Talkback: ASICS Target 26.2 Team: Rosie

Introducing the third member of our ASICS Target 26.2 team - Rosie (aka RosieA) Rosie will be mentored by Sam Murphy on this thread (starti...

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30/12/2011 at 12:05

Hi Rosie,

Congrats on getting selected. How did you end up in A&E ? Hope the first week is going well otherwise.

I'm training for a half not a marathon at the moment, but would be interested in knowing more about what your strength training routine is. I've been told I need to strenghten my quads.

30/12/2011 at 14:00
Blimey Rosie, what's with the A&E trip at Xmas? Hope everything is okay.
30/12/2011 at 16:07
Is Rosie alive and well?
30/12/2011 at 19:08

Hey Rosie - I hope you are ok!

I was sick all Christmas day (thought it was result of too much pink fizz on christmas eve) however I've been naseous ever since, exhausted and have a really sore mouth. Great!

Anyway - my first long run is tomorrow after having two weeks off but a gentle, slow and scenic route awaits and I'm really looking forward to it (wearing my groovy tights that I am so in love with).

Happy New Year to everyone! x

30/12/2011 at 19:25

Hi Rosie, just back from a few days away.  Re Christmas - not as exciting as yours sounds but it did involve some family upsets which I won't go into !

Sam - thanks for the strength training tips on this and Emma's threads (haven't checked into Craig's yet) - the schedule I have set myself includes most of your core and upper leg exercises plus the calf raises which I tend to do as single leg ones with the other foot up under the heel of the raising one and you certainly know if you've done too many over the next few days !!  Got such weak arms that I don't even start to do pressups !!

Rosie - I think Simon is doing the 5K race with you so have a great time.

31/12/2011 at 21:32

Wow, quite a week, but not for the reasons I’d hoped. I think it’s now fair to say my Christmas and New Year now hasn’t gone to plan. I had thought that after my brush with hospital over Christmas I was sorted, but began to realise something was still wrong when halfway through day 2 of the training plan on Tuesday I started to feel grateful it was a rest day (not like me at all, it has been said that I have *issues* with hyperactivity!) By the evening I was feeling a bit grim, and puzzled why, despite having the heating on full whack, wearing all of my clothes simultaneously and sitting inside a sleeping bag I still couldn’t stop shaking it finally occurred to me to take my temperature. There followed a call to the out of hours GP, who, when I got there packed me off to A&E (again) for intravenous antibiotics and fluids. 4 days of i/v antibiotics later I’m now much better, and Dug and I are setting up for a quiet new year. As quiet as new year gets when you live near Edinburgh castle's fireworks display anyway! I’m planning to take the couple of days easy ish (fortunately this almost fits with the training plan, as Monday is a rest day anyway) but after that (Tuesday) am ok for straight back to the plan, all being well *crosses fingers*, as so long as the infection keeps away there isn’t a medical reason I can’t run. So, my question is, having just had 4 days enforced bed rest, can you bank rest days?  Do I still need days off the next few weeks?  Now I'm out of hospital I'll be back on here daily so will keep you updated..

Edited: 31/12/2011 at 21:34
31/12/2011 at 21:32

mcs – I’ll pm you the train info stuff for Edinburgh, and will ask my friends who have spectated for their top local tips for your family as they’ll have a wait in Musselburgh when they finish the half I guess. I've never quite figured why the half starts before the full, but..  I see from the local paper they are trying to improve the finish after the mess last year anyway, so hopefully…

Thanks spoons, mcs and Bo Duke for the strength tips. Will try those out.

Knight rider and Shaggy, long story but got pretty unwell due to an infection which went systemic. Because of this I got a bit toxic so was being sick too, so somehow got hypovolemic quite quickly and couldn’t stand up without passing out (literally - a party trick with excellent youtube potential according to my friend* who was loitering for amusement value)*’friend’ status under reconsideration!

Gazelle. Yey! I’m doing London too [possibly – I have a GFA place but not even thinking about it as trying to stay focussed on Paris]. How’s the training going? 36 miles seems quite harsh at this stage?

Simon. OMG I hadn’t seen that..

Funny Hat. Oh no! And ouch!! I once dislocated a shoulder and that was bad but an elbow? That sounds a lot worse to me. Did they reduce it back to place while you were conscious? Oww.

