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19/03/2013 at 11:56

Tim - I just read your report from last year ... it's really good.  It sounds like conditions were pretty good last year.  Fingers crossed it's the same this year, though the way things are going with the weather it may not be so pleasant this time.

19/03/2013 at 23:18

Hi Shielsy, hope you manage to shift the chest cold.  You're right though, you have the plan in your head and see the runs slipping away from you, it's a bit panic inducing.  Have to keep the faith (been telling myself that all winter!).  Mainline that Vit C!


Tim I enjoyed the report thanks!  I did the 10k last year on that day, fingers crossed we get a lovely sunny day again.  Or no blizzards as a minimum   So do you put in some more road miles when you know you're doing a road race, or just train as usual?


Adrian that is a looong run!  Are you training for an ultra too or is this part of the marathon training?  Best of luck with it!


8 miles for me today, managed a bit faster than I have over recent weeks so hoping the pace will recover.

20/03/2013 at 19:23

Shielsy hope you are feeling better and running again.

Thanks for the feedback on the blog post.

Daisy - for me a road marathon is good reason to do more speed work. I run on smoother trails for road running The Sunderland to Conset coast to coast route is almost like running on a road these days as it has been resurfaced as well.

Been having a very easy week so far, as I have my longest run of my marathon plan. Which will be a 55 mile race between Guisborough and Helmsley (The Hardmoors 55). Not pushing for a time on this one, just hoping to survive the weather and the hills. Weather forecast is not looking too good for Saturday 

20/03/2013 at 21:56
55!! Makes my planned 30 puny in comparison!! Lol. Good luck fella!
21/03/2013 at 07:06

Shielsy glad you had a good hol, run along the seafront sounded lovely. Hope your cold and knee niggle are better. Know exactly what you mean about the worry of injuries as race day gets closer. But hopefully we will all be ok. Adrian and Tim, wow with that mileage! Look forward to hearing about it. 19.2 miles for me today and the sun is shining. But I have to wait for a washing machine to be delivered and plumbed in first this morning.

21/03/2013 at 11:56

Tim - good luck on your 55 mile race ... here's hoping the weather reports are wrong!

Lily - thank you.  I'm feeling a bit better and my knee pain has improved too with the 3 days of rest.  I'm planning on going out tonight after work to test it out.  I've just got some new running shoes - the Nimbus 14s.  I always run in Nimbuses, and I loved the 13s but have heard bad reports of the 14s so I'm a bit apprehensive.

Hope the washing machine arrives in good time

21/03/2013 at 16:03

thanks Shielsy, wash machine arrived and I was able to get out by 11.30. Long lonely 19.2 miles, v tough but fab views and sunshine. Exhausted, exhilarated and ready for a big cake .

24/03/2013 at 07:26
Planned 30 miler moved down to 26.5 (to best previous longest run). 3.53 time so pleased as it took 40 mins off my last time at the MOTN.
Can't bloody sleep now though!!!
24/03/2013 at 13:08

well done Adrian!  40 minutes is a huge amount.  It's not fair all that exercise and still can't sleep!  Do you find your legs get juddery when you're trying to relax?

I hope you got your big cake lily!  How many more LSRs are you planning on before the day?

Hardmoors!  One of the few races not cancelled this weekend.  Tell us what it was like when you're back Tim.

Hope the Nimbuses work out for you Shielsy, it's always a bit scary changing shoes isn't it?  My trail shoes kind of fell apart this week  so had to park run in the snow with my road shoes on.  Not ideal!  So I want to get new ones, but also have this foreboding...  Will do my LSR tomorrow in the road shoes, might well head up Lanchester/Consett way like you say Tim, it is good underfoot.  The other way, towards Stanley Crook, is currently being resurfaced and a bit of a quagmire in places.  Alright when it's frozen!


Happy running everyone 

24/03/2013 at 13:41

I was planning on doing 20 miles yesterday (I can't run today, I'm working all day) but sadly I had to admit defeat after 13 ... I was desperately cold, despite having 3 long-sleeved layers on, gloves, a baseball cap and ear muffs, and the strong wind, which seemed to be against me no matter which way I ran, just got the better of me. 

Plus my hamstring started to niggle towards the end, so that was another reason to stop.

