For anyone trying to crack the 3h15 barrier anywhere in the world
I think P&D is pretty much a development / refinement of Jack Daniel DM.
No running for me for 2 weeks apparently. Is it normal to feel like this?
Pose, Chi, Hadd, PnD, etc..................run more and you will get better, run some more and you will get even better again. Simple formula really, run lots of slow miles, some quicker miles and a few even quicker miles and you will get better over a prolonged period of time. ..Splendid stuff, that should be cut & pasted on all those newbie threads that start with 'I need a plan' Birch.. how's the recuperation coming along? Keir.. I know a few limericks that would suit that picture!
Pose, Chi, Hadd, PnD, etc..................run more and you will get better, run some more and you will get even better again. Simple formula really, run lots of slow miles, some quicker miles and a few even quicker miles and you will get better over a prolonged period of time.
..Splendid stuff, that should be cut & pasted on all those newbie threads that start with 'I need a plan'
Birch.. how's the recuperation coming along?
Keir.. I know a few limericks that would suit that picture!
Can't remember who is was, some Brit I think who was living in cold Canada - but he used to keep a wheelie bin full of water outside. Instant ice bath.
From my understanding - you actually need to switch between ice and warm water every few minutes for the treatment to be effective (Roman bath style). CNBA anyone?
Kier, you seem to have renderedMinni speechless.
Another run day lost here.
Keir, yes there's not much that can keep Minni quiet but you've managed it with that I'm choking on my breakfast here Ice baths? No way - too much of a wimp! I'm glad it's not too early to start planning races for the spring. I have to say I missed having any 20 mile races for the autumn marathon training - I do almost all my running solo so it's nice to run wih some company. I'll be doing the Tarpley 20 (near Bury St Edmonds) and the Wymondham 20 if anyone else is out in East Anglia? Also the Cranleigh 21 down in Surrey which I really like. I should say that I won't be racing them. Well I might race the first one and use the rest for long runs.Tempted by a recovery run today but probably won't...good that the thought is there though
I'm setting my 2013 goals at the moment too. Main target races:
VLM - of courseNorthumberland Coastal - JulyTM Marathon - Oct
OO I've entered the Northumberland half in March - have you done that before?
FW - I'll be doing the Meadows half again in March but probably just as a MP run. You were looking for more races and this is a great one. 7 laps so also good for building mental strength.
Kier - lets just say, I hope you're feeling better! At least you'll never have to feel like this...
Freemers - I believe the Tarpley 20 is the modern version of the old Bury 20 - is that correct? What date is that? I could be tempted, also. I do most of my running alone as well so like doing some of the longer races for the company as well. Wymondham 20 wouldn't be out of the question either - not too far to travel and I have a caravan on the East coast so could always crash there the night before which would halve the travelling time. For the first time in years I have no family commitments on a Sunday so I intend to get back racing regularly again. It helps keep me focused throughout my training!
Minni - great picture. Some mornings I do feel like that! Also, wanted to say great effort a couple of weeks ago - and even better celebrating!
DS2 - yes, run by the same club but I think the course is different. I've not done it before but I did the old one years ago and remember it was quite tough. I'm seeing my podiatrist for a "post marathon check up" on Saturday - she runs for that club so I'll ask her what its like. It's 24 February. And Wymondham is the following Sunday (first Sunday in March).
Freemers - I remember the Bury 20 being quite tough but I was 19 years younger when I did it and much fitter. It was pretty competitive. If I remember rightly I ran 2:01 and finished 36th!!! I imagine anyone running that pace now would be a little higher placed. This time round I'll be looking to use them more as training runs really rather than racing. I was so naiive back then that I ran a marathon the following weekend.
Is Wymondham near the airforce base at the end of the A11?
I see NYC marathon is definitely going ahead on Sunday - ok if the wind is behind I would think!!!
DS2 - I think my go at the Bury race was about 15 years ago, and I almost certainly would have taken over 3 hours! Definitely improved since then...
Wymondham is off the A11, yes. Probably near an airfield as there are loads round there. The start is right in the town centre, then you go out for about 2.5 miles, do a 7.5 mile loop twice and then back. Pretty flat, just one incline on the way back to the finish, but it's not steep.
Freemers - I'll defintely aim to do at least one of those. Do you live that way? I'm 49 next April so will be 50 the week of VLM 2014 so would like to get my GFA for that year sometime in the Spring 2013. Not sure if Halstead is the fastest course to attempt it on, but I really enjoy the event so will give it a go. Very hilly where I live so it suits me ok!
Where are your PB's nowadays?
DS2 - I live in North Suffolk, about 7 miles south east of Diss. So Bury is about 25 miles away, Wymondham probably the same. I've done the Bungay Marathon before too - that is the closest to me, about 15 miles away. Some say that is quite a hard course, but I didn't find it too bad - it was my PB course for a while, although beat that in VLM last year.
PBs are 3.24 for marathon and 1.34 for HM. 3.15 is a bit of a dream and I need to get my HM time down a bit I think. I'm doing the Norwich HM in a few weeks and will give it a go then - aim for around 1.32-1.33 with any luck. I almost never race shorter stuff, apart from the odd Parkrun - haven't done a 10k in about 3-4 years! I've just entered the Stowmarket 7 a week on Sunday which will be the first one of that sort of distance in a long while, so well see how well I've recovered from the marathon
Freemers - I know it reasonably well up there! Have played a fair bit of hockey at Harleston Magpies over the years. Looks like you've made good improvements. I'm in a similar place as you now. I tend to ignore my PB's from when I was younger because I've had so many years in between without any consistent running that they are somewhat irrelevant. I'm looking at getting my 'current' half PB down to below 1:30 which I think will set me up for sub 3:15 as long as I get the miles in.
Since coming back on this thread I've found my motivation has increased again so I intend to hang around this time. Some of the progress on here is truly inspirational.
Visit the official Runner's World page
Follow Runner's World on Twitter
Other Natmag-Rodale Sites
Run For Charity
About Runner's World
Runner's World is a publication of Hearst Magazines UK which is the trading name of The National Magazine Company Ltd, 72 Broadwick Street, London, W1F 9EP. Registered in England 112955. All rights reserved.
Website powered by: Immediate Media Company Ltd. | © Runner's World 2002-2014 |