sub 4 hour group,if anyone wants to get together

Heh. Thanks for the cuddles. I like cuddles.

At the weekend on my very actual birthday, I am going for a parkrun with Basey's son and Basey will be helping at it, and also my brother, Cicerunner. I am so very excited and it is helping me to recover from my horrible HORRIBLE day. Then I will have birthday tea with chocolate cake and the bumps at Basey's house too. =)

One colleague at work got so very cross because I wrote someone else's name instead of hers on a rota, and she got so cross and I said I was sorry and tried to sort of jolly her along and laugh her out of it, but she frowned and said that I had really hurt her feelings. It sounds so silly written down, but I really hate offending people by mistake.

Then I helped in someone's class yesterday because they were ill and put up a gorgeous display and when they came back today they didn't even say thank you and they had pulled the display all down. And I only put it up because I thought it would make them smile to see all the lovely work that that children had done it was so super. I suppose the lesson is that you shouldn't try to take over, people don't like it. Moop. That's all the rubbish things.

But it's still nearly my birthday!

sounds like the people at your school - especially the two who were horrid to you!! really - any teacher would be grateful of a display put up in the class room....

gosh teachers - I remember it well- and its a very long half term ... only week and three days to go Ickle... sod them and their horridness... 

what I meant was sounds like they need a slap!!

Yes... sometimes all good intentions are not met with quite the response we expect... miserable people...

Glorious club run tonight - nice and easy on 10 day marathon legs, sharp 5.2 miles at 7:43 pace with a mile warm up. Seem to be back to normal - but don't want to tempt fate...

True, Susan. Duly slapped. Heh.

Well done D the F. I went to pump this evening and ran five miles yesterday. All good fun! Well done us.

Morning all

Race reports Great reports all. Sorry to anyone who wanted one from me, but there was not a lot of drama (that sounds bad as well)

Scott- Its normal to feel a bit flat after a marathon especially your first. Enter another race. I would suggest a 10K I set my PB 6 weeks after a marathon by just doing a bit of speed work. Endurance will not be an issue! (see coments from DTF) Great run DAVE

All booked for SA just got to train and pay for it now

hi all

oh ikle, thats not nice, sounds like you were just being nice too!

Poor Ikle... nasty people...I would send a hug but it is against my religion.

I had a weird week last week as my current job is a contract role due to end in 4 weeks. I was told a few weeks ago they were going to advertise the permanent role internally and via an agency and that they would like me to apply (all good stuff). I went to see the agent to discuss my wish to apply and she put me on shortlist (still good). About 3 weeks later I got told of interview which was to be held last Friday. I turn up to work and contact HR to see where interview is only to be told that interviews cancelled and no new date set as role being reassessed!! (not so good). They did say sorry for not telling me before but it was all very last minute!! I am due to meet my boss this Friday for a "probationary review". Normally after 6 months in a role you have a review  to see if you stay in the role!!?? I have been here 11 months and only have a few weeks to go. The words piss up in a brewery spring to mind!!

Martin, ouch, south africa. will be awesome though. and a great holiday too after. I may be after some tips for Feb.

Hey Wabo, how is you? And Umbongo, sounds unfair. Hope it sorts something.

Ikle, hope you're having a better day today. give em a slap. some people just aren't grateful. One of the nicest things the other day at Liverpool marathon on the water station, someone stopped, asked for me by name, gave me a big hug and said thanks. I had no idea who they were ! Think I suggested something for an injury.  So some people are grateful.

Scott its only natural you're a bit down. you peaked for something big and all done now. doh.  Book something. 4-6 weeks after is ideal to get PBs, thats what Howard suggested to me last year, same as Martin above. You've got the marathon juice / endurance for awhile without having to do much, just tick over. Last year 4-7 weeks after I pb-ed at half marathon and 10k, 4 mins off both. This year in the 2-5 weeks after, PBs at 10k, 10 mile and 5k but it was tiring. Wouldn't do quite as much next time.

