sub 4 hour group,if anyone wants to get together

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03/03/2013 at 23:34

Yes, Rosa is my elder daughter: in her final semester at Uni. Fortunately she has finished her exams but still has two huge pieces of course work to do. Also her plans for next year involved staying around Sheffield: i'm not sure she'll want to do that now as her ex is returning from a sandwich year in France to complete his fourth year. Too many reminders .

04/03/2013 at 09:36
Well done Ikle. Good controlled half to plan.

Howard sorry to hear about Rosa. Running good news though

Khanivore. Great half time. Was that flat out? Ignore Garmin reading being long if that's what you mean. They aren't accurate.
As for sub 4. Maybe. There was a stats analysis on here and elsewhere that half to full conversion times were between 2.26-3 on people first marathon. On subsequent fulls then the ratio was more like 2.2.
On that scale you are just over by 2-8 minutes. But not impossible.

Nice 16 for me yesterday. Just had another PT session and feeling very glowing and invigorated. Lots of stretching and and strength work.
04/03/2013 at 09:42
Will see if I can find the article. So multiply your half time by that amount. So 107.75 x 2.3= 247 = 4:07.

K - How many 18-20s or 3 hour runs you done or planning?
04/03/2013 at 12:16

Khanivore - my HM time is 1:45 Full Marathon time of 3:45, I'd say you're on track (possibly...)

04/03/2013 at 13:37

Hi

been lurking for a week ot two

Got a Marathon planned for the 19th May (Windemere)

Dont know if i will be in shape for getting under 4h but will see how im running nearer the day.

was out for 2h25min Sunday (13.6 miles) after running for 1h46m (8.29miles) with Mrs Eskimo on the Saturday.

Khanivore - 1h47m is good but it all depends how many long runs you get in before the marathon. My marathon pb is 4h06m but a month after doing that time i did a 1h38m half (Not enougth stamina work but plenty of speed).

Last marathon was Chester (2011) which i took easy and finished in 4h 24min. Started of slow and did a negative split and actually ran all the way (first time in 13 marathons).

 

04/03/2013 at 14:36

Welcome Quinn. Any more info about yourself, male, female, rough age, a 10k time perhaps, you've done 13 marathons!

Is Windermere trail ? the two runs sounds good, fairly slow considering the 1:38 half - assume this isn't recent.

As for your 4:06 and 1:38 half soon after, you usually get a fitness boost after a marathon or ultra, all my PBs have been 2-7 weeks after.

I did 3:48 off 1:39 but that was half in March, marathon in Oct 2011 with 3 x 20s - remember that multiply by 2.3 - thats works exactly in this case. Next time I did a March 1:35 half and May full in 3:28 with 5 x 20s. Gotta get the long runs in to get the stamina. This time... No6 next Sunday

Edited: 04/03/2013 at 14:37
04/03/2013 at 15:19

The 1:38 half was done in 2000. Was a lot quicker in those days. Hopefully get somewhere close to those times again (only 43 now).

Not raced a lot recently (not since 2011) so got to get a couple in before windermere.

Windermere is all on the road. should be some nice views to keep the mind of the running. Saturday was a slow run with the wife with my proper long run on the Sunday.

Some good times there Fit-Running-Cat and good luck next Sunday

 

04/03/2013 at 16:24

afternoon all

hrr, good on the run front but sorry to hear about rosa, it is hard when they are not round the corner.

well done ikle!

khanivore nice half!!

oh is it home time yet...

welcome to you quinn

04/03/2013 at 19:11
Hi folks, I am back again! Managed a very chilly Bath Half in 1h 44min 59 seconds, I was aiming for sub1 45, but wasn't expecting to cut it so fine!
04/03/2013 at 19:42
I've done two 18 mile runs and 1 20 mile run, I plan to do a 20 mile runs and a 22 mile run before the marathon. Yes this felt flat out.
04/03/2013 at 19:48

Runningfeet - Blackminster half is a nice event - I've done it quite a few times. Flat, although a few undulations - the ones I remember are a bit of a drag at about 5 miles and then a particularly nasty incline right at the end of the 6 mile loopy-loop which always catches me out, and you get to do it twice.  Also it's over distance - you go straight past the last marker and think you've finished but there's still 100m or so to go. The thing that always amazes me is how fast the leaders are going - the speed us mere mortals run means we're bound to be lapped usually midway through the first 6 mile loopy...you here them it coming up behind you and then they zoom past at some speed.

