Talkback: ASICS Target 26.2 Team: Craig

mcs - good to hear from you again and good luck with all the airport pickups etc.  can't help but think of you running on trails in Peak District every time i look at my trail shoes and camelbak - have a good run t'mrow everyone - I should be at final XC with SB

Hello all

BoD- enjoy your new oven! Hope the group run goes well tomorrow!

I did get out there early this morning, ran 13 miles in 2.30...slow. Really struggled from about 9 miles,walked a bit but lack of running this week probably made it more difficult!

Have a good day tomorrow everyone!

Sam: thanks for the advice...did the hill session this arvo at the gym and it was great and 4 times was spot in for the 3 miles as you said.

Craig: Nordic treadmill at 45 degrees sounds nuts! Never seen one of those. Though thinking about my crazy Norwegian friend it does sound like something he'd use .

Enjoy the group run tomorrow! I have my 9 mile LSR tomorrow morning with a friend of mine, so no booze tonight while out celebrating my friends b'day tonight...should be interesting.

Wind and rain and just going outside I maybe some time!
Enjoy your running all.

Hi Guys,

Been back from my morning run for a bit, but baked a couple of loaves of bread for the week and made a massive stew with dumplings and all that gig!!! Yummy. Quite old school are dumplings, but great for bulking out meat in stuff. Got a whole veg box in it too, so really quite healthy really (honest Ruth...) I've used light suet and everything...

Did my 11 miler and the first 10 were really nice (same old route, if there are any people from Peterborough or local area give me a hand here, please...) Last mile was a nightmare, I got a new camelbak, but it kept rubbing on my neck and getting really uncomfortable/sore, had to keep adjusting it and trying to keep it from making me bleed!!!  And the wind was right in my face coming back.  So strong, it was taking my feet away from under me... Kept kicking my ankles because of it...

Overall pace was 10:40 minute mile and happy with that, given the circumstances. 

mcs: I didn't realise you were that close to the Dales... you lucky fella! Remember going to Edale as a kid and getting lost on top of some great hill, then having my first ever alcoholic beverage in one of the local pubs.  Been trying to talk OH into going camping one weekend (she can shop while I run up a hill or something).  

Louisa: Hope you enjoyed your 9 today as well as your booze free (???) party... I've not seen one either, stood there with mouth very wide open thinking things that are not appropriate for under 16s... Did look at the price tag despite not having any cash or room to put it... 

MWW: thanks, waiting for delivery now... No idea how long that is going to take... That's not slow and seriously 13 miles is long way in anyones' book, but it's funny how we view these things, beat ourselves up for no real reason. You'll be back where you want before you know it... Have a look at the conversation Emma and I have had about the videos... 

Oscarr/SB: hope your xc went well today! I'm doing Fleet too Sb, so if you want to meet up either before or after, I'd be up for that.  I'm taking myself, Rachel and Thom aren't coming, so the company would be much appriciated.  

On the Thom and Rachel theme, looks like the family aren't coming to Paris with me...Rachel is worried about looking after Thom and all that.  Plus we be a bit skint... Mate might come over though, he's got £500 of Thomas Cook vouchers to burn... 

Video of day in London: London day 

BoD - good run today and remember its all about time on your feet in these long runs at this stage - good that you tried your new gear on the training run and not in a race which is absolutely the right thing to do.

SB and i had another good XC race this morning - I felt strong throughout and feel that all the hill work and exercises are starting to pay off.  Also met PMJ who joins in on Knight Rider's thread a lot.  Good to meet more forum people in the flesh to bring the whole experience more alive.

I'm sure as many folk as possible will be trying to meet up before/after the build up half races which will be great fun

Good luck with week 5 and the job hunting

Craig - would be absolutely delighted to meet up! I will send you my mobile number nearer the time and we can liaise. There are four of us all going and we'll be happy to offer as much support as we can. Do you know what pace you're aiming at yet?

Oscarr forgot to mention that he whipped my butt this morning - he claims he tried out the 'have a bowl of porridge' recommendation and it obviously worked for him.  I saw him in the distance once and never got any closer to him than that! Great running - I wasn't exactly slacking myself. It was a really hard course but brilliantly twisty and turny - my favourite kind.

Chicken enchiladas with extra cheese shall be my reward tonight ooooh and I think a cheeky shandy on the side is called for LOL

To go back a wee bit in the conversation - did you have any further thoughts on what you're gonna do after the marathon? I'm intrigued as to how everyone else 'recovers'...

I'm slowly getting going again and have progressed to running 10km today at recovery pace. I'm pretty happy that I can at least maintain my fitness while recovering from the groin injury. Fingers still crossed I'll be able to do a normal long run next week and make it to the Watford Half Marathon the week after (a few pretty sharp hills from what I've read).

Thanks for posting the paces Craig.

Tenjiso - that's great - really good recovery and shows what a sensible approach can do. Everyone should take heed

Craig, really sorry to hear about the job - but it just means something better awaits Well done on a great long run. I missed my morning group session yesterday as I was teaching on a coaching course and only clocked 5 miles this morning (beautiful day) so you've done more than double what coach Murphy has done! I'll work out everyone's suggested paces for the long run next Saturday but I reckon you and Emma will be pretty close (you'll be close enough to shield her from any errant dogs anyway!) Looking forward to catching up with you all.

