sub or about 4h30 hopefully

so where can i find this hal higdon's schedule then folk?

Hi Norma...my half PB was last October and FLM time last year too.

That's extremely well-put Cait. I keep reminding myself that this is my first one and just finishing it will be great, but it's hard when you have a goal in mind. Must be even harder for people trying to beat a PB-sooo much pressure!
Got 2 more donations today-thought I'd get an e-mail sent round the psychology department at uni telling people what I'm doing and bingo! £15 in one day.
Got a recovery run tonight which will be nice.
Hope you're feeling more optimistic Dips. You're so inspiring for the rest of us and always give good advice, it's a shame that you're having problems and feeling disillusioned about the whole thing. Hope things improve soon!

Happy Running
Thanks for your concern - I really enjoyed our 5.8 mile club run tonight - first run pain free for months. Just hope its ok in the morning.

I am really looking forward to London now - just 300 odds miles training to do !!!

Me too Bananna, I have a few things going on at the moment so maybe they are reflected in my training...Its good to have support on here though x

What Uni are you at Bananna?

New glass or six of wine tonight....yipppee its a rest day!

Opps meant nice glass of wine!!! Must have had too many.

Pansie - www.halhigdon.com - lots of schedules, think intermediate 1 is about right for 4:30ish

U - YIKES! 300 miles?! Hope foots OK today

Dips, I'm at Wadham College, Oxford.
Hope you enjoyed your night. Tonight will probably be a late one for me, it's my friend's 21st and he's bought two 40 pint barrels and put them behind the college bar! It's such bad timing that everyone has their 21st birthday in the final year, too much drinking, not enough working!

Wasn't sure whether to train last night. I had a really bad sore throat and was worried that I'd wake up this morning really ill. So I abandoned the killer circuits class and did 20mins on cross-trainer, 20 mins rowing and my own little circuits! Was fun, and today I'm feeling better and don't ache. Bodes well for being a personal trainer!

Running schedule goes to pot again ! Last night my wife cracked a bone in her arm which has menat time at A&E, fracture clinic - and therefore no running ! Maybe tomorrow and sunday ..and monday ?

Ouch! Well that obviously can't be helped. Two good sessions this weekend and no worries. Hope she heals soon!

Hello all,

Doing first marathon this year, hope to get around in sub 4:30, but who knows? Anything could happen!

Suprised by the top 1% can only do an 11 minute mile, where's that stat from???

Anyway, plan for 10.5 miles Sunday, done three other runs this week - is it OK to do mix of outside / treadmill (it's been cold this week for early morning running!)

SK

Hi Steve. Welcome to the thread. I also do some running on treadmills when it's dark/rainy. I don't think it does any harm, although probably best to do long runs outside because you have to get used to it.

I have 90 mins cycling today and 90 mins long run tomorrow, but also have a cold and wondering whether to skip today's session and do tomorrow's, in case I get any worse after today. Wait, who am I kidding? I've already put my sports top on 'while I think about whether to go or not'. Nothing's going to stop me from going out!
But if I am worse tomorrow then I'm blaming you lot for not stopping me!

Hi everyone

Did a speed trial today. Couldn't find a 10k near me today but measured out a course just over 5 miles (5.25M) to be exact managed it in 47m 20s at 86% of my HR.

Pretty tiring, no way I could keep that up for a half-marathon let alone a marathon!!!!

Well, attempted 9.5 miles yesterday but had to walk three times, mainly up a couple of hills - but still got home ! Forgot to turn my stopwatch on as well although that doesn't really matter. Very tired when I got in but quite well recovered today so maybe tomorrow, another longish run ?

Dear Paul,

I feel for you! I'm in the same position.

I'm just back from a 9.2 mile run which I managed in 1.37.05, it's slower than I'd like, but it was faster than the combined best times I've managed for the two runs I added together to get the total (3.2 and 6.0 miles).

The last six miles has some killer hills - 3 x 2 minute/steep climbs - and they just finish me. I find I have to stop and walk, then my legs tired, and it's a real psychological effort to get started again. Does anyone have a solution for this?! ;-)

I don't know about everyone else, but for me - this time around - it's the psychology I'm struggling with. I've done the FLM before (admittedly in 1998), and I know I was capable of doing the long runs then, but this time around it's been a real struggle.

Today I tried a lot of the psychology tips from the 'The Non-runner's Marathon Trainer' which has been helping me hugely (find out more here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1570281823/falltpublishi-21

Last bit of my post got cut off...

They talk in 'The Non-runner's Marathon Trainer' about creating 'mental videos' and playing them back in the mind when you hit a bad spot, and these worked to a point.

The other thing they suggest is to repeat in your head "I am a marathon runner, I am a marathon runner..." when things get tough and, although it sounds a little mumbo-jombo'ish, it really worked for me. Anyway, I'm just glad I got up and out the door and did the run.

I hope everyone else is on track!

Best,

Chris

Been away all week in London, so training went to pot. Ran around Hyde Park and beyond a couple of times.Took in the last mile of the marathon course. Couldn't help get excited at the prospect of whats to come.
Good run today. 13 miles in exactly 2 hours, including running through the start/finish area of a local race. Runners everywhere warming up, getting in the way!
Wasn't very well advertised as I may have been tempted to have a go!

Hi Guys how is everyone. I went out and did the "Time on your feet" run this morning and did 100 mins.What I did find is that my thighs muscles were being used a lot more than when I've run a bit faster. I do find it harder to run slower as I prefer to start fast and then lower the pace to a comfortable level rather than the other way round. Also mentally if I know that I've done a certain distance already I can pysche myself when I'm going thru a bad phase.

PA - I don't think a longish run is advisable. You'll probably still feel the effects of your long run so a sensible thing to do would be a short recovery run, may be 3/4 miles, nice n easy. Do you have training plan? I know that you're having difficulty finding time but whenever you can fit it in you need to be doing at least a recovery run, mediumish run and a long slow run.

CM & PA - what you guys have to remember is that if your long runs include "killer hills" then you're training is harder than if the route was fairly level and therefore the times are better than they seem. This will strengthen both your legs and lungs and hold you in good sted for the big day. Just keep on congratulating yourself for getting out there and doing those distances.

PA - Yes I think everyone has their own mantra and everyone will need one because over 26 odd miles there's bound to be a bad patch. Whatever works for you is good no matter what it sounds like to others.

BH - Hi. If you could keep that pace up over the course of a marathon then you wouldn't be on this thread lol. Keep it up.

Bananna, how's my guardian angel? I hope you are well and the cycling and running went well this weekend.Speak to you soon.

Sorry Normski forgot you at the end there :0)That's a good run and good time. Bang on course for sub 4.30. Well done.