Well done to junior Relaxed, my bro has stopped using his inhalers recently since running took him over. Wish her a speedy recovery...........good time for a first one and with an asthma attack.......
My OH has been training well for Edinburgh but last week had chest pains and had to go to docs for a check out, seems she has pleuresy and today went for an x ray......she is gutted as not sure she will be ready for May 27th now.
Sorry if this upsets anyone - but I did run with the club last night - 5 steady miles! loved it, no pains, no tiredness. ish !!!
Tired and slightly fluey today, so not in the best form for work, so I think the rest period will start now!
Rain. No need to run. Lie in. Lazy day playing on the computer (and a bit of website work...).
Ho hum! Gym tomorrow then!
Helen, well done for what you've done so far!
The biggest trick with a marathon is to run steadily. 5 hours relates to about 11:30 per mile, and on race day that would equate to half way in about 2:25 to 2:30. If you're doing 5 hours by running the first half in 2:00 to 2:10 (about 9 or 10 minute pace) and then hitting the wall, then you're more like us!
I don't know anyone who can "only" run at 11 to 11:30 pace. Even the age 60+ men and women I run with can still get faster than that when they're thinking about it, so it might be worth trying some longish runs at about 10 minute pace and see how you do. Build up the mileage very slowly at this pace, as well as shorter runs slightly faster during the week.
Much of any one's success in the marathon is running through (or just avoiding) the wall. By conditioning your body to run far, regularly, you're extending where that point is. Remember when you couldn't run more than 5 miles? All you did then was run a bit further each time, and now you're better.
Keep up the mileage, good luck!
(and stay here with us and we'll get you through that 4:30 barrier too!)
I feel I didn't run as I should have done at Brighton, the 5:06 came off the first half in 2:26, and a plan to run low 11:xx the entire way. I didn't hit the wall but the wheels sort of drifted away from the wagon at 15/16 miles and I simply couldn't keep it going. My 20 mile race (ashby) in 3:41 shows I should have done it. The fact I ran what I feel to be a poor race annoys me almost more than the 06:29 over 5 hours does. Should you be interested, the splits can be found here, just to prove my point.
My half PB is 2:16, set this year in the middle of marathon training. I'm sure there's more there, it was that very hot day at Silverstone and I didn't have a lot left in the tank towards the end.
My plan is now to spend the summer getting my 5k below 30 minutes, my 10k towards an hour and the half PB just down! I'm not ready to commit to marathon training again, but am thinking a 2014 campaign. I mentioned to H last night that the London ballot opened today and the horror in his voice when he asked "You're not thinking of entering?" speaks volumes! Not sure I can put him through it again quite yet.
Helen a sub 5 is definitely doable off your half time.
I just think it didn't go completely to plan on the day. My times are similar to yours. I have done 4.57 2010 then 4.46 2012 and my half pb is 2.10 although I ran 2.13 at Silverstone.
My friend ran a 4.56 of a half P.B of 2.22
For me the taper is part of the problem. I end up feeling lazy and lardy the week before and if I do another marathon I am going to give the taper and overeating a miss and hopefully feel sharper. Sorry folks for sneaking in. (they are a bit speedy for me also Helen)
Cheers Redhead, she was out running all be it slowly this morning at 6am much to my annoyance as she still has a cough and is awaiting results of the xray she had last week but hey she is a viking so what can I do.
Agree on the weight thing,,,,,,,listening to marathon talk this am on the run to work and the African elites all weigh about 60kgs and generally small in stature. The elite class amongst the GB athletes are much bigger and hence cant run as quick, along with altitude training all their lives...... so it goes for us rear of the pack runners too. Weight, weather, physical tiredness, injuries all play a part on marathon day. There is so much that can go wrong and right very unpredictable distance. We all have to work and live "normal lives" and need some weight on to keep going.........when you only do one or two marathons in a year the odds are fairly stacked against you so getting round is an achievement in my opinion so well done to all for trying I say.
I think my distance is half marathon, getting sick of long runs still got a 20, 18 and 12 to do before race day...........falling out of love with long running and my OH has said no more marathons!!!! I have just signed up for VLM but wont get in anyway so not worrying about that.............
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