Talkback: ASICS Target 26.2 Team: Craig

Introducing First Timer Craig (aka BoDuke)

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04/02/2012 at 16:52

Holy moley bat-folks - it's chilly. On the plus side - I took 42 seconds off my 5k PB this morning in an attempt to keep warm despite wearing tights, thermal and gloves.

I'm right there with you Craig on the eating front - haven't stopped since we got home.  Logs are now roaring nicely and there's a chocolate cake in the oven.  Oscarr probably can't move by now - and mcs has probably turned into an icicle. I've got my old lady blanket over my knees on the sofa and not leaving this room unless I really, really have to!

Only tiny tiny mist snow here so far - really hope your races don't get cancelled - what a nightmare for all involved.  Still better safe than sorry - can't run if you're in a car crash and get hurt! And if you do get to run - for goodness sakes wrap up warm!

04/02/2012 at 17:49
My race tomorrow has been cancelled due to refrozen snow and tonight's forecast! Oh well I'll have a couple of glasses of wine tonight and have a run tomorrow as usual. Disappointed.

Got my fingers crossed for you guys tomorrow.

Nice work on the 42 seconds SB! Two pairs of socks, two hoodies and a really thick pair of trackies.... Curry and rice be ready soon... Blanket later. Got an image of you all tucked up in front of a fire eating cake, ten frozen solid and oscarr turning into a bowl of pasta... So cold I'm starting to hallucinate.
04/02/2012 at 18:09
Watford decision is now being made at 6am, rather than 8am, so at least I won't have to dig the car out for no reason. We've got light snow here at the moment (about 30 mins North of Watford) , but it is settling.
04/02/2012 at 18:42
We've got it here too, 90 mile north of there...
04/02/2012 at 19:08

hello all

BoD - enjoy your wine and run tomorrow. Shame the race is cancelled but just as well to avoid the increased risk!

Tenjiso - hope your race goes ahead!

My schedule has completely gone out of the window this week as I am trying to travel back and fore to work to get my daughter to and from the occasional lesson at school, she can only manage one lesson a day, and sometimes not that. I did manage a treadmill run yesterday and did 14 miles this morning, was planning 15 but ran out of time and energy.I will keep going,but  I may have to accept a very slow marathon time (nothing new there)! Very little snow here, turing to rain now.

Hope you all have a good weekend and enjoy your races / running tomorrow

Edited: 04/02/2012 at 19:16
04/02/2012 at 20:23

Hi gang - your carbo loaded friend here!!  Did the same diet as yesterday and it was better today - think its the lack of protein and fat filling foods like meat and the fact that you just graze all day !!  Come to the conclusion that you have to taper into a 2 day hit like this so you ween your stomach onto it over a couple days first.  Got the taste for jaffas now but glad i don't have to have a nesquik milkshake for a while.  For the stats among you - 680g carb today, 673 yesterday vs Ruth target of 705 per day.

Can't see Watford going ahead - it's snowing here in Reading right now and the kids up the road are already starting to build snowmen and the forecast is for it to snow for about 6 hrs solid - Watford gets all this about 2hrs behind.  Couple this with the freezing temps and risk of ice i just can't see it being on.

Like you Ten, i've got number pinned on vest and chip on shoe just in case.  will get up early and check website.

04/02/2012 at 22:27
Oscarr and all - just a quick heads up - I've received a text to say Watford HM is cancelled.

I'll be wearing my numbered top on the treadmill. Perhaps I'll get the wife and kids to pop in every 30 minutes to cheer and hand me water

C'est la vie.
05/02/2012 at 07:11

Morning all

Sorry the half is cancelled as well, enjoy your treadmill run!

05/02/2012 at 08:05
Just a quickie: sorry guys, but there is an upside to this for me... First time my kiddie has properly seen snow!!!! He's getting fed and we're going to make snow people and all that jazz!

I'll post picture links later
05/02/2012 at 09:21

Sorry your run is cancelled folks - who's coming sledging this afternoon then? 

Can't wait to see the pics BoD - that's a momentous day in anyone's book.  We've had to practically drag Rascal back in - she's loving it - despite it being deeper than her legs!

Right - out I go for a wee 10 mile trot - watch out for sightings of the michelin man on the news - that's how I look right now

05/02/2012 at 15:26
I've been out sledging with the kids too. It was harder work than my inaugural Watford Replacement Half-Marathon, which took place in my garage. The half marathon took place over a flat course at 40F with good visibility (I could see clearly for several feet).

I decided to run with my heart rate monitor, so that I could compare the benchmark against previous runs ('cos I'm a nerd). I started at 7mph and dropped the pace a little every time I hit my recovery ceiling (153bpm), so my miles gradually take a bit longer and I finished up at 5.6mph, which was steady for the last couple of miles.

This leads me to wonder whether I should increase my paces in my training runs? I have been running my long runs at 5.4mph, which is actually slower than my slowest "recovery" pace today. Should I continue on the slower pace to give myself more time on my feet, or should I increase my slow pace slightly? Should I even consider adjusting my goals?