Graham, good idea about the classes, I’ll look into that. I’m in for Alloa already so let me know if you’ll be there. Have you done it before?  I haven’t but was looking for one around then and as it’s fairly local thought I should give it a go..

Minni – it’s good now thanks – though as above for up until now. How’s your training going?

Sam – really sorry to hear you’ve been unwell too. Hehe to Roller Derby – a few of the nurses at work are really into that and having seen their injuries I’ll be staying well clear! Thanks for the advice. I’m really looking forward to trying out these ‘quality’ sessions as I do enjoy more focus in my running when I’ve tried it. I just don’t seem to have tried it nearly enough!

Jingle Becs. I’m rubbish at strength training, but the others on here have given me some good advice this week so check out their posts. Which half marathon are you going for?

Emma C – oh no. As if you didn’t have enough on over xmas without being unwell too I’m guessing. Hope you’re feeling better now. How was the long run?

Thanks oscarr.

Happy New Year / Hogmanay to everyone!!

Edited: 31/12/2011 at 21:34
01/01/2012 at 01:15
01/01/2012 at 11:21

So I did threaten daily visits from now on..

Hmm, so I had considered having today off in a bid to try to be all sensible and avoid any more hospital-related fun and games, [the fun aspect, in reality, being decidedly limited]. But on consideration the long stretch of rest till Tuesday seems to be resulting in me actually doing more in a effort to not do much. Poor Dug has been walked 4 times already today (not that he minds, to be fair), the neighbour's dog has also been walked (neighbour consented - I didn't steal it, well, not much), house is tidy, ironing done, even the car has been washed. It's worse than the procrastination I got up to before my finals.

The plan says 10M slow today. That's my old daily run (which I love)

 So, my options are:

a. Keep trying to rest till Tuesday

b. Do 10M slow

c. Switch in a lighter session from earlier in week 1 which I missed due to the difficulty of running while attached to a drip stand.

I'm currently tempted to go mostly for b, and head out for a slow run. A modified b though, I'm thinking super slow not just slow, and doing a lap route so I can head back if I need to, and taking it easy and see how I feel. A GP friend who runs thinks that's not unreasonable*.

*they actually expressed disquiet at meeting me for coffee later if I haven't been out   

What are you guys up to today?   

01/01/2012 at 11:36
Rosie, option B very slow with the route close too home if you need to head back sounds the best bet, does seem like you are on the mend!

Hope it goes well.

I might pop out later for a slow 3 miles, did a 12 miles yesterday at a tad over 9 minute pace.

Anyway Hapy New Year to you all and the very best in 2012 with your running.

01/01/2012 at 12:15
Rosie- take it easy- 10 miles might be a bit much after being so ill- if you use a HR monitor, it might help you avoid over doing it while you recover.
01/01/2012 at 12:50
Hi Rosie - Happy New Year - you really do need some rest to fully recover so you can do the rest of the schedule but knowing you I guess you will run today anyway !!  For me, it's watching rugby at 1pm then my beloved footy team Sunderland at home to Man City on Sky (that's the beauty of a May marathon so my schedule dosen't start yet!)
01/01/2012 at 13:18

Ah, good scheduling there oscarr. I hadn't thought of the seasonal sporting advantages of a May marathon training plan before! Which one is it you're doing? I seem to remember it was The Marathon of The North but could have made that up due to your Sunderland link? According to my spreadsheet I'm in for that one too - I do have a problem with entering races! - so that'd be Paris, London, MotN, and Edinburgh in 6 weeks or something. Hmm. I'm not thinking about it for now though as trying to focus on Paris. WE'll see what happens after that I think

tricialitt - fab idea about the HRM, thanks! I don't normally use one but have one with my garmin and know my resting HR when well so just going to work out some not-too-stressful ranges to stay within and head out

Happy New year to you too Funny Hat!, hoping the 3miles was fun and as sunny and beautiful as Edinburgh is today. I really struggle to resist running when it's cold and sunny like this. [Well, I struggle to resist running full stop, but when it's like this it's worse..]

01/01/2012 at 14:59

Crikey - I turn my back for a mere 8 days and all chaos breaks loose - glad you're on the mend and hope your GP friend is keeping an eye on you!

2012 can only get better for you I reckon!  Can't believe you've entered 4 maras already you crazy lady - Robin Hood's date is still tbc as far as I can see.  It's yakky and raining here today so off to the gym for a gentle treadmill session ready for a xc race tomorrow. 

