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Happy birthday Dan. Know what you mean about the fast V40s - most of the people who beat me seem to be vets (not in XC though for some reason).

Sounds like lots of good training going on - lots of running commutes, which I guess is a positive consequence of the weather.

Happy birthday Dan. I will get the honour of being V45 next month

Very sore legs agter all this sliding about on the slush. Hoping to start getting some quicker runs in next week once the Tyne and Wear glacier  retreats.

 Charlie how are you legs feeling with the daily doubles. I tried it during the summer and I found that my legs started to tire and so quality was reduced a little. I hope to try this again for longer in the hope I can get my legs to adapt. 

Hotel for VLM booked and looks like I got the last room for the Saturday night at the glamorous Premier Inn Waterloo.  Still, it'll be easy to get to and from the race...

Bon Anniversaire Daniel

Joolska - if that's the one at County Hall then it's a great hotel. Rooms (especially the family ones) are so big I used to warm up in them before hitting the southbank.

It shares the building with the Hilton or Marriott or something, and you can mistakenly wander through an internal fire door and end up in there. Don't do it, or jealousy will ensue.

Neds Noodle Bar (opposite) is awesome, and you may occassionally see Pete Waterman in Starbucks next door, as his studio is on the same block .... if you fancy swapping the law for a disco hit and worldwide fame. 

She should be so lucky.


I'll see myself out.....

Charlie/Tim - 7.5 mile doubles are my staple running diet. Morning run is rarely any bother, evening run is just a mental thing of wanting to be home.

When I first did them (about 4 years ago), my legs used to be very stiff on the run home. Not now. I can sometimes do a decent tempo on the way home. If I'm doing a speed session or hill session I tend to just run the once in a day and may do it before going to work, or work from home.

If I decide to extend a run I prefer to extend the morning run. (There's a train stop half way which I sometimes use if I want to jack it in.)

When you do them enough you get to the point of not bothering to get changed (apart from a shirt) especially in winter and tend to have loads of spare shirts, towels and proper trousers/shoes at work so you rarely need a rucksack.

LS21 - boom boom!

DanA - happy b'day matey, I have a couple of bottles of beer that we can share later.

CW - My knees do get plenty of strengthening work, but (I think) it's a re-tweak of a previous medial ligament injury, so no amount of Nervous Nerysness is required.

6M again, slighty tight behind the knee (probably a bit of swelling from y'days run) and in the lower hammy. Need to decide wether to carry on regardless or get back on the bench now. With only just over 100M for January I'm a long way behind my usual ~250M for January, so I'd rather carry on than stop again. Will see how it is tomorrow.

Hold the front page.  Lord D in running at different times of the day and different paces SHOCKER (and even sees some adaptation as a result of doing it over an extended period)!

''Madcap, handkerchief wearing Didsbury resident Johnny Northerner has taken to a very unusual training regime greatly at odds with the latest fad plans promising the key to marathon running that lifestyle magazines and Z-list celbrities churn out in a completely clueless cascade of nonsense lapped up by halfwits as Gospel and a substitute for good honest graft.  When asked Johnny, over 45, said 'Yeah sometimes I run to work and sometimes I don't.  I even run home sometimes.  Everyone thinks I'm crazy but what they don't know is I'm daft as a bogbrush, me - I even vary the pace sometimes.  Crazy eh? I'm probably descended from t'whippet, lad.'  Nell McAndrew wasn't avaialble for comment but here's a picture of her with her norks out in a blatant attempt to grab your attention to another non-story.  Tracey Morris said 'Yeah I'd never run in my life, did 2 weeks under the watchful eye of Mr Northerner and then would have won the bastid Olympics if it hadn't been for the temperature getting above 15degrees for the last 15minutes...it cost me half an hour that did.''.

Can also corroborate the Peter Waterman story.  Sat at the next table to him just around the corner in Union Street once. I think he was impressed.  (CNBA to insert a lame (s)Hit Factory song title related pun - you can fill your own in.)

As you were.

Happy Birthday Dan! I'm only 4 years (and 4 days) behind you.

That sounds generally positive TR. Personally I'd carry on and see what happens.

Nice speed A.W.

Sounds like good sessions (especially in the conditions) from the BAC boys.

Nice treadie session Wardi.

Fingers crossed on the achilles LJ.

Tweaked my ankle slightly on the ice on Tuesday, so took off yesterday and this morning to treat it and give it a chance to recover. Will jog home this evening to test it, but it seems sufficiently improved.

Commutes. The bulk of my running is done as either commutes or on my wfh days. I was supposed to start using the track again on Fridays, but a change in bus schedules means I either skip the track and do my Friday session as a commute or don't get to see the kids. No choice of course, so commuting session it is.

It does leave me wondering if there's any benefit in renewing my club membership as I don't partake in team events and won't get to use the track, so the only benefits I can currently see are the coach to/from VLM and discounted race prices........

LD: they are different establishments; Waterloo is cheaper and (I am sure) less cheerful as a result.  But it had rooms available, which was a plus.

LS21: so awful, and yet I sniggered despite myself

....and not having to slum it with TR on the red start, TT.  Worth every penny if you ask me

I'll have you know that I'm the highlight of some folks day, just ak Nell !

an she wasnt even on my start, she searched for me !

TB -- my legs were a little fatigued yesterday, but more sprightly today -- avg 6:25/M on the way home (as I was late for supper, and it was mostly ice-free). Like LD I prefer to do any longer runs on the way in -- including a once-a-week 12-14M reps/tempo combo, in marathon training -- doing just a minimal 3 or 4M on the way home (quite feebly sometimes). Usually I don't do more than 3 days on the trot, so I'm entering unknown territory, but was pleased to go faster this evening. When I very first started doing running commutes, just running home again at the end of the day at all seemed tough, but one does get used to it OK.

I originally joined a club only for the vanity of the champs start -- but it's fun now to meet up with people at races and the Xmas dinner. I certainly don't get my money's worth out of the subscription, but then that's my choice (not bothering to go to the coached training sessions on the track etc).