05/02/2012 at 15:39

Nerdiness is good Tenjiso - I have a whole series of spreadsheets with graphs and everything!

We averaged 12 minute miles today but as a result managed to stay out of the snow drifts at the bottom of the hills - bet we looked like bambi on the downhills but at least we were out - that's my thinking!

My runs are all based on my HR so I haven't been worrying about pace so far - I do my long runs below 148 and the pace is what it is on the day.  I don't wear my HR when racing and I always go much much quicker than in training but then as the saying goes : train to race - not vice versa. Does your programme include a good mixture of  different runs - tempo, long, recovery etc?  Do you run at different HRs on different days? Sorry more questions instead of answers!

05/02/2012 at 15:56
SB - LOL, I'm thinking that Craig's and Emma's threads are getting to the stage where they need to be merged - I get confused where some conversations are taking place

I don't generally wear my HRM in races, or if I do - I ignore the info until post race. I do the usual mix of hard/easy runs and try to do two hard sessions in a week, in addition to the long run.
Edited: 05/02/2012 at 15:57
05/02/2012 at 16:23

Tenj - LOL - me too - Cremma / Emmaig - hee hee - I love that they read each other's threads though - there seems to be a whole T26.2 family forming and it's great.

On the HR thing - as far as I understand it - as long as you're doing some harder runs each week - you will progress but I'm dubious that your long run is the right session to be speeding up too much.  As long as it feels easy and that you could keep going pretty much all day then it's at about the right level.

(P.S Am totally loving the top and waist belt Asics gave us at BC - took some jelly babies out today - how comfy is that belt? Might have to do some modifying though as even with my increased michelin padding today I could still have wrapped the straps round me twice! And the top is incredibly warm and very flattering - win win in my world)

05/02/2012 at 18:15
Which thread am I on? Fairly buried so had a day off with family here from all over the globe, china, Spain and Germany! Eating and chilling. Off on a course for a week have a good week all and let's hope this weather perks up as no treadmill here but trail shoes will be out me thinks.
05/02/2012 at 19:29

Hope this works: Day in the snow with my little 'un

MWW: Good work on the run and treadmill. Life really does get in the way of running sometimes.  Had comments from OH that stuff has not been done in the house because of running...

Shame about the races today and hope you've managed to get the carbs out of you oscarr... Did it help with you training run today? 

Ten: I'm gonna leave that to someone who knows what they are talking about to answer... But the 'A Bit Different to Watford Half, Half' sounded positive... At least your garage isn't snow covered road where feet get twisted and ruined.  

SB and Ten: Seriously, how can you confuse Emma and my threads??? Good lucking, inteligent, viberant, smart, witty woman and then you have me... I really like the belt thing too, means I can take my phone on longer runs without having to put it in pockets etc and also good for gels and all that... Better than the little pocket in my tights and shorts. 

mcs: sounds great! Good luck with the course and I've had my trails out too (not that they helped that much).

Right guys, really suprised I made it out today, threw up last night... Had a chinese in the end and think it didn't like me v much. Did get out this evening though for 5 miles (was going to do 7/8) with my trail shoes (that I wear as normal shoes and not for running). God that hard in the snow... Never run in snow before, sliping all over, feet strugging and aching... Seriously... Ough I want it gone now... 

1    10:56.0    1.00    10:56
2    10:17.2    1.00    10:17
3    10:49.1    1.00    10:49
4    10:24.0    1.00    10:24
5    10:43.1    1.00    10:43
6    1:36.3    0.16    10:08

HR running at 157 ave with is 83% of max... Really was hard for the pace... Hard work this running melarkie.  

05/02/2012 at 19:47

Awwwww bless - how cute! Looks like you had fun!

Hope your tummy has settled.  I'm not surprised it was hard work with nothing in your system.  So are you starting to notice any changes now that you're a fully fledged athlete?  

05/02/2012 at 20:03

Oscarr - good effort on the carb load, it does not work for all but for most runners of club level it will be very useful but you need to go for it and really see how this works for you - please let me know how your run felt although this may not be raced paced!I can not believe you have snow. Scotland  feels warm - that never happens when England has snow !

Bo-Duke:  SO CUTE!! They do make you smile.

Good for you for getting out after being sick. Also what a difference in breakfast - well done!!!

You may be caving chocolate if you have up your mileage this week but a little chocolate is allowed as you are training to run a marathon!

Keep working on organising and planning head in regards your food.

05/02/2012 at 20:32
Thanks SB: it was really good. Think he will like it better in a year or so.

Not sure about that... Athele??? Me??? That's the funnyest thing I've heard this century!!! FOFL...
05/02/2012 at 20:37
Week 7? Consistent, structured training - I stick to my assessment! Best you start thinking that way boyo - after you pick yourself up from the floor! Running's for life - not just for Christmas you know 
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