Sub 3

For anyone trying to crack the 3 in any marathon anywhere in the world

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04/02/2013 at 20:36
That is pitiful. How are you ever going to run a sub-3 Marathon with that kind of training?
04/02/2013 at 21:01

Home Run - Lady D just given me your book which she got from the library. 

04/02/2013 at 21:21

LS21 - That session will be a staggering 7min of effort - standard marathon training in anyones book surely?

04/02/2013 at 21:29

Well seeing as you can probably do almost 2 miles in 7 minutes I suppose I'll let you off

04/02/2013 at 21:31

Oh and Dids - library? Get to Waterstones and buy a copy man. HR has got another vodka bucket to buy at the weekend.

04/02/2013 at 22:57
What about supporting local public sector workers?
05/02/2013 at 04:53

LS21 haha it did cross my mind!! But at least the man is reading it, and libraries are good. Can't really say hope you 'enjoy' it LD because that doesn't seem quite appropriate but hope you find it a reasonable read.

Flying back to UK tomorrow. Might be mad but there's some work to be done and I've outstayed my welcome here now. I'm really looking forward to running in English conditions actually. Wonder how long that will last.



05/02/2013 at 08:06

HR - I'd give it one run until you want to be back in Thailand! (Actually, probably more like half a run.)

Swam last night for the first time since November - I was pitiful. Not sure I would even make it round an IM swim at the moment, let alone get under the hour. At least it's given me a bit of motivation! 4M easy run as well, on the way to the pool.

05/02/2013 at 09:27

PP & Marigold - Thanks for the advice/diagnosis, think I'll do 2 of the 3 intervals tonight and cruise the third.

TR - Good to hear you're getting back into the swing of things

05/02/2013 at 10:15

Al_P - cheers

Padams - how about a swimming race before you get too good again ?

Paid for the efforts of the last few days with a weary turbo this morning, felt pretty ropey so just made it a steady 60mins. Cricket club meeting last night and I volountered to be U13 manager (both teams) so I can look after the interests of all of my last yrs U11s, U13 matches are Sunday mornings though so that will mean a change of training times and only the odd race.

05/02/2013 at 12:47

LD Are you from Yorkshire originally. So glad we kicked you Mancs out of Lancashire, you gave us a bad name.

HR - I just purchased the Kindle version, I am on holiday in a couple of weeks and will look forward to reading this.

Great running/racing from everyone again, Too many to list but some great PBs and wins!

Talking of running faster. I have a 10 miler tonight with 5 miles at HM pace. Starting to test if my goal for sub 02:50 is reallistic, so nervious about the session tonight. Just started snowing in my lunch break(typical), my speed session could end up being another slow slog looking like the michelin man!

05/02/2013 at 13:15

Very decent of you Tim! Thank you. I'm very touched by you sub-3ers reading my book. If any of you want signed copies (of the paperback) I could sort some after Abingdon or London - I'll almost certainly go to shout support at VLM and in the pub after if minds and bodies aren't elsewhere!

Boiling today here. GF says it's going to be a shock to my system, as per Padams your comment.

Going to try and kick my body into English time by staying up tonight and running at 4 am before I hope to sleep on the 6am bus to Bangkok airport. That's the theory.

Edited: 05/02/2013 at 13:16
05/02/2013 at 13:30

Timothy - that's a bit harsh. I'm actually from Accrington (who? ....) but grew up in Leeds. Sadly I think that there's a bit of a northern north/south divide going on these days, with a line drawn just to the north of the centre of Manchester. Anything to the south and into Cheshire is generally lively or well-healed, whilst the north and Lancashire is drab, poor and full of BNP and other nastiness. Lancs could have done with holding onto Manchester in my opinion, because even though Manchester is not all it's cracked up to be, without it it feels like a barren wasteland.

I can't stand that drive up the M66 to see my parents - dark satanic mills etc. Chilling.

I've never yet done a training tempo run which has ever felt as comfortable as a race. If you find it hard I wouldn't worry in the slightest.

05/02/2013 at 13:37

HR - I'm generally a slow and easily distracted reader, and fall asleep after a page or two. but I got through a good 20 pages of your book last night, and jolly good it is too. However, I did read an Amazon review (which are almostly universally 5* glowing) that complained that the proof reader was rubbish and that it said "of" instead of "off" a lot.

Really wish I'd not read that as consequentally I find myself constantly on the lookout for these and other minor blunders. (Not found any yet). It's a bit like watching Ben Hur and looking for Romans wearing wristwatches.

05/02/2013 at 13:57

LD that review about the proofing on 'of' / 'off' annoyed me and I did the normally unpardonable of replying to challenge him to cite me examples. I'm normally really careful and I am extremely surprised by his comments. My PhD contained two typos and that was without any proof readers. I'm wondering if something went awry at the type setting stage or in the kindle version but it's very peculiar. He hasn't actually responded to the challenge so I'm left wondering if it's untrue.

Hope you can put that behind you as the story, perhaps, takes hold. 

05/02/2013 at 14:03

oops - overtraining - slight tenderness on inside (and under) of knees - very slight (nothing most of the time) but warning sign so swam instead today as precaution, think I'll stick to recovery run tomorrow, then get back on schedule. Anyone had similar?

I've had ITBS twice before so relieved it isn't that (outside of knee). Was hard not to run regardless and I did waiver, but actually good to get in first swim since November.

05/02/2013 at 14:10

TR - I'll give you a virtual 1500m race at the weekend if you want!

HR - I find on the Kindle there are some funny typos that I assume are not in the hard copies, so it might be that rather than actual typos.

I love my Kindle, but the book I am currently reading (Life of Pi) highlighted the problem that you don't know how long it's going to be until you start reading. I haven't looked for it in the shops but it must be massive, or I've suddenly become really slow at reading!

Cheerful Dave    pirate
05/02/2013 at 14:11

I'm always wary of reviews on Amazon, tripadvisor and the like.  No way of knowing whether the good ones are by the author's mum, or if the bad ones have some other grudge to bear or are by competitors.

Unlike washing machine reviews on here, obviously, which are universally accepted as arbiters of good taste.

Back to running though.  Been a bit under the weather the last couple of days so just some nice easy running.  Lovely & fresh out today, even some sunshine.  Picked off a couple of strava CRs as well, which is always a bonus.

05/02/2013 at 14:19

Padams: Life of Pi isn't that long a book as I remember.

HR: I read your book on my Kindle when it came out - very good, only slightly spoiled by the digression into marathon running. 

Much like this thread really.

05/02/2013 at 14:25
Padams wrote (see)
I love my Kindle, but the book I am currently reading (Life of Pi) highlighted the problem that you don't know how long it's going to be until you start reading. I haven't looked for it in the shops but it must be massive, or I've suddenly become really slow at reading!

It's not very long.  It just seems like it because it runs out of things to say about a third of the way through.

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