Sub 3h15

For anyone trying to crack the 3h15 barrier anywhere in the world

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25/11/2012 at 21:31
OO lets go. wrote (see)

For marathon preparations next year I can't recommend this more highly

 http://www.keswick-ac.org.uk/Buttermere%20Entry%20Form%202013.doc

34km with some serious hills. And only £6 to enter on the day.

I lke the caveat: Entries limited to experienced Senior Club runners only

That translates to "no fun runners"

For what it is worth, your body adjusts to food intake. Cut down the calories and it turns the burners down, so the trick is to keep your metabolism high and not just cut down on intake.

25/11/2012 at 21:42

Don't forget Mini, that male body fat % is supposed to be a lot lower than female body fat ,so don't try to compete with the chaps on that one!

After many years of a sedentary lifestyle, I tried and tried to shift some weight. After a lot of flops I ended up on the Harcombe Diet. There were a few core rules to it, but the one good thing was you never counted calories. I shifted 3 1/2 stone on this which I maintained until I started running. Now I've gained a couple of pounds but do eat like a horse. I'm still following the principles of the diet, but suspect I'm not getting enough protein. What is the recommendation if any on protein for runners.

 

26/11/2012 at 08:21

Has anyone done online Championship entry for London 2013 yet? I think I have applied but have heard nothing back not even a confirmation and am a bit worried that I haven't done it correctly. The contact phone number appears to be in Germany! Sorry if this has already been discussed on here but haven't logged on for ages

26/11/2012 at 09:43

Point taken AR!!

I'll get back to you about the protein when I have more time.

 

26/11/2012 at 10:09

Morning all,

Firstly - just caught up and saw the sad news from Gul.  Take care x

Minni - another podium finish can't be bad!

A bit-shit-but-could-have-been-worse performance from me at the Norwich HM yesterday.  Gale force winds meant it was very hard going in places...I just took the decision early on not to fight against the wind too much, and put all thoughts of a quick time out of my head. I even stopped doing the manual laps on my Garmin after half way and didn't check my time again until the end...came in at 1.38.51.  Not what I'd hoped for but that was before the weather gods conspired

One for DS2 - the Broadland Half is back on the calendar next year - 17 March.

26/11/2012 at 10:35

I was very sorry to read about your dad, Gul.

If anyone wants a gratis race number for the Langdale 10k (16th December at midday), then let me know and I'll put it in the post to you.  Number transfers are permitted on the day but, to quote the Race Director's letter to all entrants, "no iPods, heart monitors or daft Garmins".  I wish this man organised more races.  Obviously, I wouldn't actually run any of them, but at least I'd get to enjoy his letters.  He goes on to say, "Your time is taken from the starting hooter and I don't give a toss what your Garmin says".  Which sounds fair and reasonable.

Meanwhile, in a move which would doubtless give the Langdale man the Vapours, I've resorted to acupuncture in an attempt to aid my 10 month old Achilles problem.  I don't believe for a second that it'll work, but it's nice to lie face down on a bench and listen to New Age music every Wednesday afternoon.

26/11/2012 at 10:40
For a challenging view on diet, Scott Jurek's book is worth a look (he's a vegan and a great athlete).

Nice podium Minni, TBH a big part of my recent improvement has been facing up to short races and realising that they have a part to play in developing not only speed but mental strength too, made me realise I had lots to learn and needed to HTFU. You can only benefit from going short, keep it up. (Truly vile weather on the coast today, must be horrid up your way too)
Edited: 26/11/2012 at 10:41
26/11/2012 at 11:01

TAR - excellent post - brought a smile this grey Monday morning  . . .(not smiling at your ongoing achilles issue, though - does it prevent any running at all)?
Poacher - "made me realise I had lots to learn and needed to HTFU"  - very pertinent here too !  Meanwhile
Minni - podium placing always good  . . .
Speedy - great miles for this time of year  . . . .
Freemers - well toughed out - never easy in  a howling gale  . . .
OO - 30 mile week here, also - but I'm rather pleased with mine

26/11/2012 at 12:12

Some great posting on here this morning. Especially liked TAR's - brightened my morning!

Freemers - Good going in the howling gale. It was a relief to only be out on a training run yesterday morning. I didn't envy anyone with a number on. Can't be too disappointed with the time in those conditions. I'll think about that race. Will wait and see if I have any luck with the Asics Target 26.2 first. (Probably unlikely, but I don't want to enter some races now and waste the entry money).

