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11/12/2012 at 09:11
Sorry WT, got my Maths wrong! sums based on 1:24 not 1:19 new time.

1:40-1:43 more like it?

Sorreee, distracted by cats and names.
11/12/2012 at 09:19
Fit-Running-Cat wrote (see)
Cicero, hope you get the all clear. Have you done a half yet? I forget. Why the reduced mileage but still racing 5k, 5m, 10k? Injury problem or TRS suggestion?
10 milers are perfect, midway between 10k and half for confidence ... 

Not exactly all clear, further investigations required, but I did get confirmation that running is not causing or aggravating. Thanks [Nothing too serious I expect, kidneys/prostate or something similar.]

I have done a couple of halfs, both in 2010 though. First 1:38, second in June that year when knees finally gave way to ITB problems. I barely ran again in 2010 due to ITB or in 2011 due to sciatica. [As posted recently I've entered a HM in April 2013.]

My recent mileage was tapering up from my restart in February 2012. TRS required that I did some focussed technique work which reduced mileage in Steptember a little and significantly in October. Mid October was also when health problem occurred. General parenting tiredness affected November! So the fact that the race schedule isn't matched by appropriate training is mainly because I entered the races in advance (in advance of signing up for TRS too) and then wasn't able to continue the schedule I had in mind.

Fit-Running-Cat wrote (see)
what pace you stay at... 

Not sure if that is a question or if it is intended for me? If for me, my typical easy run pace is between 4:45 and 5:00 / km. Or was it more a comment on 10 mile being a good pace setting distance before stepping up to a HM attempt?

Edited: 11/12/2012 at 09:19
11/12/2012 at 09:29

Well this morning's run that I was so looking forward to (see) didn't go as well as I'd hoped. Ran 7.6k in 39 minutes which is fine, but final 1.6k / mile accounted for about 10 minutes of that. At 6k what felt suspiciously like ITB related knee pain started. I slowed a little and then returned to normal pace. No joy. Slowed to a jog. Nope. Walked for quite a bit and then managed to find a jog / run pace that was low pain enough for me to get home. I would certainly have stopped sooner if I'd been closer to home.

At the moment I'm hoping it's just a glitch. We'll see when I run again on Thursday.

11/12/2012 at 10:16

Cicero Hope the knee is okay, my left knee has been sore on the front but not affected my running, just sore to get going then okay.

11/12/2012 at 10:38

HI all, I suddenly realise that I really should be getting some sort of schedule going!! Am thinking of picking one and doing week one for the next 3 weeks to get the ball rolling, plan??

hope all the knees are ok mcs and cicero and anyone else!

11/12/2012 at 10:42

Hey guys, hoping to go sub 4 for my first marathon in the spring... Hopefully can pick up some good advice from you lot!

F-R-Cat - any decision yet on the name yet? I vote Larry...

Cicero - Hopefully it is just a glitch - ITB doesn't sound pleasant. Is it something you've suffered with for  a while? I had plantar fasciitis a couple of years back and that took months to shift!

mcs - you too! Take it easy

11/12/2012 at 12:56
Oh BUM. In other news, tomorrow's race is looking unlikely as throat is getting worse not better...
11/12/2012 at 12:59

oh thats not good ikle

11/12/2012 at 15:26

Get gargling with some strong to night you might be okay in the morning Ikle.....get well soon.

11/12/2012 at 15:35

Gargling good plan. Sat morning I was so desparate I did it with only minimal suggestion and making of by Basey! And lemon and honey. Bletch.

11/12/2012 at 19:09
In other news, I am in agony! Play fighting with mini me on Saturday, Mrs D was holding my arms and mini me took a swing at me, catching me a corker in the right nipple, result a cracked rib! Can't sleep, sit, stand or move, oh, and staying still is no fun either!
12/12/2012 at 00:05

steve l b, no not recently. My 2012 running has been characterized by being injury free. I had ITB problems in 2010 when I was doing (relatively) high mileage. Subsequent to that I had orthotics fitted and this year I had assumed they were doing their stuff, although it's hard to know just what the relevant factors are since so many things have changed since 2010.

