Talkback: ASICS Target 26.2 Team: Rosie - Page 75 - Spring Marathon

reikirabbit

23/04/2012 at 13:52

Stupendous run FH!!! Well done again Rosie, you're a phenomenon.

I did 4:06:53, was not delighted but happy enough now. The weather was fab, had the same experience on the Embankment later as you Rosie, getting soaked watching!

Sorry I didn't spot you at the start.

KateF

23/04/2012 at 15:21

+1 on the chocolate milkshake, but I prefer a Frijj. Rosie, any tips from last week, I've got a marathon 2 weeks away, followed up with 33 miles 6 days after. My recovery from Brighton hasn't been brilliant, but I put that down to 3 hours driving the day after, which I'm sure isn't in the plan.

Luke Ellis 2

23/04/2012 at 15:43

Well Done Rekirabbit, FH and Rosie. Great effort and glad the weather was good..... whilst you were running anyway.

I was jealous watching the marathon on the tele. Hopefully will get a place this year. if not through the ballot then hopefully through my club.

Have you caught up on any of the footage Mary Keitany and Wilson Kipsang were amazing. Was gutted for Lee Merrien though. He really gave it his best and just missed out on Olympic Qualifying time.

I thought Kipsang was going to break the world record but fell off the pace a little at 20miles.

The pace in both races was brutal.

reikirabbit

23/04/2012 at 15:54

Just watching the full version now, watched the highlights twice last night!

Minni

23/04/2012 at 20:34

Rosie - nice to meet up with you briefly yesterday morning. Well done on another great run - that's a very good time just a week after Paris! What will be your aim for Edinburgh?

Funny Hat - well done to you too and everyone else.

I ended up with an 8 minute pb finishing in 3:20 so very happy!

mcs

24/04/2012 at 06:50

Great time Minni congrats to you.
FRC agree on the poached egg on toast yum, not a big fan of milkshakes must say, tried the Goodness things not that fussed to be honest, will try glass of milk next week though. We have a farm opposite with a dairy you just go in leave your money on the stone step and take a pint in a glass bottle from the fridge and return washed later. Old fashioned but it still happens in our village.
Time to get ready to run seven steady to work, happy Tuesday, hope the recovery is going well.

reikirabbit

24/04/2012 at 09:03

Awesome Minni!!

Sleepy Bear

24/04/2012 at 09:35

Whoop whoop Minni!!

Rosie A

24/04/2012 at 10:38

Well done reikirabbit!!

Fantastic PB Minni! 8mins off! Was it VLM last year you got your PB at? That's an amazing difference at that pace.

Hope you're both recovering ok and have got some celebration in

Edited: 24/04/2012 at 10:38

Funny Hat

24/04/2012 at 11:30

Well done reikirabbit and minni !! Minni you are flying, really good PB.

Rosie, great running. all the very best for your next couple of marathons.

So my splits .....

1 - 8.29

2 - 7.52

3 - 7.29

4 - 7.34

5 - 7.45

6 - 7.52

7 - 7.58

8 - 7.47

9 - 7.56

10 - 7.59

11 - 7.51

12 - 8.02

13 - 7.56

14 - 7.56

15 - 7.56

16 - 7.30

17 - 8.24

18 - 8.12

19 - 9.11

20 - 9.09

21 - 9.52

22 - 10.04

23 - 9.36

24 - 1.38 (tunnel)

25 - 14.28

26 - 9.06

27 - 6.46

So on reflection... I went off a bit too fast, I didn't drink enough for the conditions and was really dehydrated towards the end and felt really ill. My pace was good between 6 and 15 miles with 3 miles (13,14 and 15) all at 7.56 pace. Mile 25 was where I lost the plot, just wanted water and a pizza!

Now I have had time to reflect I should of gone for 8.05 to 8.10 pace for the first 15 - 20 miles and then gone closer to 8.00 pace for the last 10k. The heat really got to me, my fault though as I just didn't drink enough early on in the race.

Will now keep my focus and build towards a new PB at New York later this year.

Thanks once again for your support and kind words.

FH

Edited: 24/04/2012 at 11:33

reikirabbit

24/04/2012 at 12:08

Very very interesting FH, many thanks for this [haven't dared look at mine!]

Surely Mile 25 is a [revision of] 24+25/2?

It does look like a classic positive split though.

How much did you drink?

mcs

24/04/2012 at 12:22

Looks like my styleee there FH, too fast at the start, easy to do, I do it every time I go out to race. Lesson learnt from this spring training session.............well done for getting there and round!! Enjoy NY lucky man, do you need anyone to carry your bags??

oscarr

24/04/2012 at 12:25

FH - well done - they say in sport that you learn more when things don't go to plan and i reckon you learned a lot from that race which can easily be put right for the next one so be positive (which i think you are) and plan for NY

Funny Hat

24/04/2012 at 14:04

This was a very good +'ve split, not the worst on the day though !!

I drank about 500 mils before the race, thats was over 4 and a bit hours from getting up in the morning. During the race I would say 750-1000 mils, I had 1 gel before the start and 5 during.

I think the heat made my fast start worse towards the end, but as Oscarr said, lessons have been learnt and I move on strong in the knowledge I will get better.

FH

oscarr

24/04/2012 at 16:18

FH - good for you

mcs

24/04/2012 at 16:26

Must confess on Saturdays 3 hour jaunt I didnt drink enough only 330mls as only carried one bottle. Must do better, need to hide some bottles for Friday nights long one as busy this weekend. Not looking forward to that much, anyone fancy coming over??

oscarr

24/04/2012 at 16:40

mcs - for long runs when i need more than 500ml fluid (that's my bottle capacity) i also carry another 500 ml in a used plastic drinks bottle, use this one first then throw it in a bin during the run - another option i used abroad when you needed a lot of water was to park the car at a pinch point and do 3 loops returning back to the car after each one, carried my keys and it only takes a few seconds to open the car and exchange empty for full bottle

easy 9 miler for me this weekend as only a week after that to my race.......................!!!!!

Minni

24/04/2012 at 16:54

Rosie A wrote (see)

Fantastic PB Minni! 8mins off! Was it VLM last year you got your PB at? That's an amazing difference at that pace.

Yes Rosie, 3:28 was VLM last year. This one was the toughest I've ever run and took a lot of mental focus. It made me realise how in the past I've always kept within my comfort zone. I'm sure you can relate to that?

Rosie A

24/04/2012 at 17:12

Absolutely Minni! Can relate very much to running in a comfort zone. 8 mins in a year is fab! Well done!

One of the things Sam said to me that was really helpful was about not backing off when it gets unconfortable or I started breathing harder in a race. Sunday was definitely me in comfort zone, but was really surprised by my time as last year's races were that pace when I was trying hard, those I did comfortably were nearer 3:45-3:55, so it's highlighted that the rest and speedwork etc have made a difference as well as the pacing. Do you have another target now or focussing on recovery for a bit?

FH, that split looks a lot like me last year. To get a 20min PB when you've gone out too fast suggests as you say that NY could be even better. How are you feeling this week?

mcs - on long runs I've done a similar thing to oscarr with laps and drinks in the car or at the front door of my flat, I find it easier than stopping to buy stuff or the preplanning required to stash on route

Funny Hat

24/04/2012 at 18:26

Hi Rosie, feel ok, better than I thought once I had finished ! quads are a bit sore but I should be OK to go for a light run this weekend and see how the legs feel after that. Got the Lake Land Trails marathon 1st July, so need to get back to training as soon as I can.

FH