Sub 3h15

For anyone trying to crack the 3h15 barrier anywhere in the world

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22/06/2012 at 20:44
Saturday races of Great North Swim cancelled! Boooo.

I'll have to just wear my wetsuit round the house then .... Disappointed

Sorry to hear about your injury issues MsE, how is it now?

Well done to fellow relayers on getting places <img src='/forum/smilies/smile_smiley.gif' /> Expecting a full report Minni!

Congrats on the PB PMJ. And great racing from OO too! Itching to have a good burn up, might try to sneak in to the Lancaster 5K next week.
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22/06/2012 at 20:45

Me too, soaked at Tynemouth on my 5 mile plodge. Did I mention I got a Coastal Run entry- hoping for hot summer weather by then

22/06/2012 at 20:58

Yes, good news about the entry OO. 

22/06/2012 at 22:10

Here is my Achilles tendon.  Thank you for your concern and messages of support.  As TAR referenced, the comfort received from internet strangers is not to be underestimated. Physio said it is Achilles tendinopathy and I am to do calf raises and ice massage.

 It looks carp doesn't it?  I tried a gentle run yesterday but as soon as I started to run (as opposed to jog) it felt sore so I stopped in case I made things worse.  I also have a Just Spayed Hunting Dog that cannot be let off leash and must be kept indooors mainly in order to keep her wound clean, and 4 children at home on summer holiday.  The marathon is in 5 weeks...   And did I mention that not only do I have a fat ankle, but I seem to be eating as if I am still running 60 mpw and will soon have a fat tummy to match the fat ankle! Heeeeeeelp!

22/06/2012 at 22:14

Oh MsE nooooooooo.  I feel your pain and frustration.   Do you know what has caused it?  How much are you able to jog on it? 

22/06/2012 at 22:29

MsE: it does look sore, but fingers crossed the advice from the physio will get you fixed in time.  Going by the pictures a couple of weeks ago, you're a long way from a fat tummy!

22/06/2012 at 22:46
Relay update - I'm hearing tonight that it's running about 30 minutes ahead of schedule.
22/06/2012 at 22:49
It's these hills, Minni! It came on after a 21 mile hilly run and the hills can emphasise the dorsiflexion in the foot and any tightness in the calf puts extra pressure on the Achilles. Or something like that. I always have tight calf muscles and stretch them constantly but I think I should have had a bit more help in the form of regular massage. I think buggy running (slow) might be ok but nothing involving any pace at all. I'll see this weekend...
23/06/2012 at 00:19

Belated ( a few days) well done on the Commrades report BikeIt - another epic journey completed! I thin I would have freaked out with the bus journey and it struggling on the hills! Great stuff and congrats again for getting your sub 9 hour time.

Glad you have found a good Club Menn - nice 800 reps!

Ouch MsE - From what you have posted for your training & races you have put in a lot of work, so hopefully if you aren't running much in the next few weeks it won't be too bad. I do hope it eases soon.

23/06/2012 at 01:48

One of the reasons I am so gutted is because I have just been accepted to join a local women's racing team called the Impalas who have some seriously good runners.  Anyway, they said not to worry and I have been voted in so I can start training with them when I am recovered.  They have sponsorship with Nike and I am eligible for some free shoes!  I do not wear Nikes so wondered if any Nike wearers could tell me a bit about their Nikes?

23/06/2012 at 08:05

Congrats to all the current and future baton leg runners.

If it makes anyone feel any better it is much to hot here for any sort of enjoyable running.   Last night was 5k warm up, 5 k at 6:48 pace and 5k cool down. Absolutely soaking due to heat and drank over a litre of water as soon as I got back. It is currently 9 am and 22 degrees already.

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23/06/2012 at 08:07

Oh dear, that doesn't look pretty MsE. Did your physio give you an idea of how quickly you might expect to recover?

Mile race on the track for me last night. Road PB is 5.38 but I'm nowhwere near that sort of shape. I predicted 5.45 and was put in the sub 6 race, which I won in a sprint finish in 5.43.5. At least it will make my Po10 look slightly more respectable than the 6.xx they were showing on there due to the PB race being ARC. I won a bottle of wine. It was a slightly hollow victory though. My sprint finish was against an U11 boy.  He led the pace beautifully all the way round and we ran very even splits, but the howling gale was in our faces on the finishing straight and, being twice his size, I just had more power to put my foot down in the last 100m. I doubt he would have liked the wine though. 

I should have run the 5000 again. Last year I ran 19.11 in that. This year it was sponsored and first lady took home a £50 cheque. She ran 20.20. Grrr. 

23/06/2012 at 08:37
That looks nasty MSE. I had pain/bumbs on both achilles from hill walking. Had weeks of pain as I was waiting for treatment on our NHS which was a tiny bit of massage, and some stretching to try and lengthen calves and hamstrings.

