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06/11/2004 at 08:26
hi 3tl
06/11/2004 at 08:37
Hi imelda, hi hippo.

I've had a break since coming down with a massive virus a month before Paris marathon this year. It's been really difficult to run since then as I've both got married and launched a new company!

as to obsessions... the company i started gets masses of questions on ticklish celebrities, how to chat up women in the office, and jeff brazier (?) for some strange reason. Have a look here if you're interested!
06/11/2004 at 08:38
was gona ask if youd had the weddin
06/11/2004 at 08:38
The Evil Pixie    pirate
06/11/2004 at 08:40
obession and runners - nah can't see any link there!
Hi 3tl!

Well guys I'm not ready for Christmas but Oliver wants to make pressies so we are doing some trials this weekend of things like bath salts and bath bombs and hot chocolate mix!
should be messy and fun!
debbo    pirate
06/11/2004 at 08:48
Phew, making presents - I'm impressed. I didn't ever get into that with my 2 - must be a bad mother!

I have done some christmas shopping though and even done some cards (only because my parents were here from canada for a visit and it saved me the overseas postage)

Hippo - good luck for Stevenage!
06/11/2004 at 08:50
Imelda & Pix - No, they are the wrong training paces for you.
If you use McMillan's calulator your must put in your best recent race result and from that use the training paces given. When/if you then do a faster race time put that in and use the new training paces.

If you use paces that are aimed at a faster runner you will be doing your key sessions (ie long runs) at too fast a pace. This will not build your base aerobic pace but it will make you very tired and possibly injured.

Start with the correct training paces, do a few key races during training, maybe a 10 miler, a half marathon and a 20 miler, then you can guage your progress and amend training paces accordingly.

I used the paces on McMillan faithfully for a period in 2003, after a month I ran my 3rd fastest marathon ever (out of 100)and I actually took it easy on the way round, it felt so comfortable.
06/11/2004 at 08:52
ok, will look for myself now
The Evil Pixie    pirate
06/11/2004 at 08:53
thanks shades
06/11/2004 at 08:56
someone post a link

its irrelevant for me really, (base thingie)
The Evil Pixie    pirate
06/11/2004 at 08:57
M...eldy    pirate
06/11/2004 at 09:00
Thanks Shades was just looking backwards from a preferred finish time to see if it would work? Have looked at Macmillan before and will use it when I am back up to fitness again!
06/11/2004 at 09:06
thats between 10.5 at worst, and 14 min miles

I cant atually run 14mm, im walking then
steady run is 11.5

thats about right for me
06/11/2004 at 09:10
Hippo - I'm going to use a combination of BT and McMillan's paces for my winter training.

I'm going to do a Hadd test and then set those HR's to the various paces on McMillan. won't be doing any fast sessions for a while though, but it will give me some variety and measure of progress whilst building up the miles(hopefully).
06/11/2004 at 09:12
I just put in my time from the 3k race I did into the RW Calculator and it says:

easy run:11.43 (okay but would prefer 12.00)
tempo run: 9.49 (I think too fast)

VO2 Max: 8.53 ( yes I can't go very far at this pace)

Speed Form: 8.14 (eekk)

Long Run: 11.43 to 13.09 (the right pace for me)

Yasso's: 4.33 (does this mean I can do a 4.33 marathon, I think not!!).

Wonder where RW got their calculations from?

06/11/2004 at 09:13
Ill be doing one work sesssin , maybe two a week, and the rest easy base runs

and i do have to do my long runs, but pantie syas not to do over 2.5 hours
I suppose with my race prog Ill be doing over distance runs, ha ha
06/11/2004 at 09:13
RW Calculator is way out for me. I don't use it.
06/11/2004 at 09:14
3TL welcome: don't the Brits obsess about the weather :)))
06/11/2004 at 09:15
just off to input my half mara time
06/11/2004 at 09:44
How do you work out your pace when you are actually running?
I haven't done much running this week, mostly due to husband's shifts. His shifts are better this week though so I should be able to get out most days - won't be doing much distance though, probably just 30 - 60 mins.

Looking forward to Paula's marathon tomorrow.

see ya, tiny
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