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27/03/2013 at 14:54
I will get a massage in while tapering just to help sort out any niggles. With flights, hotel and travel expenses and then food etc in London I will have spend over ??800 to take part in London so your physio/massages are cheap in comparison, handy you live in London and don't have that additional expense!!
27/03/2013 at 15:14

Wow Bigeater, where do you live?

27/03/2013 at 15:20

Yes I can imagine! Where are you flying from?  I have family travelling up to watch and they have had to pay for accomodation because I live in a one bed flat and have no room. So will have to treat them to a meal out as well to say thank you.

I would recommend Byrons for a good POST marathon food experience. They specialise in really good Burgers and have a number of shops in London. But its one of my favourite eats in London and in the price region of Pizza Express, everyone I take there loves it! (I havent taken a veggies though). I guess I shouldn't be talking about Burger restaurants on a running forum....but its really good!

27/03/2013 at 15:21
27/03/2013 at 15:28
I stay on the north outskirts of Glasgow, on the road to Stirling.. I'm flying into gatwick sat morning, sat and Sunday night in hotel then flight home from heathrow( BA changed home flight) with the additional costs of getting to and from Glasgow airport and to and from London airports. It's the first flight down on the saturday so plan is to head straight to expo and complete registration etc.

There's a question for the London locals.... What's best and cheapest way to get from gatwick to expo??
27/03/2013 at 15:46

Gatwick to London Bridge (train)

London Bridge to Canning Town. (Tube-Jubillie Line)

Canning Town to Custom House (DLR)

I would do the above route.

On a side note, please be careful not to be conned at Gatwick Airport the self service ticket machines are set up to sell you by default the most expensive ticket to London. £16 per adult for single Gatwick Express. Regardless if you are planning to use that route. Far better to go to the staffed ticket hall and get tickets. It should be circa £10 for a single journey to London from gatwick (That is unless you want to use Gatwick Express). Rant Over!

 

27/03/2013 at 19:48
Pepe hope all goes well with physio tomorrow.. I've had one sports massage which was ??35 for 50 mins. In fact, she's running Paris marathon this weekend I believe.
I felt good on my next run, but not amazing! Regardless, I'll book in for another one pre-London.
BigE I have family in Glasgow & Killearn, Kippen way, sounds relatively close,

On another note, I hope to run with the 4.30 RW pacer, how do I find out more about locating them? Is there one at each start? I fear that I'll be a couple of pens behind and not catch them??? Help!
27/03/2013 at 20:30
Hi pep, but this sounds very similar to what I have had recently, the bad news is I have had PL before and this feels like the very early stages of it coming back. The good news is that if like me the pain is in the arch not the heel then it is very early days and can be dealt with. Firstly, I know you said you are icing your foot, but when you do this use a bottle of frozen water (sprite/coke bottle is perfect) and wearing a sock, roll ur foot over this using the pressure to massage your foot. (This may well be sore to do)
Secondly, if you want to give it a more effective massage, you can use the knuckles of your thumb but better than this is rolling your foot over a golf ball.
The other thing you will need to do is lots of stretching, start with your calfs, a lot of PL is brought on by tight calfs and Achilles, you can stretch this too by dropping your knee when in a traditional calf stretch. When you wake up before you get out of bed and walk on it, put a towel around the ball/toes of the effected foot while keeping leg straight and pull to stretch the arch. Lastly you can stand on a step on one leg, with just the ball of your foot on the step and drop your heel down and hold for about thirty secs before lifting (don't lift to a calf raise or you undo the good you have just done)
Hope that all makes sense? And good luck with it.
Regarding massage guys if you can get a sports therapist to do it then it's much cheaper than a physio, tho obviously a physio is better if you have pains (ESP if you don't know why!!!)
Had a nice 8 miles tonight another tomorrow then the big 22 on sat
27/03/2013 at 20:53

Wow, it's getting busy here! great!

My physio costs £20 for a visit which is meant to be 1/2 hour but usually because we chat lasts 40 mins or so.

I felt reasonably rested by jogging 3 mins 45 per recovery, usually between 10:00 and 11:30 pace, and my heart rate was steady / recovered for the last two minutes of each recovery - so basically it took 1 min 45 to recover each effort.

Tonight's "steady Wednesday" was a 7.5 miler with my three favourite running buddies - all much, much faster than me, so we "jogged" and I got home in 64 mins. Bit stiff now!

28/03/2013 at 10:05

Wow they are great physio prices Iccle Jim! I dont suppose you are based in South West London?

Andrew, whats PL? googled and didnt come up with anything?

Nice 7miles for me in 1hr... so not super fast but Im pleased especially as I had more in the tank!

Shhh....I can see sun and I was too hot running today...a first this year I think!