I felt so demoralized, waiting at a bus stop miles from home in my running gear, knowing I was 7 miles short of my schedule.  My OH tried to cheer me up when I got in saying that running 13 miles in those conditions was commendable, but I'm still frustrated.

The last time I trained for a marathon all my training went to plan.  This time though the weather and niggles are making things a right pain in the neck!

Adrian - did you do your long run on Thursday?  I think that was the only decent day we had.  Will this bad weather ever end??!!!

24/03/2013 at 20:43

THanks for asking after me. I did survive an awesome day out in the Cleveland Hills. Just working on my blog post now and will share here when done

Shielsy hang in there, and hopefully on a warmer day soo, you will have the run you hoped to have today. Wearing the extra layers makes it tough, I have been noticed that with my training as well.

Daisy hope you find good footing. I have ridden my mountain bike on that route many times.

Adrian great confidence boosting run. 

Edited: 24/03/2013 at 20:43
24/03/2013 at 21:50

Tim - well done on surviving.  I know someone on FB who did it and he's posted photos and it looks - well, 'nuts'!

24/03/2013 at 21:50
24/03/2013 at 23:01

Great blog - and a tremendous effort.  Bet your never reckoned on those conditions when you signed up for the race .

24/03/2013 at 23:34

flippin heck Tim that's amazing, well done!  Can't imagine running (a) that distance in (b) those conditions. You should be really chuffed!


Shielsy such a shame you had to sack the distance, but it's true 13 miles in this weather (crazy people who run 55 on the moors excepted!) is good going.  My heart was sinking looking at the weather forecast for this week.  But winter has to end sometime (cross fingers).  Probably we'll have a huge heatwave on MoTN day and we'll none of us be able to cope!  Just have to ride the conditions and trust in the training you've done.


25/03/2013 at 08:40
Awesome blog Tim - really enjoyable read and to be honest, scared the bejebus out of me around the distance and conditions. Tremendous achievement though!

Shielsy - did my run on Saturday am. No snow here in Newcastle at all - couple of threatening snow showers but they came to nothing.

Daisy - last years MOTN was amazingly sunny - I got quite sun burnt - I'm hoping for the same!!!

Keep running all!
25/03/2013 at 08:43
Ps daisy - re sleep. I always struggle the night of a run above 14/15 miles. My muscles 'move' quite a lot (despite always having ice baths after a run) and I feel, when laying down, like I need to 'move'.
Weird, right?? I always wake up the next morning with quite a start as well.

I'm an odd soul!!!!
25/03/2013 at 08:45
Pps lily - I've been having some cracking cakes recently from Pet Lamb from the Grainger Market in town. Running = Cake.
25/03/2013 at 09:55

loving the forum yes Adrian running def = cake and big chocolate bars! Daisy, I am following a plan from the Manchester marathon website I used last year. I cut back to 13 miles as my longest run this week. Then next week is my big one of 21 miles. I find them so hard as I am out for hours on my own and rarely see anyone! How does everyone else cope mentally with their LSRs? Weeks after that taper down to 12 and 10. The plan worked ok for me last time. I would just like to go a bit quicker! After my long run on Thurs I have had a bad back. Am trying to run through the pain but maybe should rest! Shielsy, I am sure you were right cutting your  run shorter, but I understand your frustration. I try to use the mantra, it's what you do, not what you don't do that  counts so 13 is excellent. Well done Adrian, amazing time improvement. WOW Tim, I am in complete awe of you, what a challenge and in such difficult conditions. Congratulations!

25/03/2013 at 17:17

I did 19 miles today but found it really hard!  I think the cold, even though it was probably colder back in January really.  Anyway, done and dusted.  I like your mantra lily, very wise.


On the mental side - sometimes I arrange to meet others on "bits" of the run (I had company for 5 of today's miles) which is nice at the time and to look forward to while you're out.  I download podcasts and listen with one ear, though sometimes my pace slows right down because I'm listening too hard and not thinking about what I'm doing  la la la (clue's in the name!!).  And sometimes music, but not for the whole of a long run because it can be a bit intrusive.  On a good day I just enjoy being in the moment, but like today it was so cold and snowy and windy I needed my mind taken off the running!!


Adrian nothing wrong being an odd soul   I get a thing like I feel like I'm tripping up, a bit like the sinking feeling you get before falling asleep.  Makes me wriggle around and my other half wonder what on earth I'm doing  - well he's used to me now!

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