Sub 3

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MtR
19/04/2013 at 11:44
Agree with Marigold:

Current lap pace gives you the guide for the pace since you last went past a mile marker.

I also use currently lap HR rather than just HR to smooth the data in case I slow down in response to an HR blip due to running too close to Nell or something.

Average lap time with manual laps.

The 4th field is usually total time, but at London it doesn't really matter due to the clocks at every mile, but one year these were out due to Red start starting 20 seconds late.
19/04/2013 at 11:51

Hmm, yes not sure what happened with that duplicate post, most annoying.

Apol's

19/04/2013 at 11:57

not wearing HRM, worried it could be an unnecessary distraction for me, maybe next time. Will be displaying Lap Pace, Avg Pace and Total Time. Bezel locked (405).

Don't think I'll be pressing any buttons either, just accept there will be slight inaccuracies, mile markers hopefully help me spot them. Will look for lines on the road this time as last time I looked for the gateway things but I'm sure one of them wasn't correct.

19/04/2013 at 12:10

Been reading back over these pages, and best of luck to you all on Sunday, especially those of you struggling to make it to the start in good health.

Not taking part this year despite getting GFA time in Milton Keynes last year. Being a numpty i agreed to having our wedding in February, putting any sensible training plan out the window. Must be my lack of qualifications, especially by this threads standards!

19/04/2013 at 12:24

ON7 - Wow, that must have been a helluva wedding!

TT - no.  Wrong again.  Not sure how many more clues you want.  Maybe just chuck me on ignore like most poeple do.  You'll life'll be better for it ;o)

I met Ronnie Preston in the early 80s but we're getting a little tenuous now.  Never played golf with him though.

As you were.


19/04/2013 at 12:27

Yeah, sorry it's the current lap pace .... it's the one which gets progressively more accurate at the mile progresses. 

19/04/2013 at 12:29

I've just started carb loading.  Also, my sister-in-law's sister is Colin Montgomery's nanny. I think.

19/04/2013 at 12:31

Simonx9 -- there's no harm in fibre from a carbo-loading point of view, but I try to avoid having my lower intenstine full of indigestible stuff on race day as it's one run where I can't press "pause" if I need a pit stop... Oh and the average pace time and manual button press thing works really well in London, where GPS reception is a bit crazy in places -- you can't trust the average GPS pace. And I wish the road markings for the miles were more obvious, as I tend to end up with a mixture of road marks when I see them or balloon arches when I don't.

TT -- cripes, where did that come from?

SL -- uh-oh, are you still "go"? (Has another squirt of Vicks First Defence immediately)

Carbo-loading furiously today. Taper runs have been going to plan, with just 1M @ 5:45/M this morning with a warm up and return to base.

I'm also following the Boston developments avidly; the question is, will the culprits be the kind of outfit that might strike again, esp in the UK? If not, then things may be more relaxed security-wise on Sunday, with a lower probability of bomb scare disruptions. But who knows.

19/04/2013 at 12:36

I thought Colin Montgomery was Mrs Doubtfire?

I've abandoned all work and am just counting down the hours until I go to London, can't bleeding wait now.

It's ON.

 

edit: CW - Never in doubt mate, just normal taper worries.

Edited: 19/04/2013 at 12:36
19/04/2013 at 12:36

Simonx9 - "Ave Pace" ..... oh, schoolboy error there fella. The problem is twofold:

1. your garmin will not match the mile markers - so you'll have a frustrating difference that will play havoc with your already frazzled brain

2. when go go round Canary Wharf and the anti-terrorist GPS scrambler/tall buildings/under flyer bits suddenly tell you you've run half a mile short/long, you will be cussing.

Just set it to ave lap time and click every mile. Doesn't matter if your clicking is accurate.

Example - you run the first mile in 6:30 but click 10 secs too late, you run the second mile in 6:20 and click 10 secs too early, you forget to click at your 3rd mile of 6:30, but when you reach mile 4 (a 6:40 mile) you click twice. result - a perfect average of 6:30 will be showing.

If your Garmin shows you've run 4.1 miles, YOUR average will be telling you your pace is 6:20! and you wouldn't like that now would you?

19/04/2013 at 12:48

Or wear a £10 stopwatch showing total time (or just use the clocks on the course). Oh no, let's not start this again...

