Sub 3h15

For anyone trying to crack the 3h15 barrier anywhere in the world

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11/12/2010 at 08:05

Hi Jane, running 3.33 in LN and then 3.26 a few weeks later at NY is impressive stuff. You must have been pretty tired at the enod of it all.

Did you pretty much follow your plan above to train for that? It sounds as if you are pretty good endurance wise, What are your longest runs leading up to a marathon?

11/12/2010 at 08:52
Hi everyone. I've been feeling a bit homeless since the Abingdon thread closed so is it ok to drop in here? Good to see a few names I know from that thread - Keir, Barry B and RJ. I've read through this thread from the start and am interested in your training talk, eg. the stuff about doubles, as I've found they've helped me.

I'm not really sure what my plans are. I've got my London Champs application by the door, ready to post...although it has been there for a month now! I'm rubbish at winter training as I get frequent viruses (being a teacher, a mum to 2 littlies at nursery and someone who eats chocolate rather than fruit) but I love summer running. So my thought at the minute is to aim for around 3:15 in a spring marathon to keep things ticking over, then go for Abingdon again where I got 2:58 this year.

I've barely run since Abingdon and am not really doing much at the minute as I have another cold.
11/12/2010 at 09:35
Hi Jane, running 3.33 in LN and then 3.26 a few weeks later at NY is impressive stuff. You must have been pretty tired at the enod of it all.

Did you pretty much follow your plan above to train for that? It sounds as if you are pretty good endurance wise, What are your longest runs leading up to a marathon?


Hi Kier - sorry about odd way this is written - i don't seem to have a "quote box" in my window

i reckoned that since i was fit i would be good to go again 3 weeks later in NY as my longest run before a marathon is usually 23 miles 3 weeks before. Well, when i say usually i mean (in my limited experience of 3!) Thats what i did for London and it seemed to work so i stuck to that. That is the problem - i don't actually have a good plan. i just try to run faster every day for distances i listed earlier and keep it up for longer and longer distances at the weekends on my long runs as i work towards the big day.
kittenkat    pirate
11/12/2010 at 09:47

Morning. A bit hungover, but it's ok Liz Yelling just said on the telly it was.

*Thud*

11/12/2010 at 09:48

(Wanders back in from the thick snow and think it's about time to start posting again.)

Have been doing a bit of running but nothing spectacular or worth posting about so have just been following things from afar and lurking.

Most importantly, have cast my vote for you KR. Hope that you get it but don't think that you will, I feel that you have been selected as a token male for the category, with the sub 3 category choice being all male it is unlikely that RW will have two males in the fastest two categories, (I might be wrong)

The snow up here is unbelievable so on wednesday I put on the cold weather kit for running, two pairs socks, tracksters, long shorts, two tops, thermal jacket, two pairs gloves and hat. Well it was -13 degrees and that was in the garage on the treadmill.

The thaw has started so hoping to get back outside to run this weekend.

11/12/2010 at 10:09

OGL - I tried to get out on the roads. Still all very dubious and the pavements are a nightmare - accident waiting to happen.

Jane - yeah I think we've had the worst snow for over 40 years. Hmmmm. Where are your family based ? Echo Keir's sentiments about your impressive improvement in just one year. I did Loch Ness too and couldn't really do anything for a month afterwards (!) so doing NY so soon after is mega. You'll make great strides once you start doing something more structured with some quicker stuff. How are you faring for shorter distance PB s?

Welcome Pipes. Great time at Abingdon for your ! Which spring mara are you thinking of ?

11/12/2010 at 10:09
Pipes wrote (see)
(being a teacher, a mum to 2 littlies at nursery and someone who eats chocolate rather than fruit) but I love summer running. So my thought at the minute is to aim for around 3:15 in a spring marathon to keep things ticking over, then go for Abingdon again

Hi Pipes. Good to see you back. Everything you have said applies precisely to me!  

In spring I am mainly focusing on a faster HM time then hope for a sub 3.15 a few weeks later. But main focus for the year is Abo, where I hope to improve by 10 mins or so to achieve the time you did this year.

OGL - Good to see you back as well.  -13 is crazy. You should move south and then you can complain then it is -3 for 3 days running like the other soft southeners down here.

Some good LSRs there then Jane. Use the speech marksunder each post to quote and paste quotes.

11/12/2010 at 10:29
Fraser - I've now posted my London entry so probably that one, if I can do it fairly cheaply. I haven't done London since 2005 so it would be nice to go back. My club organises a coach to go down on the morning so there would be good camaraderie.

Sounds like a good plan, Keir. Which half (I know that info is probably on the list I saw a few pages ago but I can't find that list now!)?

Jane - I can't do bold or speech marks, so it's not just you. I think it's because I use a Mac/ Safari but am happy for someone to tell me it's just my incompetence! I have a button for bold, but it doesn't do anything. And if there are any speech marks under each post, I can't see any. I would love to be able to do these things.
11/12/2010 at 10:33

Hi Pipes - you'll enjoy the banter on here too - a new home for you!

