Sub 5 hours - Page 28 - Spring Marathon

Ultracat

16/11/2004 at 08:34

hippo, if you can do 11 min miling you will make it in 4.48 so that means you have 12 mins at mile 18. You have now ran 18 miles without stopping and walking so thats a real big improvement, so just have to keep running for the last 8 miles. If I had a sure fire way of achieving this I would tell you considering I haven't run all the way in a marathon yet either I would like a strategy too.

Shades everyone gave their best advice.

Plodding Hippo

16/11/2004 at 08:35

ahem
er yes
But that 18 took 3.36
Or possibly 3.34, watch stopped

next stop 20 with no walking

Ultracat

16/11/2004 at 08:53

"next stop 20 with no walking" sounds like a strategy to me,

as London gets nearer I guess folks will have more of an idea of their fitness and till then just have to keep running the best we can.

Shades how is the training going for the 24 hour race?

Plodding Hippo

16/11/2004 at 08:55

thats at my next event---a 30 miler in january

Ultracat

16/11/2004 at 09:16

Well if you make the 20 miles in january then you could think about 21 miles for the next ultra and so on.

My next strategy is to run all the way in my half marathon on Sunday after my not so good 10 miler a couple of weeks ago where I ended up walking up the hills a bit too much:((

Plodding Hippo

16/11/2004 at 09:19

22 in the feb ultra

NOT good ultra tactics
but hey!

Josie Jump.

16/11/2004 at 10:13

Morning all

A very reluctant 3m this morning
11:31
11:14
11:43
147 bpm for the whole lot.

not too bad for the day after a hard.

Some horrible little sh£t has graffitti'd all over the beautiful trees on my next to school route. It really upset me this morning as I usually find the run through the woods very theraputic. It's all ruined now :-(

rjh

16/11/2004 at 10:22

hey there....new to rw and have been running on and off for 2 years, have 6mnth old baby and now manage two 40 min sessions each week. do you think its feasible to train now for flm and go for a golden bond place? feel like a challenge but is this a bit pie in the sky?

SHADES

16/11/2004 at 10:26

Jane - haven'r really started in earnest yet, have a marathon on Sunday. Have drawn up a training plan to the end of Jan, so starting next Monday weekly mileage will be as follows:-
50
60
70
80
90
100
80
70
50 (incl race)
i don't normally taper but at this high mileage I think I need to.
Plans for Xmas are run, eat, sleep, run eat, sleep etc

Josie Jump.

16/11/2004 at 10:35

RJH

Hi there :-)

I don't think it's impossible but you probably wouldn't enjoy it as 6 month old babies are the equivelent of marathon training in them selves :-)

Personally I'd pick a nice half marathon in your area in the spring, train for and run that, then decide if you want to move up to the full marathon in 2006.

Please feel free to post on here even if you decide to leave the marathon till 2006. You will still be marathon training but starting sensibly early :-)

JJ
Mum of 2 (6 and 3) :-)

P.s. I started back running when my youngest was 6 mths.

Josie Jump.

16/11/2004 at 10:40

Shades

Just out of interest, how do you do 100 miles a week at 11 min mile pace? thats a lot of hours.

SHADES

16/11/2004 at 10:57

JJ - I think I'll be training at slower than 11 min miles, going to train at 65-70% MHR. Really hard to even write that programme, just not enough days in the week. For the 100 mile week I'm only working 2 days (Xmas week), doing a long run of 30 miles, one of 15 and one of 20, can't remember the rest (it's at home). For the other weeks I have one rest day, 2 doubles, (3 for 90mpw) will run up to 10 miles before work in the morning.

run, eat, sleep - got to find time for work and RW forum too.

rjh

16/11/2004 at 10:58

josie jump, thanks for thatx will have a re-think

Josie Jump.

16/11/2004 at 11:07

RJH

Enjoy your running what ever you decide to do. You can run a marathon any time in your life but your baby will be small for such a very short time.

Shades

Respect :-)

Ultracat

16/11/2004 at 11:53

Shades best of luck with the program, I tend to do all my long runs at a much slower pace than 11 min miling so I know what you mean about getting enough time to do 20+ mile runs is not easy. I found that when I do a 20 mile run I am out of the house for nearly 5 hours, I drive to an off-road route and spend 4 hours running and then drive home. By the time you have showered and changed, eaten a meal the day is just about over.

rjh, its a long time since my kids were tiny but I do remember not getting alot of sleep at times and that is fairly tiring in itself, but I always tried to find time for doing something for myself and I think that makes you a more contented mum, so best of luck and training for a half first sounds like a good plan. Do you have family and friends that can babysit an hour or so so you can get out running?

SHADES

16/11/2004 at 16:30

It will be interesting to see if I can do that sort of mileage. I expect my long runs will be 12 to 12.5 min miles, but I start all my runs from home and do road for the longer stuff. Some Sundays I will have to take my marathon group out so that may mean running 10 miles early in the morning, then home for breakfast and meet the girls at 9.30 to run another 10-15 with them.

debbo

pirate

16/11/2004 at 18:16

I am impressed Shades. I have done 0 miles this week so far, and only 8 last week, so my plan of getting up over 40 by christmas seems unlikely. :(( Mind you, maybe this rest will do me good....

Ultracat

16/11/2004 at 20:21

debbo sorry to hear you haven't been able to do any running this week.

Shades this running and then having breakfast and then going out again could be seen as good prep for you 24 hours :))

I did my usual 9k with a few others tonight and I think I managed to do it quicker than ever before in 54.38 and it didn't feel too fast or tiring.

debbo

pirate

16/11/2004 at 22:32

Jane - well done - I am impressed by your miles at the moment. I am hoping that a week of rest will sort me out. I keep meaning to get up early and go to the gym/pool at work, but haven't managed it yet.

Very stressful time this week trying to sort a bridging loan for a new house that we are meant to be getting the keys for tomorrow, with an unsold flat AND no sign of the bridging loan yet.... :(((

SHADES

16/11/2004 at 22:36

Jane - all I have to master is eating lunch then carry on running, eat dinner then carry on running......

debbo - hope you get your house OK, no wonder you haven't been able to run this week, lots to do.