sub or about 4h30 hopefully

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08/10/2004 at 13:26
Huh, where'd that last post come from? It's a duplicate!

It's on the beginners forum (methinks anyway, but I am getting old and I do forget these things easily). Have a look at my forum pages and get to it through there perhaps?
18/10/2004 at 08:21
just boinging this back to top! Another thread is starting up re sub 4:30! suggest we merge?!
18/10/2004 at 09:32
Hi guys it was me who started that other thread cause I didn't look down far enough to realise that one already existed.
I been contributing to the sub 4:00 thread but having taken a reality check and the fact that I'm a marathon virgin a sub 4:30 is more of a possibility.That's around the 10 minute mile for 26miles which will still be tough. Anyway you'll hear more from me later.

18/10/2004 at 09:57

I guess its just a couple of weeks and we can start checking the bank accounts to see if cheques have been cashed! (Those of us who were manies and didn't bequeath anyway!)
18/10/2004 at 10:36
Thanks HR,I've got a bond place anyway although I did bequeath my entery fee.Are U doing FLM for the 1st time? Hows your training going? I've just got new shoes and orthotics on the advise of a pody.I've tried the orthotics a couple of times and on a longer run they seemed to make my legs a bit stiff. Pody on holiday for a week so will not use until I've spoken to him. I just want to do some trouble free running thats all LOL.
18/10/2004 at 12:25
oops! Meanies not manies!
2nd FLM, IF i get in!Did 2003 in 4:39:27! So hoping to "loose" 9 and half mins somewhere! (Goodness knows how when I look back to how it felt tho!) Can't do it for charity this time tho', running out of fundraising opportunities as FLM was my 2nd big fundraiser. So not doing specific marathon training, but reasonably on top of half mara training so will build IF I get a place!
18/10/2004 at 14:20
I'm a meanie manie too, closing date this week then we can me manic meanie manies!!
18/10/2004 at 15:52
Hi,Stylish. Fancy seeing you here!!
My reason for appearing here is the same as yours -reality check! SUB 4? Maybe a second marathon later in the year is feasible. Anywhere between 4 and 4.5 hours is just fine. Its all about finishing {he said through gritted teeth!}
18/10/2004 at 16:06
Hi Normski, I gonna put a message on the sub 4 thread re my transfer to here. All I know is that the more miles I do the slower I get, so 9 mins miles are not really gonna happen for 26.2 miles. Plus having looked at the training to do that, 5/6 days a week well I'm not gonna have the time or the energy to do that. Also as it's my first marathon I don't want to put undue pressure on myself. All I wanna do is get round and feel good on the day, a sub 4.30 would be a bonus.
18/10/2004 at 17:31
This will be my 3rd FLM, if I get in. The first one I had grand ideas about a sub 5 hours, I realised very early on in the run that I was not going to acheive this and just concentrated on getting round, which I did in 5.40. This year I went out with the same sub 5 ambition but a secret hopefulness of a sub 4.30. I managed my sub 5 with a 4hr 56min so was well pleased with the improvement.

I am now aiming for that sub 4.30 once again!!
19/10/2004 at 15:26
Hi Dips,with the sort of improvement that you had last year sub 4:30 is definitely within your reach. How often are you running at the moment and what sort of mileage? I'm just trying to ease into wearing orthotics and not doing that much as I gradually build up distance.
19/10/2004 at 16:18
I am aiming to do my first FLM in between 4.15 and 4.45. I am a beginner but began my training in September when i sent off my application form. But then again I'll be happy just to finish, preferably quicker than my boyfriend did this year (5.30).
I am working off the sub3hour training plan that Children with Leaukiema send to interested runners, but there is no way I could run that quickly. I'm just hoping that starting early will mean that I have a better chance of doing it in the time I want....lets just hope I get in!!!
19/10/2004 at 16:37
Hi Rachel,why are you working of a sub 3:00 plan?? If you go to the grey training tab right at the top, under this section you will see some tabs for various distances about half way down. Click on the marathon tab and you will see schedules for various times. There is one there for 4.30. This should be more manageable for you. It's good that you started your training early it's all about time on your feet. Anyway welcome and keep contributing to the thread.
19/10/2004 at 16:42
I'm managing ok off the 3hour one basically because I'm training with my boyfriend. I've been on it since september and am enjoying it. It is hard work but it takes my mind off difficulties of my final year at uni. Also my boyfriend trained off 3-4hour last year and it took him 5.30. I'll have a look but think i'll stick to what I know. You never know I might suprise myself come april.
19/10/2004 at 16:46
Just remember sometimes you can over train so by doing more you're actually doing less. That could explain his 5:30 time of a 3:00 plan.Any way good luck.
19/10/2004 at 16:51
I'll trust him, he's doing sport science and all he is ever going on about is physiology etc (most goes over my head). it took him so long as he was ill after the FLM 1/2 marathon in March and basically didn't do any running between then and April. So far I haven't had any break downs. I was fit (from swimming/cricket) before I started running so once I'd got into actually going for a run I've found it not too bad.

I am aware my body might start moaning at me. I'm currently on a lighter week in my schedule and basically and have only 2 weeks before a rest week (its my 21st and i've already scheduled it in)
19/10/2004 at 17:28
Humm seems a bit odd doing a sub 3hr training schedule when you are aiming for a sub 4.30 but who am I too wonder!!!

Sylish at the moment I am sticking around 3/4 runs a week. My long run tends to be about 10 miles up to half marathon. Not really seriously training right now just ticking over.

My typical week contists of
track night, speed sessions
one club night of about 6 miles
one easy/recovery run of about 30mins, but not every week! depends what I am up to
One Gym session
One long run approx 10/13 miles

Once I start uping my training I try to fit in a couple of recovery runs each week, only 30 mins so you can fit them in the lunch break.
19/10/2004 at 17:38
I'm reading this wondering if I'll ever get back to my training plan. Dodgy knee has stopped play at the moment. Just need patience. I'm still going to the gym and doing what I can and I'm busy stretching and strengthening daily (its my IT band) and I'm hoping to be back soon but its VERY frustrating....
19/10/2004 at 20:24
Tired, have you tried a Sports Massage. It finally did the trick for me and my IT band trouble. I endure a massage weekly towards the end of my marathon training.
20/10/2004 at 08:40
Morning all,

I'm with you Tired - actually wondering if i've bitten off more than I can chew though. Been out of action since mid September with achilles injury. Working on stretching and strengthening at the moment and have been to the gym 3 times - cycling (yuck - hate bikes).

I'm going again tonight and i'm gonna add the cross trainer (if i can get my co-ordination going). My Fizz reckons i'll be running again - on the treadie anyway - by beginning of November. Does that give me enough time to train up for the FLM I wonder? - i am new to this and not a young un anymore!
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