For anyone trying to crack the 3 in any marathon anywhere in the world
Cheers TR. I'll get some and give it a go. Very nice with the prize!
Nice repping by the sounds of it Padams.
That is funny Dan. It will be interesting to see how JD progresses and how far he can go. He is obviously very talented!
Bad luck Al_P. Take your time.
'CRAB, as you must be aware from his bitter and antagonistic rant, is a southern jessie consumed by jealousy by a noble northern godlike athlete (me) who is currently setting the world alight in a way he can only dream of.'
Yes smashing the 3hour barrier by nearly a full half a minute is indeed something I only ever dream of and then I wake up and fortunately I'm not that sh!te.
As you were.
TT -- it's only the second time I've tried the hot melt glue (from Maplin). First time was to try and put studs back on some XTalons (dismal failure -- fell off again). But this time it has stuck, but immediately looks a bit worn. So the jury is still out. But like you, I get just one place where the soles get badly worn, and it seems wasteful to bin the whole shoe just for that. I'm copying my dear departed eccentric mother -- worryingly I do so more and more with time, it seems...
TR -- nice one on the prize voucher.
Bit of a relapse I fear. I was feeling quite cocky about my week off having sorted me out, and running was fine really on Tues until I trod hard on a stone right near the end. But yesterday I noticed a tight piriformis again in about 5 hours of driving, and my foot started twinging a bit in the night. Did a minimal run to work this morning but it's definitely dodgy again. I don't know whether to try some more days off or what. I suspect there may be some connection between my piriformis, back of thigh and sore foot (all on the sciatic nerve), though the annoying foot thing is localised to a specific spot.
Went to my club AGM yesterday -- they get some attendance for the more dreary parts of the proceedings by giving out annual trophies at the end, and I was there to pick up the marathon one this year. But there was a nice little interview of a young lad who's had GB appearances.
TR - top prize-bagging. I haven't won that much since April!
CW - That all sounds annoyingly frustrating. At least you've got a nice trophy to buff.
A mixed bag here. I'm usually over a cold well before ten days but this one's still working its way through different stages. Don't feel too bad but have started coughing up minor gunk, so I've binned the rowing session today. Yesterday I managed an easy double (if that's not an oxymoron) of a 45 mins steady row and a 7 mile evening run, during which my legs felt very strong (only the second run in over a week) and my foot felt better than it has done for weeks.
In between these sessions I saw the fizz again, who was pleased with the foot progress - my fatty pads haven't magically grown back but the rest has done the heel some good and my stretching/massage has loosened things up nicely. ("Ah yes, you're the guy with the massive calves...") So he's happy for me to start increasing the intensity, and has specifically booked me in to see again after a XC race in two weeks (Southern counties Vets) to see how my foot likes the country.
Wardi - thought it would be blue, when I was on there, there were lots of club places there too.
Al_P - that was a quick recovery
CW - either 1) stop again 2) something like 4M every day, day after day to see if it injury proofs you or 3) go and get a proper diagnosis and rehab plan instead of googling whats wrong...............3 sounds best.
PP - did you win a VLM AG prize then ?
60min turbo and a 5M run for me today
TR - AG? Nah, did you miss the bit about me being a national champion? Kent AC, first team, me third scorer behind a couple of 2:17 runners! £233.33 each. Ch-ching!
PP - ah yes, I remember now, I thought you won an AG prize for a while there.
Would definitely be a nice aim for future VLMs. 8th V40 this year and hopefully haven't peaked yet!
Nice one PP! ..& best of luck with the cold cure & the continued foot recovery.
Cripes Charlie, you seem to get more niggles during downtime than when you're in full bore training! I had piriformis trouble on and off a couple of years ago but it gradually disappeared in it's own.
Good mixed doubles from TR & PP.
Bad luck Al P, hope you can get back to it soonish.
Blimey Dids, if you're thinking of coming all the way to York to take on this even older codger CRAB must have you quaking in your Lawrence Ripples already! You're on fella, after all I know the course better than you do!
10m today inc 7 x 1k @ av 6:18 pace with 500m recoveries.
Just booked my VLM room, Premier Inn at Southwark Borough Market. Close to London Bridge station so handy for a ride to the start.
Wardi - this is all depending on Er Indoors ability and desire to get out of bed early on saturday. At the moment, she's not keen - but maybe if you send me a good photograph of you in your smoking jacket?
Otherwise, it'll be a midday arrival there, in the company of my daughter blathering on about the wonder of bloody rowing, before going on a wild night out with the "lads" in .....yes.....the epicentre of cool and excitement.....Harrogate. Woopydoopydah!
Also Wardi, we stayed there once (well, a few times actually) in that Travel Inn, but this time the air-con had bust and it was so hot in the room that my dairy milk completely melted.
Lenny Henry would not have looked so smug in that room I can tell you.
Not impressed with my amazing feat of running 10 miles with legs more useless than Stephen Hawking's and still breaking 3 hours then Crab?
Oh well, maybe, I should have bottled out like your fellow southern soft ballet dancers?
Read my lips - I will not be limping in around 3 hours in April mate, I will be fucking leaving Kenyans in my wake. I won't be leaving you in my wake, cos you won't ever be in my wake. In fact, if my wake had a wake you wouldn't even be in that.