At the moment I'm working on the assumption it's a glitch and possibly that my shoes are near the end of their life. I know there's a rule of thumb on mileage per pair of shoes, but can anyone explain (or provide a link showing) just how you physically inspect/test a shoe to find out if it's worn out?

I'm currently using a 500 miles per pair rule of thumb and the two pairs I'm using now have 400 and 450 miles on them ... You know, now I've typed that out loud it suddenly seems very likely the shoes are the issue. It was the 450's that I was wearing today. I've a new pair ready to go ... I think I'll try one more run in the 450's to ascertain if it was a one off glitch and if it recurs swap to my new shoes and take it from there.

12/12/2012 at 09:11

The asics team at Birmingham last year said if you can twist the front of your shoe while holding the heel with the other hand then your shoes are probably shot. I tend to use mine longer though due to money saving. I have two pair of Kayanos on the go both are just coming up to one year old next month but because I keep swapping every time I run I reckon I can get more miles out of them. One pair must have 700 miles on them now the others 450 or so. I have done 1350 miles since Jan 1st. Hope you feel better soon...... sale time coming up buy a couple of new pairs and start again in the New Year.

12/12/2012 at 09:53

I was just about to say the same as mcs - they said exactly the same thing this year - twistability is not a good sign! The rule of thumb really is just that and it heavily depends on the individual runner... the physio said that she goes through shoes every 300 miles or so but some people can run 6-700 miles in theirs and not have any probs.

Guess it also depends on what kind of shoe you've got - as mine are stability control, they've got a lot more support so are less likely to twist to begin with!

Another thing I also found out was the benefit of getting my pronotation checked on a more regular basis - I had it re-done there and the shoes I've got, whilst being the right ones for me when I bought them and had my pronation checked, aren't now. Apparently my leg muscles have built up and I now pronate less than I used to - my shoes are now too controlling and I get a blister on one of my insteps! Given what you've said about using orthotics, it could also be a possibility that the orthotics may need re-checking...? No idea if that is possible, just thinking out loud...

12/12/2012 at 13:12

Hope its gone well WENDY. An easy one! We will see

Good to see lots of new faces

Hope all are well, just had what can only be called a very boring run. I would not recomend a half marathon on a tread mill  but its done I was walm and at least my pace was controlled. Highest miles for the year now achieved 1175 so can least average a 100 mile a month for the year

12/12/2012 at 13:23

afternoon all

scott ohblimey what a nightmare

hope wendy is doing ok

martin a half marathon on a treadmill! You deserve a trophy for that!

This year I reckon is my lowest mileage. Oh I will find out Tuesday if I have a club place for vlm or not, 3 of us go into a ballot for 2 tickets!



12/12/2012 at 13:36


12/12/2012 at 13:53

Can I put my name in that hat please??? A half on a tread mill thats horrid I managed a 10k once it was awful.

12/12/2012 at 17:15

Wabo, sounds like good odds for VLM.

Martin, half on a treadmill, I would just die with boredom. Actually I hate treadies, really bad for calfs & my tendonitis. Much prefer road or better yet trail.

I'm a little ahead of you on the mileage, might just get 1700-1750 for the year.

Hope Wendy going well, the 12 in 12, 12/12/12 thing, presumeably starting at 12:12pm.

Cicero, hope you're okay, the pace bit wasn't for you, it was more for WT but still useful to you. I did a 10k and a 10 miler consecutive weeks this year, so went nearly as fast, maybe 5-7 seconds slower per mile. Do a half, same again so 15 seconds up per mile (upto 20 is general rule of thumb).

Spent an hour slipping around with club doing 10 hills sessions last night, more like ice station zebra with shouts of Ice! on corners.

Name choosen for new cat.. Black & white little boy, huge paws, a bit of tuxedo front and batman sort of face, lovely and very friendly... just we were stuck on a name.

 Say hello to Stanley!  and here 


12/12/2012 at 19:49
Stanley good. Stan Laurel one of my heroes... I have my 2nd TRS session tomorrow. Exciting. Finally feeling better hoorah just a snotty cold now. 10k got cancelled this evening due to ice!
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