How'd you get on today - I'd have gone for the rest til Tuesday option myself!  Try to take it easy and remember you've got loads of time til Paris and the residual fitness to get away with the odd rest day.  I once read somewhere that as long as you do 90-95% of a training programme you'll still get the same results as doing all of it.  Maybe someone can back me up on that and reassure you that you don't have to over do it?!

01/01/2012 at 16:16
Rosie: Mate. Sorry to hear what happened, what a nightmare! Hope you get back to 100% really soon. Check the HRM.

Make your friend keeps an eye on you... I read something similar to what Sleepy said too. Take it easy, get better and look long term.

You've got a spreadsheet with your marathon entries??? You really are a running machine! (I am stealing that idea though...)

Happy New Year!
01/01/2012 at 17:46
I put my races on Fetch

Welcome back Rosie. Hope you're OK
01/01/2012 at 18:32

Hi Rosie, just coming off the ceiling after a last gasp winner by Sunderland against Man City - fantastic !!  Yes, I'm doing the Mar of The North - it starts and finishes at the Sunderland football stadium.  Can't believe you've booked 4 races in 6 weeks - I think I do a lot doing 2 a year !!!

I'm in the "if you feel unwell then rest until you feel OK" camp cos I think running with flu like symptoms can put you back further in the long run than the gain of the training run itself - if it's just a head cold then I would run but if fluey I would not.

02/01/2012 at 00:46

Hi Rosie, what an eventful past week for you - hope you are on the mend now. I hope you have your sensible head on too and are taking it easy before getting back into the schedule - better to miss a few days now in the first week, than for it to not clear up properly.

Oscar - couldn't believe Sunderand nicking all 3 points right at the end - what a match that would have been to have attended! Martin O'Neil is definately GOD!

02/01/2012 at 03:49

Happy New Year Sleepy bear! Hope the xc race goes well. I tried to rest a little longer after posting but the lure of Arthur’s Seat on a sunny day was too strong so I had a 10M slow jog up the hill then round about. Was lovely, except that the whole of* the alleged 80 000 people who had been at the Hogmanay Street party last night seemed to be trying to take a New Years Day walk up to the summit at the exact same time as me. I ended up running down through Hunter’s Bog and across the path along the top of the Crags to avoid the masses. Very pretty but I’ll be glad when there is a bit more space there like normal.

*possible slight exaggeration, a few of them may have been missing, but not many..

BoDuke – hehe re: the spreadsheet! I will admit to a fondness for a good spreadsheet. The race one started as a way to organise myself a bit in terms of race entry as I was finding it really hard to remember which races I’d entered and which ones I’d just fantasised about entering(!), but has grown over the years and I keep all sorts of stuff there now. I have it set out as a calendar of the year (but previous years data for each race is there too where I have done it before) and all the races I’ve done / have seriously considered doing go in. I’ve actually only just started recording finish times and stuff there, it's been mostly for planning purposes. Most useful for me has been storing all the logistical info about travel/links to websites/race info etc in one place, as I found I do a lot of the same races year to year so it saves looking stuff up over again. It works a bit like a personal event finder for me too now it’s big enough as I add info in about races I like the look of when I see them advertised. It's had another function too - I've found that I seem to project all of my pre-race anxiety onto stressing about travel [it’s weird, not something I’m normally stressed about at all], so knowing I have that side of things under control on race day [to an extent] helps. It’s nice to have an overview of what I’m doing when throughout the year too. I’ve always thought that it helps me structure my race calendar too, but having just fessed up to having accidentally** entered 4 marathons in 6 weeks in April/May I’m going to keep quiet on that front! Does anyone else want to confess to running spreadsheets or databases? Thanks for reminding me about Fetch, Spoons, it’s one of those things I’ve heard a lot about but never investigated. Would you recommend it? Am off to have a wee look..

**slightly accidentally anyway  


Congrats on the Sunderland result knight rider and oscarr. I hadn’t realised the Marathon of the North actually started and finished at the stadium. I like the sound of that.

So, on the training front. - Am feeling fine after the 10M yesterday, but still going to have today as rest I think. Will probably go horseriding or bike and take Dug walkies then be ready to go for tomorrow's session at stupid o clock before work. 

Edited: 02/01/2012 at 03:50
02/01/2012 at 08:57
Fetch is great. You can log all your training on there + races + shoes etc. There's forums too. Many of us are on there.
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