Talkback: Lucozade Sport Super Six: Vicky (sub-4:30)

Follow the progress of Hashette live in the forums as she prepares to run a sub-4:30 marathon under the guidance of mentor Liz Yelling

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21/12/2009 at 15:43
It's a balmy 1.5 here
21/12/2009 at 16:06

Hash - can we have some of your snow please?  The kids are gutted that everyone else seems to have some and we've just got heavy frosts and the odd sad flake.

Are you massively excited about starting the 'real' training in jan?  It feels slightly surreal that its a whole year since I was in your shoes, especially seing as I'm not running at all at the moment

Congratulations on your HM result.  Its my goal for this year.  Was hoping to crack sub-2 at Stafford, but I suspect its not quite enough time to fully get my knee all better.  You should do brilliantly with your sub 4:30 effort, with a sub 2 HM already behind you!  Fab stuff.

Hope you have a very relaxed Christmas and some lovely winter running and grab the new year with both hands & guns blazing! 

Oh, and I still haven't got all the way through my lucozade stash....

21/12/2009 at 20:12


Sorry for radio silence all day.  Ironically, after all my mimbling about running in the snow, my OH Big Blouse fell over on the ice on the pavement whilst doing his job (he's a building surveyor) got taken away in an ambulance, and I've spent the day running between work and A&E.  The hospital was a complete hell hole - at one point the duty nurse stood up and shouted that because of the number of injured people arriving there were ten patients to every doctor on duty, there would be at least a three hour wait and would anyone who did not need emergency treatment please leave.   Suffice to say that none of the perfectly healthy looking people with faces that looked like they were sucking a lemon moved a muscle.....Anyway, home safe now.  He's on rhino-stopping painkillers, his ankle's three times normal size and rapidly turning purple, but at least it's only a very bad sprain rather than a break.

Fab to see you in here Wotsit, and hope you have a lovely Christmas too.  I missed it, sorry to hear you're not running at the moment and what happened to your knee?

I'm somewhere between excited and apprehensive.  Excited because in ten years of running I've never had any form of coaching and suddenly - THIS!!!  Apprehensive because I'm conscious of the 2394 people who didn't get this chance, so I really want to make the target.  Some of the comments last year on here that were directed towards people who'd given it everything they'd got but didn't make it through sheer rotten luck were really unfair, and I'm not sure my skin is thick enough to deal with that.

21/12/2009 at 20:31

Yes it is Hash.

I don't think anyone could criticise anyone for not giving their all. And if they do - well, they're idiots and everybody would see them for exactly that. Jealousy is an ugly thing.  I was waiting for a bit of a backlash - how could someone like me get a valuable place on the Super Six? But there's a couple of bits to my story left out (my choosing) which explains quite a lot about my running and me but I will not justify it - why should I?*shrug*

You can handle it.

21/12/2009 at 20:38

Cheers Spinkletoes.  I think we all have to leave bits of our story out, although no doubt I'll end up spilling my all between now and April.   I did it in the interview in December, but thankfully Catherine was nice enough to not include it after I'd asked her not to when occurred to me that my ex might read what I'd just blurted out through nervousness!

I think this year is different in a lot of ways, not least because the six of us really feel like a team and are supporting each other from the word go.

Here's to the six musketeers

Edited: 21/12/2009 at 20:39
21/12/2009 at 20:44


21/12/2009 at 21:27
Hashette wrote (see)

I think this year is different in a lot of ways, not least because the six of us really feel like a team and are supporting each other from the word go.

Here's to the six musketeers

One in, all in
The Evil Pixie    pirate
21/12/2009 at 21:45

err sorry who are you lot ????  

Hope hubby is OK Hash.

I'm totally cacking it TBH it seems such a huge thing we are doing

I'm supposed to be going home for Christmas. Home is Reading which was on the news tonight due to snow dramas!!

21/12/2009 at 22:20
No plastering over Christmas then Hash?
21/12/2009 at 22:28

oooh hows the hubby hash??? thats not good news at all...its been really bad in winchester today.

one in all in as MM says- we all have set ourselves high challenges, like everyone attempting to do a marathon in whatever time.

