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12/12/2012 at 22:43
Matin, if you do fabcy going for a run, drop mme a line......
12/12/2012 at 22:51

just a short pop on as I;m cream crackered and just off to bed. Very very very pleased with how it went today - a new PB and I have finally cracked the sub 3;30 - it's like a huge weight has lifted from my shoulders and I now feel I can just relax and enjoy whatever time I now get having achieved my goal. 3:29:52 and a frantic last 100m sprint for the line - collapsing over it as they shouted out my time. Legs starting to seize up after the long bus journey back from Milton Keynes.

If I hadnt got injured todays race would have been my 12th marathon in 2012 on 12/12/12. Have managed 6 in the end so that is still sort of symetrical!

Will read back tomorrow - off to the land of nod. zzzzzzz

Edited: 12/12/2012 at 22:53
13/12/2012 at 06:59
I bet the last hundred metres were well exciting! Gosh wow u r my inspiration Jovi Girl.
13/12/2012 at 07:29
Amazing Jovi !
13/12/2012 at 09:04

Oh Jovi I can completely relate to the weight off shoulders thing.  Silly isn't it? But very real.  That's what 3.59.59 is for me.  Enjoy it!  And fantastic to have done so many in one year.

13/12/2012 at 09:05

Oh well. Today's attempt at an easy run - 6.68k, 34:33 - but knee pain and some walking again. From around 5k this time. Started a regime of foam roller on outer thighs - 4 minutes per leg, twice a day.

In the end I put on my new shoes* so that magical fix didn't work. As regards twisting the shoes to identify them being worn out; I tried twisting all three pairs - 400 miles, 450 miles and the new ones - and to be honest they were all equally hard to twist ... so none the wiser there. I don't think that my shoes are necessarily worn out, or even if they are not directly the cause of the problem, rather that I've now accumulated enough mileage on my feet since starting running again in February - about 400 miles as it happens - that ITB has become a problem again.

Iklebutn Miles wrote (see)
I have my 2nd TRS session tomorrow. Exciting. Finally feeling better hoorah just a snotty cold now.

Hope it goes really well ikle. Catch up soon offline x


* By the way, regarding shoes, they are Brookes Adrenaline GTS 8 (400 miles), GTS 9 (450 miles) and GTS 11 (new). So a "stability" shoe I think - I'm a serious over-pronator.

Edited: 13/12/2012 at 09:09
13/12/2012 at 09:36

ikle you're absolutely right about the 16 weeks starting on 24th.

Ooh we've got some new smileys: etc. Nice touch.

13/12/2012 at 13:01

Congrats to Jovi brilliant run, my dream is 3.59.59 too so can imagine how happy you are with 3.29 well done.

Had a five mile hilly cross country to work this morning and boy cold here minus six or seven as I came in, the river was steaming as I came over the bridge in Bakewell...... office is just about got up to 22.......just put up a bird feeder on the office window to feed the blue tits which are gathering as I type. Dont know how they survive in this weather. I am on week four of my 16 week schedule race day March 9th......get training folks there is no where to hide on the start line!!

13/12/2012 at 14:10

mcs, birds don't get cold! I have to keep telling myelf this when I'm seeing swans doing headstands in the river by my flat. You are good with all your running. I haven't done any this week at all owing to my cold. Hope TRS session tonight doesn't kill me. Might cut it short if I feel weird.

13/12/2012 at 21:16
This evening I was mainly running like a pony! Great fun. Have a blood shot eye though and a headache from so much coughing... bletch.
13/12/2012 at 21:24

Hi Jovi, nice to meet you! Massive congratulations on on the new PB - sub 3:30 is a massive milestone! Going for my first this spring and hoping for anything sub 4:00.

Cicero - hmm... difficult to know what to make of it! Although, as I said, my shoes are really not very twistable either - I think that trick only works for people with 'normal' pronation and have support shoes! Do you have a physio you can see? (Not the cheapest of ways of finding out, I'll admit!)

mcs - man, that is cold! We've dipped below freezing a few times but not sure it has got that cold! One of the few benefits of Essex!

Ikle - hope the cold gets better!

13/12/2012 at 23:36
Jovi, fab time, I wasn't sure you would be able to peak for this, especially so soon after Frostbite 30, but what do I know. Amazing time and a great finish to the year for you after early frustrations. So happy for you. Race report needed - then what's next target? Apart from a certain ultra...

Cicero, maybe going too fast too soon for your body? I spent a long time 6-9 months doing slow miles, and tons of gym. It's not fun, but given me a solid foundation to work from being injured for 18-24 months. No such thing as a magic shoe though, problem elsewhere surely?

AH is perfect person to talk to though. From previous expert Henny advice, you can't really roll ITB, but can other areas likely tight, glutes, TFL and anywhere tight. TRS not spotted anything?

Mcs, jeez. That is cold. Zero here, and windchill taking it lower but not -7.
I had 4 layers on tonight, cold. Good 10 miles in, some with club, buff over mouth.

Ikle, tell us more about pony running!