Poacher - weather awful here today, but I'm on a rest day!! Will probably have a gentle spin in the garage tonight followed by some core work. Looks like the week will get brighter, drier and colder. That might be a good thing - I keep wearing the wrong clothes....

As for speed and shorter distances - I feel as slow as anything at the moment but reasonably strong. I will need to do some long interval work soon and get a shorter distance race in to focus on. Like many others on here, it seems!

26/11/2012 at 12:27

Krissy64 - one or two on here might be able to shed some light but might be worth dropping into the Sub 3 thread. There's loads on there on championship starts and they are all really helpful even for one-off visitors that need assistance.

Good luck. What time did you run to be on that start?

26/11/2012 at 13:29

Daft Garmins... and I don't give a toss what your Garmins s - love it TAR! Next thing he'll ban long sleeve tops and you'll have to wear a vest and only shorts.

Had a bit of a carp Parkrun on Saturday - 18.54. Felt like hardwork. The only excuses I have is a head cold and the slippery/flooded surface. Bit disappointed as I thought I was quicker than that at the moment. Looks like I'll be down the track again this week!

26/11/2012 at 13:51

Thanks for that DS2. I will check them out but in the meantime if anyone else on here has any info that would be great.

Ran 3.13 last year which is why I thought I'd check the sub 3.15 thread and not the sub 3!

26/11/2012 at 13:52
TAR - that made me laugh. I've not done the race but been there supporting and it's that kind of event. Bit like the TM marathon where the course map is hand drawn and arrows going in every direction.

Birch - re the podium, it's a perk of being middle age woman.

Poacher - I'm up in Berwick today and its grimmer than the normal grim. Thanks for the tip on shorter races - keep telling me though to keep me at it. I hate them so much. I wish there was a parkrun around here and that would solve a lot of problems for me.

Krissy - why not phone the number under 'contact us' on the VLM site? That would seem the quickest way to find out.
26/11/2012 at 14:18

Krissy64 - Jools may be your best bet! Jools????

3:13 - respect!

26/11/2012 at 18:09

Well done Birch. It's no disaster but I had hope for more miles.

26/11/2012 at 18:16

Hi All,

Sorry to hear your news Gul.

Got out early doors friday and saturday with a 6 and 12 respectively to take me upto 35 for the week- brought sundays lr forward to saturday so really 47. chuffed.

Flooded! Spent the last 24hrs bailing out the cellar and fixing pond overflows and diverting streams - completely soaked through - no run tonight as it is lashing down again but reckon wading knee deep in mud for 12 hours can class as cross training.

82kg and 6ft, reckon my marathon weight is about 4kg lighter.

Well poded Minni

 

26/11/2012 at 19:18

Sorry, I'm sulking about my still-too-sore-to-train-neck...  Off for another treatment soon.  Am avoiding crossing fingers in case the added tension worsens things

Krissy: I heard back very quickly about my champs entry.  The contact number on the VLM website is definitely not in Germany: 020 7902 0200

26/11/2012 at 19:33

Thanks for that Jools. Did you get an email? I can log on to the site now anyway and have until 4th Jan to get it sorted. I will give them a ring. TBH found it all rather confusing so best if I phone them up and see what's what! This is what made me think of Germany! When I go through the online registration process there is a contact box and this is the info!

Online-Registration: Mika timing GmbH
    • Address
      Mika timing GmbH
      Kürtener Straße 11b (Strundepark)
      51465 Bergisch Gladbach
      Germany

      Phone: +49 (0) 2202 2401-0
      Fax: +49 (0) 2202 2401-29
      Email: info@mikatiming.de
26/11/2012 at 20:18

Blimey Joolska, I'm surprised your neck is still sore- must have been a really violent dream if you did it in your sleep! I ran with a mouth full of stitches on Sunday against the dentists advice- lived to tell the tale though.

You would not believe the amout of rain that has lashed down here today in the North-East. Good excuse to stay home and eat.

Also meant to mention, young OO (daughter number 3) came with me for the first 3 miles on Sunday, and wants to try parkrun next week. Might have finally found a runner among my offspring.  

26/11/2012 at 21:29

Excellent, OO-  I'm pleased my two run and compete

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