Sub 3

For anyone trying to crack the 3 in any marathon anywhere in the world

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25/01/2013 at 08:32

DanA - hope birthday mate, hope you had a good one.

Glad to see TR off the bench hope the knee continues to improve, likewise with TT and his ankle

nice speed work from the BAC boys and CRAB.

AL_P - That is a decent work out.

Andy D  -Sounds like your legs are a little tired from the miles, as long as the effort was there then I wouldn;t worry about it.

Jools - hope the tightness clears up.

Trainers - Bostons, adios, mana and fastwitch, not necessarily in that order.

Track last night, went surprisingly well 

4K in 12.48, 3mins rest
2K in 6.18, 2mins rest
1K in 3.03, 1min rest then 6x200m in 31 with 200m jog.


25/01/2013 at 08:56
I quite like being a V35. I did a 20 mile race in 2011, and finished 2nd V35 getting ??20 for my efforts. That means I've now got total career earnings of ??20.

Some quick stuff going on last night. Was a rest day for me, cos I was knackered
25/01/2013 at 09:10

Clearly - hope you shake the lurgy off quick.

CW - a few grams saved off your shoes might help someone as lean as you, but its irrelevant for me as my legs have quite a few extra kgs already. If I was a proper racer then I'd invest in race shoes I guess, but only once I was all lean and mean.

SL - nice one

Going to try another 6M at lunch today (swimming has taken a back seat the last few days). Bagged a 90min turbo today (before the bike commute) so that I can chase a long run instead of a longer turbo/ride tomorrow too. I guess that long run will prove wether I'm properly off the bench or not. On the plus side, this little set back has fuelled a bit of desire to bag another sub3.

25/01/2013 at 09:43

TR - at least you've got the multi-sporter's x-training options to be getting on with to keep up aerobic fitness.  Hope you can start getting some decent miles on it though.

SL - very tasty!

I'm pretty sure I didn't make LS's rather excellent shoe list because I haven't run a marathon for over 3 years.  For the record the last two were in Nike Zoom Elite, which are now my everyday training shoes (and the first one in a pair of bricks). I've been a fan of Fastwitch for shorter road races but they made my arches complain a bit in my last HM, so I'll most likely be using my new favourite road racing shoes, Brooks Green Silence, which have the attractive qualities of being slightly lighter than the Fastwitch and yet feel more cushioned.  They've only gone up to 10 miles so far but I'll use them for everything leading up to VLM and report back.

LJ's prediction for my tempo run came true; after two loops of 3.33 miles each I was indeed right back where I'd started, having covered the first lap @ 5:42/m and the second @ 5:26/m. Pretty chuffed with that, given that I managed to keep HR down to a max of 166 (82% max) for the first lap and the second was basically running harder without killing myself.  Looking good for Chichester.

Edited: 25/01/2013 at 09:44
25/01/2013 at 09:59

Phil - no you were left out of the shoe list, but you'll be the star feature of the shorts list for those high-cut orange numbers. I think I've seen some of those in the 'gay interest' section of e-bay.

Not that I've ever looked at such stuff of course.

Anyway, the training stats are a bit dull. What we all want to know is what did you have for your tea? (or 'dinner' if you're a bit posh like)

25/01/2013 at 10:12

Pork chop, and a basmati brown rice stir-fry with black bean sauce, hot pepper sauce, spring onion, garlic, ginger, sugar snap peas, red pepper, green beans and kale.  Followed by a "custard style" banana yoghurt and a strong coffee.

Speaking of shorts, this is probably the biggest VLM decision still to be made.  The Brooks Green Silence are in this natty little colour combo:

 ...which go nicely with my high-cut red numbers, but I've also been offered the loan of some Union Jack shorts (2:39 at VLM last year!).  Hmmm...

25/01/2013 at 10:32

PP - running in another man's borrowed shorts?  You must know the answer to that one...

Thanks for the shoe recommendations everyone, especially LS's beautifully direct summary.  Thanks also to CRAB for the more general advice - however, had I written them down, I would have promptly lost the piece of paper, I expect.  I put this disorganisation and forgetfulness down to being one of those blue sky thinkers with little appetite for the minuteae of life, but it reality I may just be an idiot.

25/01/2013 at 10:42

Tripel Karmeliet from the Bosteels brewery (the same people that make Kwak).

Brooks Green Silence.

Pocket full of kryptonite.

25/01/2013 at 11:19

The blazer and tie combo on the lad in the front row trying not to shit himself is majestic.

PP - I'm sure you could get a union jack flag to match.

25/01/2013 at 12:09

I also notice Jimmy Savile trying to slip in in disguise towards the back.

25/01/2013 at 13:49

PP - you'll smoke it at Chichester, its a stacked race even though it clashes with Hants Road Race league. Its a bit more sheltered than the seafront races round here too. An envelope came last week which I assume contains my number, if it was this weekend I'd defo be a DNS, with another week I'm probably 80% DNS, I'lll try a few strides a few days before it and see.

5M bagged, didnt have much time today, have to be at the Rose Bowl at 6pm for the next 10 Fridays for (hopefully) some quite high level coaching for my youngest.

25/01/2013 at 14:37

Is that a young Fred West in the comedy blazer with a bowel condition (the lad not the blazer)?