The discomfort went quite quickly, but I was left with the bumps which disappered over time. I've done a fair amount of hill walking since without a relapse - the future is bright
23/06/2012 at 09:57

MsE - commiserations on the achilles prblem. Get well soon.
SD - nice tempo run in the heat.
Speedy - never mind, that's great racing still.
Good luck to Minni today in the relay.
Unofficially equalled my parkrun PB today in 19:48, 6th place overall. Splits of 6:03, 6:23, 6:32 and 0:49. I'd settled into 5th place, but in the last 100m I heard someone flying up behind me and pulled over to let them past. In total I did 9 miles at an average pace of 6:57 m/m. Very happy with that

23/06/2012 at 10:11

Speedy, good mile there. I reckon that must be one of your best relative performances of the year, hints at a low 19.xx 5k so tales of a slow summer are behind you I think. Also if it was as windy there as it was here it is worth 1-2 seconds a lap so really that should be a 5:40.

MsE, Achilles problems come in many shapes and sizes, I had one and it cleared quickly with heavy running, icing and stretching. The physio reckoned kill or cure, so it would either get better or get operated on.

Baton still doesn't seem to be working on the relay.

Foot hurts a bit, symptoms seem to suggest plantar facisatus so pain in the morning on the base in front of the heel, clears when I put on shoes and get it working. It seems mild to me i.e. it is sharp pain but after about 5 minutes I can run normally, anyone had similar? I don't want to make it worse by training too much but also if it will clear with time I don't mind running through it.

Edit to add well run Gul, didn't realise it was that late so you could parkrun and report.


Edited: 23/06/2012 at 10:12
23/06/2012 at 10:14
PMJ the battery unit has died but it is going to be replaced at the end of my leg. Now about 20 minutes behind schedule.
23/06/2012 at 13:30
PMJ, I had plantar fasciitis 3 years ago during my first mara campaign and it got to the point that I couldn't walk on it before I got it sorted. "Cure" for me is lots of calf stretches with foot massage by rolling my foot over a "dryer ball". Unfortunately the problem hasn't really ever gone away other than easing off after lots of stretching and taking the volume down a bit. It's really a symptom of my tight calves / shin splints issues than a stand alone problem so I know if the foot is sore the rest will follow unless I loosen off - I give my morning foot pain a daily score on my training log, how sad is that?
I'd make sure you step up the stretches, get a sports massage concentrating on the calves and crack on. I've heard others using gel inserts - not sure if they are effective. If your calves ARE tight, think about what could be causing it and resolve it.
23/06/2012 at 13:42

Jezza, I forgot to say I still can't see your pics as the link only takes me to the home page and I don't know your race number. Clearly these pics just aren't meant to be seen!

12 miles this morning including the birthday event of Colwick Parkrun. Couldn't drag myself out of bed early enough so only had a 0.4 mile warm up. Didn't bother restarting my watch and just ran around comfortably in about MP I think, stopped to get my code scanned and ran off down the river and back to make 12 miles. It is horendously windy out there. 

23/06/2012 at 17:11

Jezza, yes, what was your race number?

Great mile, Speedy, and in calm conditions you'll smash that. Oh, and remember that you can only beat those who toe the start line.

Brilliant ParkRunning Gul, you must be well pleased. I am still slightly haunted by that photo of you, though...

MsE - Oooyah! As they used to say in the Beano. That looks really nasty, although from what your fizz and others have said, the best thing would be to keep running, with heat before, ice after and plenty of self-massage, raises and stretcbhing.

 Now, to the really importnat issue - what in God's name is that brown woolly thing behind you in the photo? It appears to have jauntily crossed its legs and to be reclining in your bed.

PMJ - Good luck with that foot, hope it doesn't get any worse.

As for me, my recovery is going well. I'm still just doing 5-6 milers but have progressed from just going round and round the very small park next to my house (I felt like Gul) to doing ever larger sections on the road, with no ill-effects. I am really pleased. Tomorrow I plan to do a bit more, to take me over the hour, and if that goes all right I'll say goodbye/adiós to the fizz on Monday.

Tomorrow is the Maratón de Asturias which, had I been fit, I would have done.



Edited: 23/06/2012 at 17:14
23/06/2012 at 17:59

Speedy Nice quick mile. Hope the poor lad recovers.

PMJ Hope the foot sorts itself.

Gul Lightning fast parkrun.

Ant Don't try too much to soon.

For various reasons I have not done any post run stretching for about a month. My niggles seem a lot better, but  I still feel I should be doing them.

5 miles at 9:00mm pace today. All very easy but still sweating excessively. Hoping to get out early tomorrow, so I am back before it is to hot.


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