Sub 3h15

For anyone trying to crack the 3h15 barrier anywhere in the world

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28/11/2012 at 13:20
Thanks Keir, I can feel my butt cheeks flexing now! Can a static spinning bike be used to replace a turbo trainer (I only have the former)?
28/11/2012 at 13:49

Yes and no. You can use the spinning bike to help your cadence, but it provides a more upright position than you would use on your normal bike so wouldn't really train you in your proper position. It is better than nothing, but a 2nd hand turbo on ebay for £100 which you could resell for similar would probably be a good investment.

28/11/2012 at 13:55
Ok thanks, I'll check that out and maybe amend my letter to Santa.
28/11/2012 at 14:09

SJ - Listen to CD, he knows how to juggle marathons and IM, I only do 1/2 IM. I have a Tacx Sirius, you'll get a new one for ~£150. It was the best value buy when i got mine. Turboing is gold in vlaue, but hard work mentally - unless you like that sort of thing. Keir doesnt enjoy it, I see it as a mental challenge.

28/11/2012 at 14:24

28/11/2012 at 14:27

Just quickly, while there's a multisport theme going on: one of the things that appeals to me about running (apart from the fact you can do it straight from your front door and only need a pair of trainers) is that there are standard distances , 10k, HM, marathons etc, so PBs are possible. It seems that with triathlon there is a similar scheme, with Olympic distances, Half IMs, and IronMan distances (and I presume other ones in the same way that you get perculiar distance running). But in cycling there doesn't (from my very minimal research ) seem to be any uniform targets. In other words, what do cyclists aim for? Do you get 50M pbs for example or is it just about finishing high up in a race? Is there a cycling equivilant to a mrathon?

I'd love to try and do a triathlon once I've achived more running, but drowning would be a very real danger: perhaps biathlons.

28/11/2012 at 14:37

Time trials are over measured distances, similar to running. Standard pb distances are (and I will shamelessly give my pbs for each distance, just to show TR I am not that much of a wimp )

10m - 21.09

25m - 56.25

50m 1.54.41

100m 3.59.23

12hr 264m

Road races (where you race to be the first over the line rather than quickest over the set distance) are all odd distances, but generally the better the category of rider, the further the race. 

Blisters    pirate
28/11/2012 at 15:20

JD3, It's quite possible to go from being a runner to being able to swim stupid distances in a relatively short space of time. I was firmly in the "swims like a brick" category.
01 May: 25m crawl
08 May: 20x 25m in one session
08 Jun: 400m continuous
13 Jun: 800m continuous
15 Jun: 1000m continuous
14 Aug: 1600m (1 pool mile)
14 Sep: 2000m
09 Oct: 2500m
It's not a pretty thing to watch, and it's not fast, but I'm lucky in that the more I do the better I get.

28/11/2012 at 15:42

Keir - wasnt calling you a wimp, but if you want to call yourself one....ha ha .............I was pointing out that I like the mental challenge of things, you find turbo boring, you are probably more normal than me..............I ride the same routes, run the same routes, turbo the same sessions just to see that I still can ! the boredom of a 2hr turbo becomes the challenge of the boredom of a 2hr turbo. VLM is just to prove than I still can.
I read a new quote the other day that went something along the lines of "you can quit and others will see it and they wont care. but you will". Nail on the noggin for me.

Edited: 28/11/2012 at 15:43
28/11/2012 at 16:57
Keir- 12 hours on a bicycle seat!!!!???? Are you downright radio rental sir?? Mighty impressive. Did your buns continue to assume a saddle shaped dimple for a week or two after ?

I agree with TR- the boredom element is worth 20 per cent or more every time. Track marathon anyone??
28/11/2012 at 17:51
Ouch, Keir I assume you invested in an amazing pair of cycling shorts to protect your undercarriage! Interesting to see that you do 50miles in the time it takes me to do 30.... Respeck
28/11/2012 at 19:52
UTMB is on the tv on C4 next Wednesday at 3:30am for those masochists among you who might be interested.
28/11/2012 at 20:01

Cheers for the tip SJ. I reckon that is one for the video. 

I couldn't feel the tips of a few of my toes until 3 months later Fraser! Funny enough, when you are doing that sort of mileage in training your 'undercarrage' becomes immune. I get more pain now after a 60m ride than I every did after 150m.

Good swimming progression there blisters. How many times per week do you get in the pool to achieve that?

28/11/2012 at 20:30

264miles in 12 hours is going some Keir.

I once did the Styrkeproven, which is 330 miles but it did take almost 24 hours

The effect on the nether regions lasted for several months and I was unable to eat a banana for years

That said - a highly recommended event for anyone that feels underchallenged by running a 3 hour marathon


Edited: 28/11/2012 at 20:32
28/11/2012 at 21:55

We have had photos of Poachers toes after ultra runs. Keir Any photos after your ultra ride?

6 miles recovery tonight. Felt like a golf ball in my right calf the entire run. Lots of ice and drugs. Not happy. It seems 15 on Sunday and 14 last night (all slow) was too much for my delicate legs. Most frustrating as the 14 felt so easy last night, my endurance was definately on the up.

28/11/2012 at 22:03

That programme on the UTMB is also on at 7.35am on Sunday on C4 (and an hour later on C4 +1), just in case you don't want to stay up all night. 

28/11/2012 at 23:34

Keir - you still use a video and VHS tapes?

Blisters    pirate
28/11/2012 at 23:59

Awesomely quick and long biking there Keir, as others have said. I'm actually struggling to get much past 70 miles at the moment, due to contact point considerations and adjacent rubbing. Further work on this challenge is planned over the coming weeks.

Re the swimming, I get one coaching session a week, as part of a group. This is backed up by two other swims typically, although when we are on holiday it was a daily hour.

29/11/2012 at 07:58
knight rider wrote (see)

Keir - you still use a video and VHS tapes?


Little keir No. 3 woke at 4.15 at which point I felt so tired I 're-evaluated' the wisdom of setting my alarm for 5.30am. Reset for 1hr later and I have taken a rest day instead. I've a long day at work - after work staff training followed by governors meeting so I feel justified in removing a 90min run from a 14hr work day. 

Definately getting colder. Is anyone still in shorts?

29/11/2012 at 08:36

Keir - looks like a good decision with such a long day. Ran in tights yesterday morning first thing. Probably didn't need them to be honest. The gloves haven't made an appearance yet though - saving those for the really cold stuff.

All this talk of cycling made me think I was on the Sub 3 thread.....

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