Speed session last night. ugh. never easy. sprinting one half of a street loop, recovering on the other, x 10, plus w/u, c/d. and my normal 4m to club. all around 2 minutes for 0.38mile though, a couple a fraction off sub 5 minute pace for 600m, not too shabby especially with legs still a bit tired. League 10k at Caernarvon on Sunday.

Actually question for club runners Susan, AH, Wabo, DtF,actually everyone here. Last race, one of club sat on my shoulder for one and a half laps of two laps, zero help, zero taking share of duties then sprinted off last 10metres, just felt like he was racing me rather than other club runners. I ran a race with someone else earlier in the year, more experienced and we did swap, encourage each other. Whats the norm? Should we be double teaming it, work together like I thought? Or...

FRC- Think I may be entering a 40 in south wales late Feb if your interested. Not good if your running with someone else even if you dont know them should share duties . I always do

Umbongo= True but do you want to stay

10 miles this morning was terrible. Its strange how a bad run just comes from no where. At least I have learned just to accept it and move on

FRC - re: club... there is certainly quite a bit of rivalry in the club particularly with the quicker guys. However I don't think they'd be too scheming! I'll find out in December when we have a big local 10k to contest.

afternoon all, not much to report, contemplating what races to get booked in to do next, still hoping for a club place for London..

hi all

umbongo that does indeed sound just as you said, hope all is ok

hey frc, I am good, slowly building up the running and trying to keep injury free!

martin so true about terrible runs, you just chalk it up to experience I guess!

scott, mmm I am wondering do I want a club place if I can get? Not sure I do!

Cycling and running at the moment into work and ticking all at about 20plus miles a week. I have a 21 mile hilly Grindleford Gallop March 9th next year as my next race, a tough off road, trail, fields, stiles and hills race........will be just get round in one piece event I suspect. Race is held near where I live, infact goes through my village in the Peak District. Recommend it if you like a Saturday race and a day to recover before work Monday.....run most of this course in training and going to do most of it again over the winter to build up some hillwork, there are some serious hill climbs about four in all. There is site with photos of the course if anyone interested. 
Not part of a club......but I have run in races next to shoulders of folk but they usually run off and leave me at the finish. Guess sharing the load is good if you are good enough.

Great club run tonight... took advantage of the fact that one of the quicker guys who is doing Abingdon was taking it easy so ran with him for a bit then pushed on 2 miles in. 3rd mile in 7:19 and continued pushing for the remaining 2 miles so much so that I was the first back to the club... that will probably never happen again!

Hello all,

Well done Scott & Martin, Jovi & FRC (.... and anyone else... I read back but I'm getting old & forgetful!). What was Mablethorpe like Martin? How was the wind? Support? Atmosphere in general?

Scott, my dog came from Boston. We went up there to get him. Interesting place. 

Carboloading for Abo at the moment. Hmm. On the one hand, frankly I am lardy enough (due to the Summer Of Pie and Sofa) and on the other hand, I need all the help I can get! Caffeine gels arrived today.

Did I say that my last long run was meant to be 20 miles but was 17 because I was so slow and we had to go somewhere for lunch so I ran out of time! (I did do a 3 miler that evening, but basically the longest run I've done sort of continuously is 18 miles hem hem ). 

 The beginners have all been doing well. We started with nearly 30 but still have about half that coming. Given we hoped we might get as many as 10 at the start...! I saw two today doing their practice while I was walking the dogs and they called me "teach" (!). My fellow "jog leader" turns out to be v.g. at demonstrating stretches (phew). We've been very lucky in that we've had "helpers" too who have been real stars. No-one has yet disappeared up the A34 slip road, yay! 

My Keen Colleague has had his first running injury. Concussion, whiplash, eight stitches... yes, he ran into a pole headfirst. Yikes!  

Plans for next year shifting vaguely. Possibly not the brightest idea to go & do Rome 2 weeks after Malta so maybe not, hey.  You know how you think idly of making vast improvements when you're as wide as a mile and trundle along the roads like a tractor at harvest time? That's me right now. So keep up the running talk peeps.

 Ickle, poo. Tough job, teaching, Come over to the happy world of IT... admittedly we do all have weak glutes on account of all the sitting!

Right - must get early nights. Will make up for not having trained ...!