PhilPub - that ribbon will go nicely with your shots.
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Padams: I saw him in Frankfurt and he hadn't had the best few weeks going into the race.
Padams: I saw him in Frankfurt and he hadn't had the best few weeks going into the race.
Gorgeously restrained of you Jools One tough Kiwi.Wardi long time no chat. Nice reps there. And well done on the hotel. I'll be in Guildford so I might train in from there (40 mins to Waterloo) on the grounds that my own bed is better. Not sure. You will have the fabulous Borough Market for some serious post-race nosh if you fancy it.TR that's superb re. the 1st prize. Thoroughly deserved. Damned brilliant: well done buddy.Luke - nice work. Good mileage and speed combinations.Dachs - your Barcelona anecdote makes it sound as if Mr Overall might be back in a bit of form?Bufo and Toro - nice reps. TR too on yours.Padams - another doing great rep sessions.Al_P Oh no. At least you've got a diagnosis and you seem to be on the way to recovery.CW I always had you down as an injury-free runner but as PP says, well done on the trophy. I'm with you on the +ve split issue. The feeling of merely hanging on after mile 20 isn't pleasant.PP sounds like a bad cold and maybe the ease back has done you good by the sounds of the stronger run. LD will be pleased you returned to the fizz to make sure. That's awesome from UKAA. 8th V40: top work. My big aim from Feb is to try and get into top 10 V50. Probably unlikely.I'm in the midst of a house move this week but am still doing tomorrow's 10k @ Battersea. Scaled back the training yesterday and today so will see what happens. Not feeling confident of getting anywhere close to the 36' right now.
Simply abiding by netiquette - Marders doesn't really post on the thread any more so it's not my information to share.
PP -- v. impressive letter and medal there. They'd definitely go on the wall in my downstairs loo trophy grotto if I could only match your success!
Wardi/TR -- last night I had a touch of gripes on the outside of my lower leg too. And it got worse after a day of driving and sitting on conference chairs. So I think it could well not really be a running problem per se at all, though maybe running prolongs it. With my geeky science background, I take some pleasure in perhaps finding a grand unified explanation -- looking back, the foot trouble appeared simultaneously with piriformis tightness/back of thigh troub. My sis (GP) also said sciatica tends to just go slowly with time. Anyway, day off today (though it's feeling better already).
And I'm posting uncharacteristically before work because I just had to share this gem with anyone who's done or thought about doing the Bob Graham Round, from the fell runner's forum -- "if Hitler did the BGR..." -- and I'm guilty of several charges it levels:
CW - Haha, great Hilter clip
Wardi - Nice set of 'k reps, the proprietor (my brother) of my usual digs for the VLM weekend has moved, but thankfully he's even closer to the tube in Ealing now shame they did want a place a bit nearer to Blackheath, but not moaning for the price ....
26M on the bike this morning to work, found a much better route across the Forest which involves no roads routinely used by heavy goods vehicles, so it was a much more pleasant ride than previous commutes! Also I've finally finished a Frankfurt highlights vid, a link to it can be found on my blog, not the most riveting thing to watch, but I think it gives a nice impression of the race for those here planning to go for the first time next year.
I read a bit on twitter about Marders "situation" and was surprised he even bothered trying to run in Frankfurt...fair effort that, and then to do the time he did a few weeks later was v impressive. But come on HR you can't go handing out plaudits like that willy nilly, especially now he is not even a kiwi anymore. It's hardly in the realms of Dids amazing feat of running 10 miles with legs more useless than Stephen Hawking's and still breaking 3 hours, (especially now he is not even a kiwi anymore).
Nor is it quite up there with this tough kiwi.
"Shelford made his Test debut for the All Blacks later that year against France in a 19–7 victory in Toulouse, and then was a notable victim of the infamous "Battle of Nantes" in the second Test. Roughly 20 minutes into the match, he was caught at the bottom of a rather aggressive ruck, and an errant French boot found its way into Shelford's groin, somehow ripping his scrotum and leaving one testicle hanging free. He also lost four teeth in the process. Incredibly, after discovering the injury to his scrotum, he calmly asked the physio to stitch up the tear and returned to the field before a blow to his head left him concussed.
So is the Dids v CRAB smackdown going to be WAVA rated, surely someones got a bit of an age advantage judging by the bands CRAB likes/hangs out with?
still suffering at this end with niggly injuries (opposite (Posterior tendon) one to Al_P, caused i think by trying to run more on my mid foot/toes to prectect my dicky knee and then upping the miles too soon i guess). But my slipped disc and nerve damage is slowly coming right (prob a bit like the sciatica comment from your doc CW). Starting to think i might be able to run a bit next year, here's hoping. Just need a patient build up again....so i'm on the day on day off 20 min jogs again for a while until i can do more. Vague thoughts of Edinburgh, if only because if i leave it any later, i won't make London marathon again until 2016!! Can't bring myself to actualyl enter it though given my track record of DNS. e.g.
So another 10km entered and not raced is about to pass this weekend, and then probably another one in 2 weeks.
Nice training from lots of the usual folks. Congrats on the prize TR. Padams will be nice to se what you can do if you have another proper crack at a fast road marathon. Good luck weekend racers.
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