Very windy seven and a half this am up the Monsal Trail through a couple no three old train tunnels great run in one hour four mins into a head wind for half then sailed back too quick. Good to see you doing well bo keep going. Looking forward to the sixth when I start my schedule.
Eleven for feast tonight from China and Spain and Sweden wife's family not sure why they have turned up.
All the best for recovery tenjiso.

Hi Craig, good long today for you, shame about the camelback chaffing. I've never used one of those as I usually carry a water bottle with me - seems like you carrying a bit of extra weight with all that water on board? In longer races I tend to refill my bottle at water stations as I find it hard to drink out of cups on the run. See you Saturday - will be good to catch up again.

Craig: Suet  See you next Saturday!

oscarr wrote (see)

Ruth - could I ask you to comment on my tea and coffee consumption please - on average I have the following numbers of mugs per day;

Tea - english tea with semi-skimmed milk and no sugar - 5

Coffee - strong flavoured with semi-skimmed milk and no sugar - 3

De-caff coffee - after dinner - with semi-skimmed milk and no sugar - 1

I have a good balanced food diet on most days.  Thanks. 

Evening,

If the coffee is instant but strong I reackon you must be having 450mg of caffeine per day . If   strong brewed coffee you are likely to be consuming much more . The advice is no more than 400mg of caffeine per day (200mg for pregnant women). Suggest reduce coffee by one (caffeine variety) and keep the 5 cuppas and this may take you below the 400mg (unless your coffee's are  like the cup I have in the morning - strong!)  and you have very strong tea.  

Ruth - thanks for the reply to my tea/coffee query, much appreciated and very useful info

Just caught up on all of the postings. Well done on all of the runs everyone. You all seem to have much better diets than me and as for tea consumption that is a big number!
Got up early Saturday and did long run 9 miles at 10 min miles. Back home and wife and children all still in bed!
Keep it up
Kev

2 cups of Nespresso and three of water so far!!!

Hee hee, just spent an enjoyable 10 mins watching the Bootcamp and VIP pre-training day videos... I've only just found them! I'll add my own vanity moan to yours and Emma's - my frown line between my eyebrows is suggests I am deadly serious and rarely smile  

Good to spot you three among the group in the Bootcamp vid - will be having a closer look at your running style on Saturday and offering any pointers I can.

Anybody get the Asics email about races.........Coniston 14 and birmingham a couple near me great as I don't usually have the cash to splash on many races.......
Didnt notice the eyebrows at all! Having three daughters I have spent my life telling them they don't need to worry what they look like.......as well as my oh of course.
Nice four mile run home at 8.50 average.....

SB: been really good. Looking forward to it. I've got a plan to build up some speed, so maybe a few 10k races over the summer, then focus on a half in October. Got club xc over the winter and back to another marathon in spring; maybe... Won't be racing at Fleet, gonna try and maintain mp over the second half. Doing Birkhamstead for a race start of the month. Been looking and it seems quite tough, might not have been the best choice then (hills). Stir fry for me with LOADS of veg and noodle... Lovely.

Tenjiso: really pleased your recovering and not a problem with the paces. Happy to help.

msc: good choice on the coffee, I need to order some more, been out for a few weeks now. When you starting the plan? Sounds like a great running location near you.

Oscarr: sounds like your flying mate. Really looking forward to meeting a load more people too. So glad it wasn't a race with this thing, hurt like hell when I showered!!!

KR: yea, I'm a bit funny like that. Only one place I can get drinks on my regular run so take it with me. Not tried it in races, that would be a pain. Going to have to practice with bottles to be honest, might be better. I can't wait till the weekend, loved the other days.

Ruth: got guilty and left the suet out... See you Saturday.

Kevin: sounds like my morning runs, up, dressed out, run, back, shower all before the family are up.

Sam: I have to disagree, I saw no frown line. Oh sweet vainity... The videos are quite good though. The photos on Regents Street are going to look amazing. I'm also sure there is going be a lot of pointing out issues with my running... All good though, best way to learn.

Ok, news. Got a tight calf which is playing up. Was OK yesterday, but started to feel it after shower this morning. Been stretching it. Sam advised ice and compression too. Got compression socks on, leaving tomorrow's run alone and keeping fingers crossed it's minor.

Its the first day I've missed a scheduled run in a long time... Not loving it, at all...

Got to focus on the big picture.... Today's ice done. Issue seems to have resolved itself.... Tiny bit of residual tightness, but nothing compared to yesterday...

mcs: I got that too. Sent them a form for Fleet.

BoD - hang in there mate - I get tight calves all the time when I'm at full training tilt. Might just be a training adaptation thingy and them getting stronger - just have to let them adjust at their own pace! Sometimes I have to sneak in an extra day of rest and then carry on as if it didn't happen. I hope that's all it is ...

Really looking forward to seeing the photo shoot pics - might make you sign imy copy when we see you at Fleet.  I think I'll be aiming 1:45 - 1:50 but we'll see how I feel at half way.  It's my friend's first half and I think she'll be around 2 - 2.10 if you want someone to start with.  

mcs - Yeah got the email but had already entered Fleet with some friends so I'm carrying my place over to next year.  Oscarr mentioned that you might know of some 20 milers your way later in the summer (Chatsworth)??? I think I'm gonna do the Belper 30k in August just for the sake of company on a long run.  If there are others might have to try something in July if possible.  (Know what you mean about entering races - I usually stick to one a month unless there are local cheapies happening).