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Cold again here, so decided against battling the slippy roads and went for a shortish one over Embsay Crag. Lovely and clear, so took the camera (just for Keir!). This is my objective, the towering leviathan that broods over the village:
Keir wrote (see)RJ, what events have you got coming up over the next few months?Not sure yet. My aim for today is to plan the next 4 and a bit months training and that will include picking the races I intend to do.So far I am booked in for the Brass Monkey Half in January but may not do it as it'll mean a trek up north and I'm already going back home to Harroagte for Christmas. I will probably do Paddock Wood half as my MP decider (within a 22) at the end of March though. And possibly Sidcup 10. I also need to find a 20 +race, so I can do 26.2 in training (it'll be a slow one though).Good graphage SBD. I have recreated the same thing.
RJ, what events have you got coming up over the next few months?
Not sure yet. My aim for today is to plan the next 4 and a bit months training and that will include picking the races I intend to do.
So far I am booked in for the Brass Monkey Half in January but may not do it as it'll mean a trek up north and I'm already going back home to Harroagte for Christmas.
I will probably do Paddock Wood half as my MP decider (within a 22) at the end of March though. And possibly Sidcup 10. I also need to find a 20 +race, so I can do 26.2 in training (it'll be a slow one though).
Good graphage SBD. I have recreated the same thing.
What this shows is that the 'quickest week' was still over 60secs slower than what MP ultimately was.The bars are weekly mileage (with totals on the left y axis) and the blue line is avge pace.
Nice running from all of you. I'm doing naff all to be frank, I tried to get back into it on Monday with a 6 miler which was fine, but then the snow really did me in for the rest of the week and CBA came calling. This is all to change tomorrow, with the snow disappearing I really have no excuse and 19 weeks is plenty to get me into a good position come 17th April. I'll be aiming for roughly 50 this week.
Interesting to see your Abingdon data RJ - remarkably similar in structure to mine apart from an extra 15 miles per week and 45 secs/mile difference in pace Gives me faith I was doing the right thing and that there is room for improvement
Sounds fun Speedy - there'll be time for serious training later
Lovely views Andy and sounds like a great run.
Good mileage Lorenzo in what sounds like tough conditions.
A good run nontheless Steve - good speed to take in to the marathon campaign.
Minni - Are you able to see the whole HR data rather just the maximum interval values? If so, perhaps you should try a HAD style test on a track or similar flat circuit or even a treadmill. So 2mins at a HR of 130, 2 mins at 140, .... and then once you feel you can't go any faster 2 mins flat out. I'm a bit worried your HR is spiking, so if you do a test like this you would hopefully eliminate this as a factor. You would also get a correlation between your pace and HR which would be useful for deciding on training zones etc.
14 miles for me this morning. Yesterday's rain got rid of practically all the snow so just a few patches of moderately icy stuff to contend with and some misty fog. Still nursing my right ankle a little bit so just settled for the 14 at an average pace of 7:45 m/m to give me 44 miles for the week. Only a week left before the P&D VLM schedule kicks in so need to ramp the miles up next week.
Just realised that VLM 11 is right in the middle of the Easter holidays and we're planning on going away for a week. The only option (if I want to still be able to do VLM) is to head somewhere on the 18th and then back on the Easter Monday which of course starts to push the price up if we want to fly anywhere.
Andy Nice photos, sometimes it is good to get out, just to get out.
Speedy Perversely it sounds like you enjoyed it. Better than being in bed coughing I would imagine.
Steve Nice time. I think if the run/weather place doesn't feel right the legs know it first.
Lorenzo Good solid miles as always.
I am not happy with this slagging of The Farm and Anne (God bless her) Robinson, am I sensing some anti Liverpool agenda here? Or am I just being sensitive as due to the weather today it was necessary to wear a shell suit top.
16 for me today. Plan was 6 steady then 10 at PMP. Didn't work like this. I managed 6 steady, 7 at PMP and then 3 at PMP +6%. The last 3 miles I put down to the fun of the last week spent on the toilet and the fact the last 7 miles were straight into a strong headwind, with the last 4 miles the strongest of the lot. I was struggling with the pace from the second mile, so to keep it going for another 5 was good.
My av HR for the 7 miles at PMP was 2% lower than when I ran 8 miles at PMP 3 weeks ago, so hopefully this shows I am improving, just the virus in the system caught up after 100 mins of running.
Nice stats there RJ. Looks like textbook progression. It also explains why I was so much slower than you - my highest mileage week as no where near your easiest week! I am aiming for a fast HM at Paddock Wood. When's the Sidcup 10 and what is the course like?
Minni - Something very strange is happening with your readings. Why don't you abandon heart rate and run to pace instead? After all, it is pace which you will need to run to in the actual marathon to achieve target time.