22/12/2009 at 06:49

Thanks guys

No plastering Bridget, although quite possibly getting plastered.

The poor sod is frustrated as hell and in a lot of pain - everything's just so dififcult.  We've got a downstairs loo, so the middle-of-the-night wee was entertaining - slideing downstairs on his bum, much clanking with cruches at the bottom of the stairs, thud, fumble, click, thud.  Flush.  Then reverse.  Clank, clank, thud, clatter (dropped a crutch), effing, clank, flump, flump (crawling back upstairs on all fours).  Suffice to say after that we were both wide awake!

Pix you're not travelling today are you?  I'm just watching the pictures on the news, the whole place looks closed

Edited: 22/12/2009 at 06:51
22/12/2009 at 08:25

Sounds thoroughly miserable Vicky.

Hope the pain has died down a bit today - I'm paranoid about anything ankle-y - I've gone over on mine in the past so often and it's a sickening feeling. Now I have no arches (at all) and therefore it doesn't happen anymore.

Have you finished work for now?

The Evil Pixie    pirate
22/12/2009 at 08:38


I think it was the paranoia you lot have created that helped me cut my run short sunday. Felt guilty at not running yesterday so will try to clear the garage and use the treadmill today.

Going home Thursday Hash Up here is fine so the 1st half of the trip will be ok. I will be taking supplies and old race foil blankets with me!

ImRio    pirate
22/12/2009 at 10:20

Gosh miss a day because of a works party and there is so much to catch up on!!!

Hash I was told last year when I started training for IM following a funny experience on the bike that I have exercise induced asthma but I am not sure it is as such.  My peak flow is a lot lower than it should be apparently and the ventolin does help a lot.

I am going to go for a little icy, snowy run tonight when I get home from work - poor Benji is desperate to go out so will get my sorry behind moving!!

22/12/2009 at 12:08
Hash - take a bucket upstairs tonight for him
22/12/2009 at 13:20
spinkletoes wrote (see)
Have you finished work for now?

I wish.   Work  Christmas party from 12 to 2pm on Christmas Eve.  My Christmas Eve tradition is running the 9ish miles home - literally running away from it all.  Usually we get out at 1pm, so this year it's going to be a bit of a squeeze fitting in the run and then being non-sweaty and vaguely presentable by 4.15 for the carol service.

I'm trying to work out whether turning up to the Christmas party in running gear is a goer or not, but have a feeling it might make it look as if I'd rather be somewhere else.  The very idea....

Yours It beats PS's suggestion of a bell, Bridget

Rio is it worth getting it tested again to see if it was a one off?

I wish I could go for a run tonight, but there's no chance you count being run off my feet or running around Morrisons!

ImRio    pirate
22/12/2009 at 13:40

Hash I have a peak flow meter at home so I might do a few days of trials again and see how it is.  I don't really like using the pump (though it can be a bit of a comfort blanket).  And I am not very good at taking medicines of any description as I forget.

Hope Si is up on his feet soon Hash

22/12/2009 at 13:57

Thanks Rio.  From the sound of the lunchtime phone call he's up on one of them.    Grrrr........ I'll chain him to the sofa tomorrow!

ImRio    pirate
22/12/2009 at 14:02
Leaving an empty bottle within reach I hope
22/12/2009 at 14:32

Hi Hashette and everyone

I'm also aiming for 4:29:59 at London (PB 4:52 Oct 09 with only 6 runs of 10 miles or more in the previous 4 months), so I'll be watching this thread with interest.

I see from RW's sub 4:30 schedule and the training paces alongside (CW's link at the top of this thread) that although the text says that for 4:30 you should eventually be able to run sub 2:00 HM and 53 10k, the training pace guide says your target HM pace is 9:54 which gives nearly 2:10 for a HM, 10k pace as 9:29 which is 58:53. Hashette's impressive sub-2:00 means that's she's running a HM at the 5k pace!

Looking forward to seeing Liz Y's schedule in the new year. 

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