Virgin marathon ballot scam

Paid your fee upfront? Chances are, you didn't get in!

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03/10/2013 at 14:58

If there was some problem with lack of transparency - and I don't think there is - and the organisers were asked/forced to give more details about how the ballot numbers are organised, surely all this would do is give people ideas about how to beat the system, e.g. by putting down completely unrealistic target times, or saying that they're a brick layer and not in fact a snake breeder (or something.)

Anyways up - not broken, doesn't need fixing.  Tender schmender.  It's a well organised race that's heavily over-subscribed.  Loads of people will be disappointed every year.  A few of those will have a good whinge about it.  Some will betray their lack of grasp of statistics and cry conspiracy.

 

So... anyone want a Champs place for next year?  I'm thinking 300 big ones.  I'll lend you my shorts to run in.

03/10/2013 at 15:00

So many flaws in the 'if it aint broke' theory, but I'll have to go through them tonight as too busy at work Im afraid.

 

03/10/2013 at 15:01

I paid and didn't get in. But then it was my first attempt ever and I did get a 'failed' jacket (as I call it). 

What has surprised me is how many apply and how many have applied for many, many years without getting in. Add to this I know some people who have got in 3 years in a row. Does seem a little unfair in that respect.

03/10/2013 at 15:05

Why has the pigging quote thing disappeared??

What Cougie said:  Putting it out to tender wouldn't change the fact that squillions of people want to do it each year, but only 36,000 can.

Do you think another organiser would just say "hey, let's give EVERYONE a place"?

From my Essex club, four got in, three didn't. That's a very high success rate - clearly VLM likes Essex boys and girls!

I've no idea who bequeathed and who didn't.

03/10/2013 at 15:08

Ive been trying to get a ballot place since 2004, I always bequeath, and I have never managed to get in via the ballot   same again this year......... maybe I am just unlucky!

seren nos    pirate
03/10/2013 at 15:11

some people have been struck with lightening several times.......i never have.......

03/10/2013 at 15:15

Mr A - I think your standpoint is pretty weak here to be honest and you know it. I think you're buying time to try to come up with a better argument. Fair play but it's a bit transparent  

My advice to Clive, Katie and others is don't bequeath - at least then, if you never get a place, you've never paid anything.

03/10/2013 at 15:16

.....but the " failed jacket" is pretty cool this year!...and it fits for a change!

03/10/2013 at 15:19

Well if you like the merchandise that's another matter 

We've got various garments hanging round at home, they are very useful.

seren nos    pirate
03/10/2013 at 15:21

I can't see the point in the merchandise........people always ask you did you do the marathon if you wear it....and you have to lamely answer.no I didn't.I got this as a consolation prize because i didn't get in

03/10/2013 at 15:23

Some people will have the 'failed' jacket but still do the race: those who get a club place, or a gold bond place.

03/10/2013 at 15:24

I'll give you a conspiracy. I DIDNT bequeath, DIDN'T get a place but they STILL sent me a jacket. I'm calling Watchdog.

03/10/2013 at 15:41
Surely if the organisers were as conniving and money grabbing as the OP suggests, they would increase the entry fee? The London Marathon is as cheap as chips compared to the other world majors and I'm sure even if they quadrupled the fee, it would still be over subscribed.

My theory for what it's worth is that those who pay up front are often the most desperate to get in and are hence the most vocal about it when they don't. In comparison there are quite a few who enter without paying up front who aren't as bothered so perhaps don't complain quite so vocally when they don't get a place.

For the record, I entered once (didn't bequeath) and got it. My sister entered once (didn't bequeath) and got in. My dad didn't want to risk his chances with the ballot so just did a quick marathon elsewhere to get a championship place
03/10/2013 at 16:41

so the biggest issue is the 90000 people who apply but dont get in. as everyone accepted is happy clappy

how about introducing wave starts and having everyone in and effectively making the start over a couple of hours.  sure it would keep the roads closed longer but everyone would get in.

But will we then get people moaning the race had too many in and was too congested?

03/10/2013 at 16:46

That'll never work, Dean.  Think how crazy-rammed the Chandos would be by the time I'm on my seventh pint!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/11888_10151622942989595_598277931_n.jpg

 

03/10/2013 at 16:50

Funny how Sydney can cope with over 85,000 runners ........... but hey ho .........

03/10/2013 at 16:54

Dean: maybe because the Mall can still only hold so many baggage lorries, so many goody bags, so many people with medals? Tubes and trains would be congested all day? Hotels only have so many rooms?

That sort of thing.

 

03/10/2013 at 16:55

PP: seriously thinking about it but, better not; I've seen your shorts!

03/10/2013 at 16:57

Same old, same old.
It has been like this since the mid 1990's. I have jacket from when I donated the money and did not get a place in the extra ballot years ago.

As everyone points out it is massively popular and many people will be disappointed. Try your luck at the lottery, probably got the same chance of winning.

03/10/2013 at 16:59

I thought it was a scam when I tried to enter the ballot last year and couldn't get past the 'are you SURE you don't want to donate your entry fee?' page. I was sure, though, so didn't end up entering.

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