For anyone trying to crack the 3 in any marathon anywhere in the world
SL: wow. I thought I was the thread's poorest navigator, but it turns out you are even worse than me. I've turned an 18 miler into a 21, but never a 4 into more than 5 or 6. Kudos.
I will bring my duffel coat and wellies for my treadmill session tomorrow- might as well be prepared. http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/25/cold-weather-stay-april-forecasters
OS - oh great ! thanks for that, I was trying to console myself that surely this must be the last week of bike or run in the cold !
5M, 1.75k, 5M
Going looking for another block of ~6:40s in a midweeker tomorrow.
It doesn't snow in that there London though, does it?
OS - I'm not worried about VLM weather, you cant control the uncontrollable, its always warm regardless of whatever they predict anyway, I'm just pissed off at the prospect of another few weeks of fckn cold or wet bike or run commutes ! Might have to get myself a batmoblie again !
Very true LD, hadn't thought about it like that. Good tip too.
Hi all, I've been lurking for a while and thought it about time I pop in. Running Manchester as my first marathon at the end of April. Should have been doing London but had to change due to family circumstances. Undecided on what pace to run at yet as I haven't raced more than 10k for nearly 12 months but should be comfortably sub 3.
A cold steady 8 miles around Leeds tonight after a 59:xx 10m yesterday evening.
TR / DanA haha it's true. The moment they 'moved us slowly forward' from Pen 1 I was out like a hare, slipping to the right and past most of the GFA's up to Marders' 2.45 lollipop for the start. It was only then things started to go wrong as I foolishly thought Marders knew what steady pacing meant (only kidding - you're a great bloke and it wasn't easy with the clock errors). Seriously though everything was so chocca that about 4 miles in I decided to give up trying to follow his lollipop and ran my own race. Having started from pen 3 the mass start in 2009 it's not easy to get any kind of rhythm for the first 5 or 6 miles.
Everyone says the same thing: it doesn't really matter, and I think it's true. What really counts are miles 20-26 not 1-6. It's probably better to keep a steady pace and then slowly pick up. If I do VLM2014 off my GFA I'm going to stick to my own pacing along those grounds. Dan I'm putting all that for any others who may be reading this and running off a mass start, as I know you will know all the above, and some.
Disgusting horrible bleak run across the frozen tundra of north London. I hate this weather with a passion.
Welcome jonny - yep, looking good for a sub-3 based on that info. Good luck!
I can now confirm I've really had enough of the snow and ice now. Last night's run was about 20+ laps of a 600m loop in the town centre, as it was the only place that was ice-free, lit and had no traffic. The pavements here are totally unrunnable - just sheet ice. The roads are ok but you're running actually ON the road, so not great at night time. I may be off to see Mr Mill again later today. Roll on Summer!
JH1 -nice to see you, I noted your Fleet 1/2.
15M in a 1 at 8:02, 10 av 6:36 (5 in 32:58, 5 in 33:02), 4 more up and over the hil in to here. So 10 av 6:36, compared to the 6:15 I did it at last VLM campaign. Last years was a 10 pretty much as hard as I could run it and it smoked me, todays was a steady run. But ~20sec/mile is a big difference. Still, take away all of todays layers and luggage and I should keep the right side of 20min every 3M which will get me under 2:55 (6:40 pace). I'm on for about 275M in March too, which will be my biggest month ever, and me knee is still improving, so I'm pretty pleased with where I've got to considering where I was in January (limping along and slow).
quad DOMS since yesterday afternoon - no surprise after sprinting downhill for two miles, did easy 5m yesterday and reluctant to take a rest day (rested last Fri + Sat) ... thinking of 5-8m today about MP+40s.
Is it considered okay to run with DOMS?
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