (V40 prize wasn't a trophy I could remember the event by, nor cash or vouchers to spend, but a travel alarm clock which I didn't really need, a bit odd as a race prize... came in handy for an uncle-in-law's Xmas prezzy though). [Edit: just checked the entry list filtered by club, and there is a more recent V40 from my club who'll leave me for dead!]

Edited: 10/11/2012 at 21:42
11/11/2012 at 01:44
Good to finish reasonably near RaceJase and MTriton at Roundshaw Downs (Surrey League div 3) today. Starting to feel something like fitness coming back and looking forward to the winter programme.
11/11/2012 at 03:18
Morning! Athens marathon today.
Been too injured for any hopes of a good time, but as I shall turn 50 yrs old around the 8 mile point, I'm hoping the thrill of moving up an age category will spur me on to break 3 hours.
Perfect weather, but bastard hill in store. Paula's nemesis.
11/11/2012 at 08:18

Good luck, LD.  And happy birthday!

11/11/2012 at 09:19
CL - Unfortunately it was only me at xc yesterday. You'd be going well to get near racejase.

Same xc as CL. Was a nightmare to get to Croydon as too much traffic so was late and having no warm up started 1st lap conservatively. Had a decent run and even tried a hard 800m finish getting past young lad from my club then 100m to go he sprinted past and I couldn't match his speed. Unlikely to go up this season as struggled to get the numbers so our slower runners filling last spots.

PP and CD should be out on the bike by now. Bit chilly but at least it's dry for them, which is probably down to TR not being there
11/11/2012 at 09:40

Happy Birthday and Happy Marathon to Lord Dids!


11/11/2012 at 10:16

Good luck LD and as above: happy birthday.

Good long runs to all. Gorgeous day here in London. Made for a long run!

11/11/2012 at 10:16

JH1 - indeed, nice day here but a bit icy, hope the bike course wasnt icy for PP and CD.

Dids - smash it !

12M for me today which was a bit of a shock after a few weeks of ~5 or 6M runs and not having run at weekends since the Solent 1/2. My legs were moaning like it was the first 20M of a campaign !

11/11/2012 at 10:36

Dids - welcome to the V50 club ... what a lovely way to spend your birthday. A sub 3 at Athens would be fantastic - good luck with it

11/11/2012 at 12:15

15.5M for me to finish off the week on 50M.  Bit of a tough, muddy course, but have just rewarded myself with my favourite granola with chocolate milk.

11/11/2012 at 17:24
Oops, sorry JH, I do have a problem linking real people to their forum names. Still think I was going well to be near you!

Part of the reason for confusion was posting at near 2am after an indulgent evening, but the antedote to that was 16m at 7:02. Like Jools, brings up about 50m for the week. Starting to get in shape for marathon training.
11/11/2012 at 17:29

Good XC'ing all, nice to see CL popping in and at it again.

Happy birthday Dids.  That's got to be worth a slice of cake on the way round.

Aahh,I've warmed up now.  Today turned out rather nice in the end but my hands were complaining at 7am on my 8 mile warm-up ride to the start of the NADBuster.  I dread to think how it can be on a bad day.  Felt distinctly uncomfortable at the start and managed to completely forget to attach my ankle timing chip.  Oops.  Anyway, set off and settled into a group of three for most of the first 8-mile run, in 8/9/10th positions, reeled in one more before the start of the hill so came in 7th in transition, then promptly lost a few positions whilst adding chip-installation to all the other transition duties.  Didn't see much of the competition for most of the bike leg till near the end - which is all good cos it basically suggests strong cyclists who were a fair way back for the run and therefore very re-overtake-able.  Set off on the final run with quads beginning to stir, and two guys just in front of me, took one back fairly quickly but couldn't shrug off the other guy.  We caught a couple of guys to move up from 10/11th to 8/9th but he had stronger legs on the final climb.  So I'd settled for 9th but one more chap was struggling up the zig-zag, so managed to hold it together for 8th overall, 3rd V40 in a time of 2:51:34

Somehow they managed to extrapolate my splits from what other people were doing around me, so splits:
Run 1  46:06
T1  1:47
Bike  1:14:50
T2  0:59
Run 2  47:50

Pretty pleased with that, especially the relatively small fade on R2 considering how heavy my legs felt. Good to meet NADBuster stalwart CD againYes, I may be back but I'll need to have a serious conference with my hands about weather variability. 

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