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12/11/2012 at 20:51
Fancypants reporting for dutee ((Ikle)).

DtF, that's a rigged photo! Those people are doing Edinburgh half... I recognise the logo. Hence the blurred out tops. Naughty.

Does a meet up have to mean some sort of event? AH or Ikle posted something in Cornwall I think in Sept. There is also Thunder Run. We could drink booze, BBQ and eat cake whilst Jovi runs past

Any inkling of a Xmas meet?
12/11/2012 at 20:54
Hi, anyone out there that has done a sub 3.30 marathon with no more than 3 runs per week ala the furman institute training plans. Would be really interested to hear peoples thoughts!
12/11/2012 at 21:45
Hi Rob this is a sub 4 hour thread and although some speedsters on here not sub 3. 30 yet .. Are there? Colin? FRC ?
12/11/2012 at 22:19

Dave - have had a look at that mara.  Wierd site.  No info at all about the course. Suppose they coudl make it more or less all flat but they have done a bournemouth mara in the past and they had to run up and down the overcliff which is quite major although maybe there isn't much of a cliff between B'mouth and Boscombe - not sure. What do you think?

Rob - Susan said what I thought.

Ikle I love your sound effects. "Thbbb"

12/11/2012 at 22:25

FRC - thanks for that link re cold water immersion.  The blog post was a bit imprenetrable but I'll listen to the podcast it's about and see if I can make any sense of it.

I think it's too early to notice any benefits to be honest. Certainly not sleeping well, but that's because of other things. I think I must be acclimatising to the temperatures though.

12/11/2012 at 23:13
Splutter. Susan. 3:28 at Edinburgh in May and aiming for 3:15 at VLM.
Doh, that was meant to be secret

Remember I owe you at least 2 drinks if we have a meet up.

I only run 3 times a week for that too. Rob, you would be better posting on Minni's 3:30 thread. But PM if you want.
12/11/2012 at 23:39
Thanks susan!

Frc - yep will pm. Really keen to understand if people have any unorthodox training plans that do not involve racking up miles irrespective of target time.
13/11/2012 at 04:14
It's all the rage, doing Sod All.
13/11/2012 at 07:38

4.14????

Trouble sleeping, Ikle?

Off for a swim.

 

13/11/2012 at 07:54
Less is more Rob, although I have never gone super sub 4 but I live up to my name!
13/11/2012 at 10:04

Rob - although I have done a lot of miles in the last 3 months generally I am a big fan of less is more - I ran an ultra off the back of only 25 miles a week.  Even in the lead up to marathons I've only twice done 50 miles a week and usually peak at 35 so by most training plans that is quite low.  I am a huge fan of the FIRST programme - three runs a week - they concentrate on quality over quantity so you do a speed session, a tempo session and a long run. Several of us on here have used it, Paces are quicker than some other training plans but you do a lot less miles.  They also suggest cross training but I've only ever done that one one schedule and usually I just stick to the running bit. Re whether you can do less is more ie 3 runs a week for sub a sub 3:30 I'd definitely say yes! I've done a few sub 4s now and can def recommend the plan. I just did 3:36 this weekend (on the comeback from injury trail - see below) and would am confident I would have cracked the sub 3:30 in April at VLM had I not broken my foot and ended up at A&E at halfway! They do one thats for people who've done several marathons but that is basically just more mileage so I always stick to the beginners plan one. Here's the link:  http://marathon.harvard.edu/images/first_first.pdf

Edited: 13/11/2012 at 10:08
13/11/2012 at 10:11

I can definitely recommend the Thunder Run as a good meet up. Entries are open for it now - I'm back with my old team in 2013 - can't wait.  

mcs
13/11/2012 at 11:09

Thunder Run..........interested.  a chap on another Forum ran solo this year and did over 100 miles Taffy. Anybody know him. Ex army I believe. He has been injured since though so not recommending a solo effort.
Leg working time. Starting a 16 week training schedule for a race on 9th March a 21miler.....Grindleford Gallop and its very hilly all round the edges of Derbyshire above Chatsworth, recommend you check out the photos on their site.  Used the smart coach on here.........so many to choose from, but had to choose a marathon one. Unless anyone has any other briliant ideas?