OGL - thanks for the vote, not sure about the gender thing in my category? You should put a radiator in there! Hope the snow melts soon for you. One of my neighbours (who never close their curtains and always have their main light on) has a treadmill in their dining room. I the 4 years I have lived here I've never seen it being used. Maybe I should introduce myself and ask to use it!

Hi Jane326, good to see you on here now, you'll pick up oe good tips if you hang around. What browser are you using? I know that when I use Safari all the quote button disappear and yet Firefox is ok and works.

Work Xmas party last night and feel a bit knackered today. I might try and go for a gentle run later tonight.

11/12/2010 at 10:56
Thanks, Knight rider. And I'm glad you agreed with the Safari thing. I don't really think the gender thing is an issue either, although I can see what OGL is saying. I'm another person who looked at the posting history of those shortlisted before even reading the Q&A bit or registering the gender. I have voted now . I do wish they have a female in the sub3 bit, though.

Well, slow 3.5miles done today. Got to re-start somewhere. My chest isn't really liking it though. It felt very mild out there (sorry OGL/ Fraser and anyone else with snow).
11/12/2010 at 11:54

Glad I wasn't the only one out on the tiles last night. KK - what exactly did Liz say?

Taking it easy today (i.e. no running), but will head out early tomorrow morning. At least all the ice seems to have disappeared.

Welcome too to Jane and Pipes - can confirm what others have said about the fact that there's plenty of good advice thrown around by the folks on here (it helped me go sub 3:15) but a good plenty of serious and not-so-serious.

11/12/2010 at 12:11
Pipes wrote (see)
Keir. Which half (I know that info is probably on the list I saw a few pages ago but I can't find that list now!)?

As good as excuse as any to repost the list. Feel free to add your a goals guys and galls

07.11.10 - SteveC1975 - Regents Park 10K - Around 40 Mins - 40:14 - job done
21.11.10 - AfE - Abbey Dash 10k - sub-39 as a marker/indicator - 38:22 - job done
21.11.10 - BOTF - Brighton 10k - under 40:30 - 40:02 - job done
05.12.10 - GE - Regents Park 10k - sub 38:30
05.12.10 - SteveC1975 - Regents Park 10K - Sub 40 Mins
23.01.11- Barry B Gloucester Marathon - Sub 3:15
23.01.11 - AfE - Brass Monkey Half - sub-1:25
05.02.11 - Lorenzo - Thames Trot 50 - Sub 8 hours
13.02.11 - Matchstick Man - Wokingham HM - 1h23m
13.02.11 - SBD - Wokingham HM - 1:24
13.02.11 - BOTF - Wokingham HM - 1:25, but seeing the two entries above...?
20.02.11 - BOTF - Bramley 20 - sub 2:25
06.03.11 - Scooby - Marathon Catalunya - 3:09:59
06.03.11 - MsE - Bath HM - Sub 1.30
06.03.11 - Joolska - Bath HM - tbc...
13.03.11 - Knight RIder - Retford Half Marathon - 1:26.xx
13.03.11 - SBD - MIlton Keynes - 1:24
19.03.11 - Badbark - Larne Half Marathon - Sub 1:30
19.03.11 - Speedy - Stafford HM  - 1.31.59
20.03.11 - FINgers - Reading Half Marathon - Sub 1:26
20.03.11 - Ormeski - Reading Half Marathon - Sub 1:25
20:03.11 - BOTF - Reading HM - 1:25
20.03.11 - SteveC1975 - Brentwood Half Marathon - Sub 1:28
27.03.11 - Keir - Paddock Wood HM - Sub 1:25
10.04.11 - FW - Chris Hoy HM Edinburgh - Sub 1:20
10.04.11 - FINgers - Brighton Marathon - 3:09:59
10.04.11 - Knight Rider - Brighton Marathon - Sub 3.15
10.04.11 - B&B vs MM in the Regency 10k Smackdown! - Sub39.
17.04.11 - SBD - VLM  - 2:49
17:04.11 - Ant - VLM - 2:54:59
17.04.11 - Joolska - VLM - 2.59.59
17:04:11 - AfE - VLM - 2:59:59
17.04.11 - Lorenzo - VLM - sub 3:10
17:04:11 - BOTF - VLM - 3:10 ish
17:04:11 - MsE - - VLM  - 3.14.59
17.04.11 - Speedy - VLM  - 3.14.59
17.04.11 - SteveC1975 - VLM  - 3.14.59
17.04.11 - Ormeski - VLM  - sub 3.15
17.04.11 - Race Jase - VLM - not sure on target just yet, but hopefully I'll be in PB (sub2:39) shape.
01.05.11 - Gul Darr - GEAR 10k - sub 42
08.05.11 - Keir - Essex & Halstead Marathon - Sub 3.15
22.05.11 - B&B - Edinburgh Marathon - 3:09:59
18.06.11 - Lorenzo - Picnic - sub 4:45