28/03/2013 at 10:48
andrew heley wrote (see)
Hi pep, but this sounds very similar to what I have had recently, the bad news is I have had PL before and this feels like the very early stages of it coming back. The good news is that if like me the pain is in the arch not the heel then it is very early days and can be dealt with. Firstly, I know you said you are icing your foot, but when you do this use a bottle of frozen water (sprite/coke bottle is perfect) and wearing a sock, roll ur foot over this using the pressure to massage your foot. (This may well be sore to do)
Secondly, if you want to give it a more effective massage, you can use the knuckles of your thumb but better than this is rolling your foot over a golf ball.
The other thing you will need to do is lots of stretching, start with your calfs, a lot of PL is brought on by tight calfs and Achilles, you can stretch this too by dropping your knee when in a traditional calf stretch. When you wake up before you get out of bed and walk on it, put a towel around the ball/toes of the effected foot while keeping leg straight and pull to stretch the arch. Lastly you can stand on a step on one leg, with just the ball of your foot on the step and drop your heel down and hold for about thirty secs before lifting (don't lift to a calf raise or you undo the good you have just done)
Hope that all makes sense? And good luck with it.
Regarding massage guys if you can get a sports therapist to do it then it's much cheaper than a physio, tho obviously a physio is better if you have pains (ESP if you don't know why!!!)
Had a nice 8 miles tonight another tomorrow then the big 22 on sat

Wow, thanks for taking the time to write all of this Andrew! Very useful, and I will try all of your tips out. The good news is after icing, lightly massaging, lightly stretching and using voltoral gel all day yesterday the pain has almost halved today! Amazing how the human body can heal so quickly, still going to go to the physio at 2pm to get it checked out.

Edited: 28/03/2013 at 10:49
28/03/2013 at 14:03
Fenn, was referring to plantar fasciitis
28/03/2013 at 16:17

Good new, it is just some inflamation in the tendon that runs along my foot. Should be ok to do a long run on Sunday No more speed work before London, which is no big loss as was only going to do one more session next tuesday. I have got some stretches to do and will continue with the icing. Thanks all.

28/03/2013 at 17:26
Great news pepe, just take it easy as nothing to be gained at this stage.

Fenn- thank you for transport suggestions, very helpful. Is the train from gatwick much slower than the gatwick express?

Denise- yes I know killearn, lovely area and I'm about 20 mins from there, I run along the old railway track to strathblane which is only 10 mins from killearn. I'm a bit more city side than killearn but on the edge of the countryside so I have some great places to run with the canal, railway tracks and the campsie hills close by.

Well the pain in knee has eased a bit, not 100% but a good improvement since Monday. I'm wanting to run, feel guilty I've not ran since Sunday bit it's still painful enough for me to know not to do it!
28/03/2013 at 17:49

Pepe that is great news.... this marathon business is more about mind games than running...must be nice to know its not serious.

Thanks Andrew good job you dont have Plantar Fasciitis, sounds nasty!

Bigeater, thats a good sign that things are improving..and that your listening to your body, you have plenty of runs in the bag, all you have done is taper a week early and thats no bad thing! The Gatwick Express goes to Victoria not London Bridge so wont save any time.....

Im increasingly getting a bit worried that Im the only one who hasnt done 20miler yet! feel like the class dunce. I know I am just being silly and I'm just following my programme, but in reflection I wish I had done it a couple of weeks ago to have it in the bag so to speak. As if it doesn't happen because of illness, I really don't have any more time. Will stop worrying and moaning now...ITS A LONG WEEKEND YAY!

 

 

30/03/2013 at 13:17
How's everyone getting on so far this weekend?
I managed to tape up the blisters and get out for a 15 miler but without breakfast.... I've been listening to a podcast that says in some circumstances the fuel you get from breakfast is too late to help you on race day, so I thought I'd give it a go and miles 1-14 were superb, but the last mile was uphill and difficult. Was it because I didn't have breakfast? Who knows. Certainly interesting.
Happy Easter!!
30/03/2013 at 15:03
Good work Denise...I don't think I would get to the start line if I didn't have breakfast, let alone run anywhere... what I have been doing is getting up eating weetabix and then jumping back to bed for another hour before getting up and going for my long run!

I joined the 20miler club today, 3hrs20mins. Felt good. Took 3high 5 gels, could of done with another one... was actually planning to run on Easter Monday, but was stressing so much about it decided to go out today!

Taper Taper Taper!
30/03/2013 at 15:07
Denise, I should of also said anything under 10miles I would just get up and run without breakfast. So all my morning mid week runs are breakfast less!
30/03/2013 at 15:57

Yay for joining the 20 mile club!! How did you feel when you'd finished? I pretty much felt crippled after mine! 

I think that messing with nutrition right now would be stoopid so I'll still eat a healthy breakfast on race day.

If all goes well I'll do a slow 10 tomorrow - feeling a bit of a sore throat atm - then it's pub o'clock!  

30/03/2013 at 17:06
Strange duplicate post.
Edited: 30/03/2013 at 17:07
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