 

Edited: 04/03/2013 at 19:48
04/03/2013 at 20:35

Hello! 

Like Eskimo I've also been lurking for awhile, I tend to come on when I'm not feeling like training and get a bit inspired by all your efforts. So thank you! 

I'm female, 27 and hoping for 4hoursish for the Brighton Marathon in a few weeks. I ran Bath Half on Sunday in 1:52:54, smashing 6 minutes off my last PB. Woohoo!

My longest run so far is 28km (17ish miles - I run in km..), this weekend I will be running 30.5km and I'm feeling pretty good about it! 

I need some advice though.. My hands are weirdly small (about 10 year old size according to the decathlon glove chart..) so I have been carrying a water bottle on my back with one of those belt things. It was fine up to about 20km, but now my  lower back is a mess of chaffe marks, especially after the extra sweaty effort on Sunday. Any solutions? 

04/03/2013 at 20:40
Hi ACoops, it was a chilly one in bath on sunday!
As for hydration, have you tried a camel back? Or for training runs, deposit drinks en route, that's what I do...
04/03/2013 at 20:52

hi ACoops, or a lady shape bottle carrier on the front maybe?  I have done a long run with a camelbak like scott said, works fine for me.  Nice half time!!!

I do get scared when I see some of the distances people are doing - on training thread and my running club, sticking to the schedule though

04/03/2013 at 20:53

It was! I took three cups of tea to defrost after. Brrrrr.

I have a camel pack, but don't wear it running because I can never get it to sit flat on my back, I think it's a bit big? I bought a women's one, but I think I probably fit more in to the child category.. do they make childrens camelpacks for running? 

I live in London so drink depositing is out. The foxes would definitely drink them before I had the chance  

04/03/2013 at 20:59

Wabo - I've never heard of a lady shape bottle carrier.. I will google!  

Thanks, re. the time. I was so wonderfully pleased. I'm definitely not doing the same distances as most and I'm only (I say this relatively..) running between 40 to 50km in total for the week? This is my first marathon so I'm just following a schedule the best I can and will see what happens!   

04/03/2013 at 21:07

What do people think about mini recovery along with mini taper? I mean, obviously I'm not running today, but should I resume business as usual tomorrow do we think? I'm a bit nervous about going back to full on training... My left leg aches at the front and my toes on my right foot are a bit of a bloody mess (not swearing!) But apart from that I feel fine...

04/03/2013 at 21:41

Runningfeet - Blackminster half is a nice event - I've done it quite a few times. Flat, although a few undulations - the ones I remember are a bit of a drag at about 5 miles and then a particularly nasty incline right at the end of the 6 mile loopy-loop which always catches me out, and you get to do it twice.  Also it's over distance - you go straight past the last marker and think you've finished but there's still 100m or so to go. The thing that always amazes me is how fast the leaders are going - the speed us mere mortals run means we're bound to be lapped usually midway through the first 6 mile loopy...you here them it coming up behind you and then they zoom past at some speed.  www.d2ride.co.uk  ZolaP - Good going at Kidderminster.  Did you see Wiggins and Froome apparently they were in the crowd.  Half way round we thought you would cave in but you looked full of beans in the home straight.  Coolio.  www.d2ride.co.uk

 

04/03/2013 at 22:23
Hello all new peeps... Glad some of you can work out what FRC posts are about, been reading them for months but my eyes go blurry then I don't understand

ACoops ... I have had the chafing thing with bottle belt. If you let it heal my advice is make sure it's snug when fitted and your shirt does not ruck up under it, if it starts to feel like its rubbing take the time to stop and adjust. I carry Vaseline that you can smear on for good measure on the day. I am doing Brighton along with Ickle and AH from this thread .. Although they will be in front of me ... Am aiming for sub 4.30 unless the weather is good and I have a miracle day. Have gone sub 4 once but don't do the hundreds of miles and speed work but it will be my 12 th ! Where in London are you ?
04/03/2013 at 22:31
ACoops, can't youleave drinks at friends houses? For training runs, you should be ok without a drink for around an hour.....
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