ON7 - my wife and I raced an Ironman a few weeks before our wedding. Don't really understand when people on TV saying, "I'm getting married in months, so don't really have any time for socialising/hobbies etc. at the moment." Maybe we didn't try hard enough!

I've never heard of most of these name-drops, and PP - most people could probably link to Colin Montgomerie through 3 other people (not that I have a better one)!

TR
19/04/2013 at 12:52

what if there is an incident and the police jam all comms, will that shut down Garmins as well as phones ? could be a lot of folks running data less.

not sure how TT came up with TT from those clips, but CRaB is a bit cryptic for me too at times, unless he's spelling out the obvious to myself.

havnt been carbing up much, but havnt had a beer all week, so we'll call that hydrating !

 

19/04/2013 at 12:52

CRAB - your use of the '=' sign after my name confused me (easy I know), so I just assumed it was me rather than watch the clips. I'll just give up guessing now before my brain goes the way of my back and crumbles

RS78 - cheers. I'd settle for no pain right now. I'm hoping it will settle down enough to jog in a few days and if I can at least do that while it's getting sorted out initially it would be something. Given the current pain, and lack of lift in my right leg I suspect I probably pinched a nerve, which should at least settle reasonably quickly.

Cheers PP.

CW - I presume you mean the more recent degradation, rather than the back issues generally, I suspect it's down to doing too much to try help it now that I know what the problem is (I've been using the camber on roads to try to offset the leg length issue, and doing a lot of stretching). Too much too soon. Not patient enough. Much like my running at times I guess

OS
19/04/2013 at 12:57

Are Garmins dirupted by shrapnel?

Just did last outing.  Fast first mile, flat out 1K, then jog home for a 5k total.  Then a gentle 60 min gym session.  Felt ok, and no bits broke.  Now energy conservation and eating. 

OS
19/04/2013 at 12:58

Padams running before the wedding was no problem, had a grat run at the Wokingham half 2 weeks before. However marathon training whilst on honeymoon was not an option, so I was told anyway!

i'm with LD on the importance of manual lapping

19/04/2013 at 13:00
Lord Didsbury wrote (see)

Simonx9 - "Ave Pace" ..... oh, schoolboy error there fella. The problem is twofold:

1. your garmin will not match the mile markers - so you'll have a frustrating difference that will play havoc with your already frazzled brain

2. when go go round Canary Wharf and the anti-terrorist GPS scrambler/tall buildings/under flyer bits suddenly tell you you've run half a mile short/long, you will be cussing.

Just set it to ave lap time and click every mile. Doesn't matter if your clicking is accurate.

Example - you run the first mile in 6:30 but click 10 secs too late, you run the second mile in 6:20 and click 10 secs too early, you forget to click at your 3rd mile of 6:30, but when you reach mile 4 (a 6:40 mile) you click twice. result - a perfect average of 6:30 will be showing.

If your Garmin shows you've run 4.1 miles, YOUR average will be telling you your pace is 6:20! and you wouldn't like that now would you?

hmm, maybe I'd better look how to operate this thing properly! Do you set lap distance to something large? I've not really used the manual lap feature before.

19/04/2013 at 13:06

ON7 - Couldn't you just stay fit by "cross training"?   - 

19/04/2013 at 13:09

Just read Britain's No 1 Marathon Choker's famous last words (ie, Overall's final blog before he loses the UK crown from his prematurely balding pate).

After a load of waffle about Boston and his profound thoughts (think it's a cut and paste job from his 12 year old sister's diary), he get's to the important bit: "I have to be honest and say I am not quite where I want to be fitness wise..."

At this point, all the negativity pours out of him, through his badly disguised pretend-to-be-upbeat sentences. He's scared. He know's he's had his chips. He knows there's a magnificent be-quiffed northern athlete, pure of spirit and intent, that is primed to kick his underachieving ass.

I might send him a tweet to invite him for a commiseration drink in the Red Lion, but not sure I can wait around that long for him afterwards.

19/04/2013 at 13:13

simonx9 - don't set any lap distance you chump. Just have the field displayed. then you just press the lap button manually as you pass each mile marker. The garmin just divides total time run by number of times you've clicked the lap button.

Simple, but deadly ..... like my victory over Overall.

19/04/2013 at 13:17

turn off Auto Lap?

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