Dids - not sure loveable is the image I was cultivating but I'll take it.  My first thought was 'We aim to please' but then I realised there aren't many things (outside LA's confession) further from the truth.

PP - soooo last year. BTW Still got a fetchng picture of you chasing that nutter around Picadilly at silly o'clock on top of my TV.  I think your goodself and SL both take the current 'Fck me they're on fire' award.  Off the hook.

ADVICE : next time you're in the middle of a tough session and the elastic is about to snap - just remember this.  It could always be worse...a lot worse.  There's a lift with an intermittent fault somewhere in the world and there is the possibility of a breakdown with three occupants - the bad news for you is the other two are Charlie Boy and Al_P.  Crikey those boys know how to rock a party ;o)

I'll pop back just to see what happens with Mr B's jacket.  Enthralling stuff.

As you were.

25/01/2013 at 15:03

PP - Glad you got back.  So starting at MP would make it about 5.42 pace at the moment, you'll have to order a new t-shirt from Dan...

SL - rapid reps.

Al_P - cracking run, you're in good shape at the moment.

Charlie - good mileage, hopefully you'll notice the difference when you're running quickly again.

If we're talking about trainers I got my new New Balance MT110s yesterday and did 15M in them in the snow and ice and they were much better than my Sauconys (and only cost £30 at the moment).  Speaking of doubles, I put off doing them for ages as I thought it would be too much but have been pleased with how it's gone since I started.  The 15 last night was actually a double, as to fit it in I had to do 8M, go home and cook Mrs LJ's tea then nip out for another 7M an hour after I'd finished the first.  6M slow this morning.

25/01/2013 at 16:10

How's the weight loss coming along MtR?

LD - my biggest issue on the club front is at some stage somebody invariably has a go at me for not taking part in team events. In fact it has been quite a while since I've had to listen to it now, so I'm sure somebody will oblige soon. That picture is just too funny!

Clearly - I don't really have a plan as such. I had a vague idea of what and when, but I always invariably end up going with what I feel I need at a given moment in time. Having said that, the ideal is that I will generally be doing more HM/10k pace reps, with some more specific long runs/sessions closer to M-day.

SL and PP - what CRAB said. You're both really ripping it up at the moment. I suspect I'll be trying to keep both of ye in sight coming down the Mall at this rate of going.

Good luck for the longer run tomorrow TR. I done similar today, but was never really on the bench - more just being cautious as I've learned what I can run through, and what's best to give a bit of rest to at this stage. I'm also becoming a bit of a master at coming at marathons from a long way back. Undecided if it's a good thing or not. There are definite pros to it, especially if it's the only race you're interested in. Good luck to junior for the coaching.

PP - I'm also a fan of the Brooks Green Silence, but won't be wearing that colour combo for obvious reasons

Trainers: at the moment I've got Brooks Green Silence, Asics Hyperspeed, and Brooks t7. The first are my 'heavy' pair which get used for the majority of my slower running, the Hyperspeed I wear when I want a softer ride than the t7 for various reasons. The t7 are my racing pair, so I have an older pair that I do some/most of my quicker running in.

Car trouble this morning meant I had to wait for Mr AA to come fix it, and also resulted in me having to work from home, so took advantage of the situation and bagged 24m at lunchtime in a 5m easy, 10m steady (6:38), 5m @ '1/2' effort* (6:18), 4m easy style. Felt good and fluid despite the icy wind.

* basically current MP + 20-30s.

25/01/2013 at 16:56

Stacked fields for London then!

Will be interesting to see what Tirunesh Dibaba does on her debut. Helen Clitheroe also to debut.

25/01/2013 at 18:41

my school photo reminds me that Monty did not get full school colours (the  horrific blazer and tie combo) despite having made it to the final of the Scottish Boys golf tourney.

In fact, Monty was considered to have let the school down by giving up his place in the cricket team to concentrate on golf, and got a lot of grief.

My dad, who loves writing letters of complaint, let the school know of his sense of injustice, and also felt I deserved colours for either XC or golf (our golf team was feckin unbeatable), and that their obsession with rugby and cricket was unhealthy. 

The reply he got, told him bluntly that they thought he was mentally unstable.

25/01/2013 at 18:56

Fearing that my recent fatigue was due to not eating enough, Last night I went for the "german carbo load" - that was a load of pasta, chocolate and muesli washed down with 6 pints of Erdinger (and a 2am flurry of abusive tweets that I had to delete today). 

After my head had cleared this morning I ran the treadmill run of my life.... 5 miles at about 6 min/mile. I was flying, but with ease.

Then, went to a funeral this afternoon (one of those catholic ones that goes on for hours with lots of incense, wine tasting and how great some latter day street magician was). I was cold in the church wrapped in my coat and gloves and feckin shivering uncontrollably outside. 

Starting to suspect I need to be eating more. And that's a first.

25/01/2013 at 19:06

Ah good to see some hideous LGS full colours on display there Lord Didsbury. Truly the decade that fashion forgot , taken to a brutal extreme with those riculous blazers. Brings back a few memories...

25/01/2013 at 19:24

Only 365 days until I too become a V35. 

25/01/2013 at 20:03
Happy Birthday!!
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