At least I will go sub four on a 21 mile hilly fell race!! Hopefully!!

13/11/2012 at 11:55

Re: Bournemouth Marathon - I'm surprised it's even going ahead next year it was only mentioned a few weeks ago. This is possibly why the website is slightly unhelpful and contains misleading photos and no course map. Perhaps they're still figuring the route out - Hengistbury Head to Sandbanks and back would almost do it... and it'd be flat!

In true Ikle fashion my summing up of todays weather is pfft - a kind of nothing day, grey, mild, damp and uninspiring - at least the thermals can stay in the drawer for another few days.

So AH - Gosport Half? What's your plan... trotting or racing? I am thinking more in the lines of a race (bit of rivalry going on at the club) so will start off at 7:45 pace which should be good for 1:41 ish. However I fully expect to blow up after 10 miles, so will see what happens!

I am due to be doing Thunder Run next year with a friend and some others... who else up for this?

mcs
13/11/2012 at 12:03

I would be up for a turn out depending on dates when is it?

13/11/2012 at 12:28

Thunder Run is July 27/28th.

DtF we already have one team of 7-8, likely 2 teams next year since some want definite option of doing 5 laps or more. Gives us the flexibility that some people can do 2 laps, and then enjoy beer/ booze & food. Others get to run 4-6.

Worked out £40 each including all food & BBQ, 3 days camping is included already in price. We also have a South African BBQ expert on our team. V important

Not sure if Rob is still reading about furst/ sub 3:30, but Jovi does have a great fitness base, 15 marathons? Proved that by being able to get straight back into 30 miles at Thunder Run after 6-8 weeks out with injury. She is a Machine! Everyone is different though. One of our Thunder Run team runs 80-90 miles a week, as against my 25-35 miles.

mcs re: training plan - are you in a club? Are you in the Asics 6 thing for Paris or chance of it?

Realised, I should've kept mouth shut about doing sub 3:30... saved myself a round of drinks and one for Susan too. Had you forgotten the "buff" tip?

13/11/2012 at 15:05

mcs - a girl who used to post on here - xcrunner (then had a fairy name - you lot know who I mean) - I think did the Grindleford Gallop and lived in that neck of the woods.  Wonder where she is. She was aiming for a half ironman this summer I think. Scary to think a 16 wk prog for a race in March starts now!

Dave - def trotting.  I just haven't done enough running since Outlaw and my legs feel battered after every run.  I feel sure Sunday will be a PW but I don't really care. After it I think I just need to get my ability to run maybe four or five days a week going.  So undecided about what sort of prog to follow for Brighton. Not htat I've really thought about it all TBH.

 

 

mcs
13/11/2012 at 16:57

No club.......but family run though all bit slower than me so tend to run alone alot. Followed schedules from RW and P and D the last three years and improved alot. Just need another 8 minutes off to make it......time to don the head torch and stagger home again, just a gentle jog after quick miles this morning. 

13/11/2012 at 17:11

I've always fancied the THunder Run.

 

14/11/2012 at 08:04

Long time no post!

Jovi and Martin - wow wow wow - not sure how you keep just throwing out these marathons, much respect to you. It's amazing how far you can come with some grit, determination and training.

AH - not sure if I have already said but I really enjoyed your blog, you are very talented  I still think you're highly crazy with your swimming but hardcore!

MCS - I have done Grindleford for the last 3 years as I live not too far from there, will enter again at some point this week. Gradually getting faster each year, maybe going for 3.30 next time if I can get my act into gear! Have you ever thought of doing the Edale Skyline? That's a hard course, tougher than a marathon I'd say.

I was running along quite nicely as my mojo finally returned with vengeance until I got proper "woman flu". Think I really needed a good rest after the Bullock and my body was cross with me. Got a 10 mile road race in a few weeks which is not something I am looking forward to but good training for a half in January and then back to the fells again  

Do we have dates for a xmas meet up yet?

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