Introducing First Timer Craig (aka BoDuke)
Yep - Sam - I'd be more than happy with that time too - only ever run one 10 miler - they never seem to pop up when you need one! It's a really nice distance I think, wish there were more of them. But then I'm always wishing someone would sit down and even out the races on offer across the year - mostly just seem to be a paint gun spatter of distances on offer.
Craig - glad you enjoyed your wee jaunt. What happened at the track to cause the little outburst above? Did they make you run lots of laps? I think the 5k we did at BC was just about bearable but I wouldn't have wanted to do much further...
My 9.5 miler turned into a 10.8 today with a very sneaky long and twisty hill (lots of wishful 'it must flatten out round this bend' type statements made). Very much at chatty pace (except on above mentioned hill). Gonna do it again next week and see if we can find the road we should have taken to make it 9.5 as planned LOL
Oh and what happened to Rosie - how long was she 'lost' for? Don't worry about her being cold - bet she's got a 'chick' incubator at work that she could hop in to warm up
Happy cycling tomorrow - be safe - be seen!
Sam and all her chicks - sounds like a great day on Saturday so well done and seems all 5 are either on or ahead of where they should be at this stage which is great news. A little surprised by comments that there was not more time for Sam to chat with each one which must have been an important part of the day - feedback, areas to work on, mods to future schedules etc.
Did the physio add any other stretches or exercises to the routines? Did Ruth add any more nutrition nuggets?
Great to see you Saturday. You were looking really relaxed on the track those last 20mins. Was amazed when you told me you hadn't run that far very often before. Really looking forward to seeing how things go for you in Paris as your prep looks to be going really well.
SB - me, lost? That doesn't count as lost. There were concerns even before we started that I'd end up in Manchester and I was given various helpful tips, but I think I managed to stay in the greater Birmingham area. Sortof. All good anyway. Sam was carrying sports drinks in her rucksac so I think my sports drinks homing instinct must have set in and kept me (vaguely) on course!
Sounds like a great day last Saturday BoDuke. I was ill at the start of last week but back on track now. Dod a 10km race at the weekend. Chernobyl 10km and got a PB of 46.45 so very happy. Treated myself to a sports massage on Monday.
Apparently it helps though!
Good luck with training everyone.
Now I really must book the London hotel!
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When is a half marathon pace not a half marathon pace? While on my training run today this question occurred to me, and I'm hoping Sam or someone can provide an answer. In the Garmin training schedules, the threshold pace for a 4:30 marathon (according to the pace calculator) is given as 9:54, and it states this is around the Half-Marathon pace. This adds up to a half marathon time of 2:09:41. However, the schedule also says "you should eventually be capable of a sub-2:00 half-marathon (9:00 per mile)". So, shouldn't I be training threshold at 9:00 pace, rather than 9:54? After all, it's near a minute different. I'm a bit confused, although admittedly I'm easily confused.
The pace guidelines are always going to be a bit arbitary. To get a more accurate idea of your own threshold pace, I recommend working out your current best 10k pace per mile and then adding between 5-15 seconds per mile on to that. (The closer your 10k is to an hour, the less you should add on. The faster you are, the more you add on). For most non-elite runners, half marathon pace will not be as quick as threshold pace. Does that help? I know you are easily confused...
Kevster - great PB - well done on that!
Craig - glad the honeymoon phase continues! Hope you enjoy/enjoyed the fartlek today. It sounds as if the ground will be quite solid (ie. frozen!) on the weekend, so at least you won't be slipping around in road shoes. But might be worth trying some trail shoes if you're going to be doing enough off-road running to justify it. I often wear trail shoes on mixed runs - they can handle a reasonable amount of road and like the feel of them when I'm on grass/gravel/mud etc.Very excited to have got the Garmin 610 on Saturday! It's very smart, huh? My old 405 had seen better days. I'm gradually figuring out the touchscreen now
BoD - sounds like trianing is going well!
I am finding training and motivation difficult at the moment but haven't given up...yet!
Hi Kevster, if you scroll back through this thread, you'll find my advice on how to do fartlek if you're new to it - gave a couple of suggested sessions - you might find it helpful.
Craig - sounds like you had fun with your debut fartlek! I'll sort out what's happening at the next training day and can then see what to do about that half marathon in week 10. Can you remind if you have another half booked in (is it week13?) How juggle-able are things for you over that period?
I'm happy with Fleet's timing - 3 weeks out. Your last very long long run will be 4 weeks out, so 3 weeks out gives a chance to practise mara pace in race conditions (though not necessarily all the way.)
The other one - week 10 would have been OK if it weren't for training day. A bit dubious about us putting you through your paces on the Sat and then you racing on Sunday - bit too much overload!Is there any chance of finding something in week 9 - there's Roding Valley in Essex, or you could do Tunbridge Wells with Emma (though appreciate it's a bit of a trek!) If not, don't fret... just let me know. Give me a call if you'd like to discuss.
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