11/12/2010 at 12:45
Nice to see some more laydeez on here, for a while there was only me and Joolska posting regularly and I was feeling rather outnumbered!
11/12/2010 at 12:49
Hi Kier/ Pipes/ KN/ Lorenzo - i dont have the speech marks. i'm on a mac/safari too and think i'm not getting correct screen view. i only have 3 options - 1message member/ignore or send to friend. have noted as a bug so hope RW techies can help ...KN - think you are right - may change to FFox


Hi Frazer - Loch Ness was my fav so far. loved it. bit shocked at the hills though - did not realise there were so many. am looking forward to improving and feel sure i can if i follow advice/ tips in here. my shorter PB's are crap. 45 for 10k (split in NY) and 1.39 for half.
not done too many shorter races.

sister in Edinb, another sister in dalkeith, brother in Balfron parents in dundee

all snowed in - im taking my skis up for xmas and going to aviemore or glencoe

11/12/2010 at 12:50
hi lady speedy goth
11/12/2010 at 12:58
OGL -are you in Scotland too?
11/12/2010 at 13:00
mmm firefox not working either
11/12/2010 at 13:21

Welcome to Jane and Pipes.

Jane - I think we need to get you to run at a range of paces rather than a constant 7:50!  Running slower is the key to running faster - just ask Ant

Pipes - I had a good view of your heels at Abingdon as you came storming past at 24 miles.  I managed to hitch a ride for a few hundred meters but then you dissapeared in to the distance.  Not sure what your pacing strategy was but you looked in very good shape at 24 miles!

5 recovery miles for me this morning - all very easy stuff although probably a little high on the HR as mentally I've decided that I shouldn't run my recovery runs at slower than 8:34 m/m pace

11/12/2010 at 13:26
Is that on a treadmill SBD? 8.34 pace sounds random, except for the fact that it's 7mph.
kittenkat    pirate
11/12/2010 at 13:27

07.11.10 - SteveC1975 - Regents Park 10K - Around 40 Mins - 40:14 - job done
21.11.10 - AfE - Abbey Dash 10k - sub-39 as a marker/indicator - 38:22 - job done
21.11.10 - BOTF - Brighton 10k - under 40:30 - 40:02 - job done
05.12.10 - GE - Regents Park 10k - sub 38:30
05.12.10 - SteveC1975 - Regents Park 10K - Sub 40 Mins
23.01.11- Barry B Gloucester Marathon - Sub 3:15
23.01.11 - AfE - Brass Monkey Half - sub-1:25
05.02.11 - Lorenzo - Thames Trot 50 - Sub 8 hours
13.02.11 - Matchstick Man - Wokingham HM - 1h23m
13.02.11 - SBD - Wokingham HM - 1:24
13.02.11 - BOTF - Wokingham HM - 1:25, but seeing the two entries above...?
20.02.11 - BOTF - Bramley 20 - sub 2:25
06.03.11 - Scooby - Marathon Catalunya - 3:09:59
06.03.11 - MsE - Bath HM - Sub 1.30
06.03.11 - Joolska - Bath HM - tbc...
13.03.11 - Knight RIder - Retford Half Marathon - 1:26.xx
13.03.11 - SBD - MIlton Keynes - 1:24
19.03.11 - Badbark - Larne Half Marathon - Sub 1:30
19.03.11 - Speedy - Stafford HM  - 1.31.59
20.03.11 - FINgers - Reading Half Marathon - Sub 1:26
20.03.11 - Ormeski - Reading Half Marathon - Sub 1:25
20:03.11 - BOTF - Reading HM - 1:25
20.03.11 - SteveC1975 - Brentwood Half Marathon - Sub 1:28
27.03.11 - Keir - Paddock Wood HM - Sub 1:25
10.04.11 - FW - Chris Hoy HM Edinburgh - Sub 1:20
10.04.11 - FINgers - Brighton Marathon - 3:09:59
10.04.11 - Knight Rider - Brighton Marathon - Sub 3.15
10.04.11 - B&B vs MM in the Regency 10k Smackdown! - Sub39.
17.04.11 - SBD - VLM  - 2:49
17:04.11 - Ant - VLM - 2:54:59
17.04.11 - Joolska - VLM - 2.59.59
17:04:11 - AfE - VLM - 2:59:59
17.04.11 - Lorenzo - VLM - sub 3:10
17:04:11 - BOTF - VLM - 3:10 ish
17:04:11 - MsE - - VLM  - 3.14.59
17.04.11 - Speedy - VLM  - 3.14.59
17.04.11 - SteveC1975 - VLM  - 3.14.59
17.04.11 - Ormeski - VLM  - sub 3.15
17.04.11 - Race Jase - VLM - not sure on target just yet, but hopefully I'll be in PB (sub2:39) shape.
17.04.11 - kittenkat - VLM 3.10
01.05.11 - Gul Darr - GEAR 10k - sub 42
08.05.11 - Keir - Essex & Halstead Marathon - Sub 3.15
22.05.11 - B&B - Edinburgh Marathon - 3:09:59
18.06.11 - Lorenzo - Picnic - sub 4:45

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