League race Sunday near Chester, 5-6 miles, then running back with pals to nearby with Sausage butties waiting for us... might get first 20 of the VLM campaign in. Hope it warms up. Good weekend all.
14/12/2012 at 13:29

Ducks have special legs to keep the cold out apparently read about it IKLE.....
Wet wet wet here this am. First thing icy now wet....Ugh....Happy Friday and have a good weekend if you are racing.



14/12/2012 at 13:33

You too mcs - got any races planned?

14/12/2012 at 13:45

Follow this link Steve for our thread races.

If you have some and you are staying around send me your races and I will add them in. Not received the bacon yet You off to London this weekend for the Asics thing?


14/12/2012 at 13:58

I'd love to stay around

I haven't got any booked at the mo - was kind of in limbo whilst the comp was running so I'm going to get down to booking a few in January... once I've seen what Sam has in store for me! There is one race in April I'm doing...

Yes, can't wait - am hopefully going to be updating on Twitter all day (@Steve_Waites), hopefully with a few pics, and I'll post on here about it once I'm back - are we expected to set up new threads or do we stick with the voting ones??

14/12/2012 at 14:03

Sorry I've not been around much but I saw Jovi's news on Facebook and just wanted to say well done Jovi, brilliant the queen of the thread - fantastic or in the word(s) of Craig Revell-Horwood "A-MAZ-ING" Congratulations!!!

14/12/2012 at 14:30

Wednesday's race report - not super exciting so feel free to skip past!


My main aim at the outset was to use as this race a training run for my February ultra and my sub 3:30 attempt in the Spring - ie run to 20 miles at 8 min/miling and then slow down and take the final 6.2m steady to get in just under 3:45.

The weather was sunny but absolutely baltic at the outset - plenty of layers required - even Milton Keynes looked picturesque on the morning of the race with the trees around the lake all white with hoar frost and the lake frozen - very Christmas card scenic.  I set off at 8 min/miling on the first of the 8 laps and felt a little sluggish but as the race went on I started to feel much better and the pace felt nice and steady.  The course is pretty flat but quite twisty which does mean you have to concentrate in parts - otherwise you could find yourself running straight into the lake!  Despite the course being mainly good footpath or hard packed grass and the ground being frozen solid, on the first lap I somehow managed to find the one section of non frozen mud and my foot disappeared into it up to mid calf - thankfully I then knew to skirt around that section on the subsequent laps.  As there were only 40 runners I ran pretty much on my own with only my trusty ipod (and Jon Bon Jovi) to keep me company.  If only he'd been there in person I might have run even faster

I got to the halfway point in a shade under 1:44 and felt really good. Little to report for the next 7 miles  - I speeded up a little and got to 20 miles at just under 2:39 so had a little in hand in the 8 minute miling.  For once I also felt surprisingly good at this point so decided I may as well stick with the pace for as long as I could. I remember suddenly feeling super energetic and looking at my splits post race spotted I did mile 21 in 7:39!  I slowed a little after that.  In the last mile I suddenly worked out that unless I slowed a lot more I might just sneak in under 3:30.  As I came round the last bend I could see my watch said 3:29 but without my glasses not how many seconds over 3:29 - there was nothing for it - although it's a slight uphill finish I gritted my teeth, and as they say on Marathon Talk - I zipped up the mansuit - and sprinted as if my life depended on it.  I wasn't sure where the finish line actually was and I kept going until I heard the race director shout out my time - 3:29:52 - collapsing in an immediate heap of exhaustion!   I finished 1st lady and 6th overall. Only about 40 runners but as they say - you got to be in it to win it!   Just about time for a quick shower, change of clothes and a dash to catch the bus back up North - with just the 4 hours to sit on the coach and seize up - I grinned all the way home - my fellow passengers probably thought I was mad!  I had at last achieved a goal I have had for at least the last two years.  I think the endurance I've gained by doing several marathons close together is what worked on the day - that and perhaps I'd set off without putting any pressure on myself for a PB.  As I said in a previous post - I feel like a huge wieght has lifted from my shoulders and I can now relax and enjoy any future marahtons.  If I go quicker, great but if not I won't be too bothered as I now feel I've achieved one of my long held ambitions. then again, one of my OH first comments on telling him my time was - when will you be trying for sub 3:15.....I really musn't even think about that.  A couple of easier months of no marathons now before my assault on another ultra in February.

Edited: 14/12/2012 at 14:39
14/12/2012 at 19:40
Thanks Howard. Still in a sort of shock & can't quite believe I did it
14/12/2012 at 19:59
Jovi why so shocked ? We all knew you could do it. I'm sure you were above that split half way at London even slightly crocked at mile 12, approx 1:40-42 half way point?

Only getting time you deserved. You have come back amazingly well. Great endurance base, marathons & ultras acting as long runs?

Mcs, Didn't realise we were sticking races in a spreadsheet...hmmm. When did that happen?

Bargain for the ladies on here, Boston 3 Adidas speedy shoes are on sale for ??30 & 50 quid, bargain, click here.
Nb you will need 1/2-1 size bigger than normal.

And no Jovi no clicking you are fast enough!
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