Andy - Cheers for the pictures. I am sure you have been told this before, but you have a beautiful Crag.
Nice runs from Scooby and Lorenzo.
Steve, you've been training pretty hard and the legs are probably not that fresh. Also very hard to get them going in the cold. Still a respectable time.
Up there with you for the weekly mileage SBD. 47 in total for me. One advantage of the 10 mile race being cancelled is that I have got 2 longish runs in. Did 15m today in 1hr57m. 7.47 pace, which considering it was hilly I am pleased and surprised at. I decided to go for a hilly run over the North Downs, but a lot more snow still up there. Although roads were clear of it, there was a lot of road flooding, meaning detours over fields and along verges. Had to turn back and alter the route when I reached a 100m road flood with no obvious way round. Soggy feet by the time I got home as well.
edited due to spelling like a monkey
Keir wrote (see)
Ok, so I have now done my plan for VLM, it is a combination of all the best bits of P&D,McMillan and Race Jase. My races are Canturbury 10, end of Jan. Tunbridge Wells 1/2 and Paddock Wood 1/2. There'll all be training with a number on though and wont be all out. So Probably will turn out to be somewhere in the middle of HMP & MP....
Sidcup 10 is a pretty quick course , I got my PB there last year (57:56) although there is some debate about whether it may be a little short. I have done it for the last two years and it's never quite measured the full 10 on the Garmin despite it being measured officially accurate in the past.I think they have had to remeasure it as the certificate had expired for last year's race. But as you can see I wont be doing it now anyway.
Happy to send to anyone my schedule if they want to see. PM me your email address, if so.
Thanks Poacher, I got your message. Will sort out the transfer and confirm details soon.
Keir - Sidcup 10 is on 13th February. It's a fast, flat race through the not so scenic suburban streets of, er, Sidcup. I was thinking of entering it myself. Not actually running it, you understand. Just signing up and paying the entry fee.
Ah, it clashes with the Dover HM. Dover is closer and was postponed last yr due to snow, so I have a carried over entry. Alas that financial draw over rules PB chasing.
Be careful of you turn up at the start TAR, you might find that you start running, accidently, like.
Well done again for getting outside. Completely out of the question here unless you were prepared to run on the main roads and pi$$ off the drivers.
Didn't realise scary Anne was a scouser Poacher
16 for me in just over 2 hours on the mill. 53 for the week. Spent the morning sweeping snow and ice off the roof and trying to mend our next door neighbours guttering and fascias which had all sheared off overnight. Not a happy chappie ....
Still baltic here with 4 foot piles of snow everywhere so not much likelihood of going outside again for a while - quite jealous of those of you who can !
RJ - can we look forward to your weighty publication to rival those imbeciles P & D and Macmillan soon ??!!
Fraser Wells wrote (see)
Lol. No I think they have most bases covered, it;s just that as I've got more experienced I've learned what my strenghts and limitations are and sort of mould them both to give me the best possible chance of doing well in April. It's very similar to the Abo build up I did, although a touch longer. I'm hoping that the time factor and having another marathon under my belt will help me into PB shape. Nice milling from you btw. 2 hr!?!?!
Speedy I will try to whenever possible. Yep. It starts officially a week tomorrow so is 18 weeks (although I'm in Florida with work for that week so it remains to be seen how much I manage to do!). This week I will just be trying to get back up to something respectable.
Steve - that was a good 10k time considering the conditions under foot. Probably worth a sub 40 in better weather.
Andy - It must be great to look out of the window and see your crag in the distance!
Lorenzo - You must be slipping lying in till 6.00am did you have a bit of a late night?
B&B - How was The Farm gig?
RJ - What sort of weekly milage are you going to be doing, are you increasing it compared to Abingdon?
15 miles tonight for me in 1.59.52. The pavements are pretty much clear now apart from the odd bit with compacted ice - very dangerous. Nearly slipped A over T a couple of times. Must have the prize for the latest LSR. I went out at 8.00pm tonight (an imense 14 hours after you Lorenzo - you were probably in bed by then) and didn't get back in the house till just after 10pm.
Steve - that's still a good race, especially considering the conditions.
Andy - loving the pics.
Nice LSR KR; it is very dangerous out there. I'm going to stick to the Field until the ice has gone (btw it's a football field, not a farmer in sight!)
I ended up doing my 10 miler yesterday morning, which was a bit of a novelty for me. Very pleased that the field is only a few hundred metres from home as it turned out to be very convenient Nipping home and back in the middle of the run added to the mileage and it ended up as 10.9 miles starting out at MP+30% and ending up at MP+10%, average pace 8:42 min/mile. The toilet break also earned a few brownie points as I took the opportunity to put another load of washing on at cheap rate!
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