VLF 2012 Disaster, peeing pure blood at mile 13 & more.

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23/04/2012 at 18:00

To say im gutted is an understatement. I dont feel like celebrating, theres no champagne or sense of achievement. Im feeling quite low right now.

My background is I used to be overweight a lot, I lost 3 stone to run last years London marathon and my training times suggested a 5 hour finish, I did it with a cousin who didnt train for it or prepare or eat breakfast and she suffered badly, we were doing 15 minute miles from mile 3 and walking and stopping at every toilet and st johns, at mile 13 she collapsed and ended up in hospital,  her boyfriend  went with her and I carried  on though by this time a 5 hour finish was long one, I ended up doing 6 hours 50 minutes.

So for 12 months that time has annoyed me and pushed  me on to train hard for yesterdays marathon. I lost 3 stone since xmas and improved my times amazingly, my 10k went from 1 hour 35 to 53 minutes, I could do 8-9 minute miles rather tthen 13-15 before, I could do a half marathon in traiing gear in 2 hours no problem, 22 miles took me 3 hours 45 minutes.

So my aim for yesterday was if it all clicked a 4 hour time or 4 to 4.20 ish time.

It all started off badly, I was penned in and couldnt run at my pace, I was doing 10-11 minute miles and not the 8-9 I did in training. At  halfway point it was 2 hours 20 minutes, id planned to run 14 miles in 2 hours so only 1 mile more then training so not pushing myelf too much but then that gives me 2 hours to get 12 miles done which I can do easily even if I tire.

So besides that I carried on, then at mile 14 i noticed my wee was reddish,   then as soon as I weed i needed to pee again so at the next toilets I went and my wee was pure blood, not diluted but thick and clotted, needless to say i shit myself and was scared  to death, I tried to soldier on but my mouth was so dry, I needed to pee but couldnt and when I did it was just pure blood, by mile 17 I was worried ot hell, phoned my mum and contemplated dropping out, seeing yourself lose blood like that got me so worried.

Anyhow I carried on at walking pace just to finish as i never want to quit. I ended up with a 5 hour 50 time. I wasnt happy when finishing, didnt get the tingls or feel the magic, i just crosse dthe line and then  got my things and tried to get home. I ended up in a posh hotel toilets  being sick and just sitting on the toilet for 30 minutes as i could not walk and felt so ill. Luckily the concierge helped me get a taxi and i went  back to my hotel.

Besides this  half a toenail fell off and split my other toe, my ipod ran out at mile 17 which it never doe,s my nike gps watch failed at mile 18 and went dead and i got blisters despite wearing same socks and trainers as I have done for 5 months with no problem.

All my friends and family have been really supportive and say look you finished it but I did that last year, I wanted a really good time for me, it was all about the time and ive trained daily so hard since xmas to lose 3 stone and improve my times.

I did change my gels on the day to a twice as powerful one but that wont cause the bleeding surely. Ive had a bit of a bug all all week, not much but enough to have a few lemsips so wonder if thats related.

Also for the first 13 miles I had what I thought was a stitch and I never get one and even if I do its run off quickly enough so now think its related to the blood thing.

So 4 months of sheer dedication and blood, sweat and tears for nothing.

I usually have a glass of champagne  when i get home but tonight just dont feel ive anything to celebrate and i feel so dejected.

23/04/2012 at 18:22
What was the blood, did you find out?
23/04/2012 at 18:23
Not sure, gonna get checked out tommorow.
cougie    pirate
23/04/2012 at 18:23
Ok blood in urine isn't particularly unusual - but pure blood is unusual.
Have you seen a doctor about this today or is it back to normal ?

I'm struggling to understand your plan ? Go out fast and gain time for the first half and then you have longer to do the second half ? That's not the best schedule.

Switching gels to something you've not used and are twice as strong is a silly idea. You really want to have stuff that you've used before. But as you say gels don't cause bleeding.

Stitches just happen - no real reason - were you feeling particularly worked up about the race ?

You say daily training ? Did you have rest days ? It's rest that lets the body recover. If you've just trained constantly you'll just wear yourself down.

Don't take it as a failure - you've got some good miles in your legs - stop and think about what went wrong and which things you can control. And change them. Enter a marathon later in the year when you have recovered and regrouped ?

iPods and gps aren't needed for London. Ditch them and there's two less things to go wrong. Blisters just happen sometimes - but you have to get on with it.

Good luck for the next one.

23/04/2012 at 18:29
Reason im so dejected is in 2 weeks im having a full knee revision and anterior cruciate ligament reconstruction which will render me in rehab for 6 months so this was a big thing to do before I am unable to run for 6 months.
23/04/2012 at 20:02

Sounds utterly dreadful.  I suspect you don't want or need a post mortem and just need to vent.

There ARE positives which I hope you see once the initial pain has eased.

You overcame real adversity. 

You are supremely fit now and this will stand you in great stead for your post-operative recovery.

You have family and friends who care for you.

And when you come back to running, your next race can only get better.


All the best.


23/04/2012 at 20:04
Can anyone explain why I'm crying laughing at this? Have you put in for next year yet Mark?
23/04/2012 at 20:12
Mark - I wonder if the blood in pee was either a renal contusion (bruised kidney) possibly exacerbated by dehydration or maybe some other low grade trauma somewhere in your ureters,bladder or urethra as a result of bashing your pelvic organs about running. It doesn't take much blood in pee to make it look like it's "pure blood" coming out when in fact it's blood diluted in urine. In any case - if it doesn;t quickly settle you should get it checked out. You'll no doubt have to submit a urine sample pre op in a couple of weeks so that'll pick up if there's still traces of blood kicking aboput in your pee. All the best !
23/04/2012 at 20:19
I am really genuinely sorry for laughing Mark but when things go that spectacularly wrong what else can you do but laugh? I'm sure you will have your friends laughing at the dinner table for years to come with that story.
23/04/2012 at 20:19
How many gels did you take? If they were twice as strong surely less? To properly absorb the carbs in gels you need water. Too many stronger gels without enough fluid could have caused some of the problems?
23/04/2012 at 21:29
Sussex Runner (NLR) wrote (see)
Can anyone explain why I'm crying laughing at this? Have you put in for next year yet Mark?

We all have races that go wrong but I can't see that peeing blood is anything to "cry laughing" about. I'm guessing it's partly because what you type doesn't come out the way it sounds in your head but it does make you sound like a very unpleasant  person at times. I really think you need to think before you post.
23/04/2012 at 21:37
Poor you Mark, that all sounds rotten. I hope you recover quickly, and try again next year. Good luck.
23/04/2012 at 21:56

Mark, you had an awful experience but kept going and crossed the finish line, that is an amazing achievement really well done, I hope everything is ok.

Screamapillar, you have summed up exactly my thoughts when I read NLR comments.

23/04/2012 at 21:59
Mark, I do hope you recover soon. Also, did I understand correctly that over the past two years you have lost a whopping SIX stone total!?

Also, I totally understand that you are dejected and you wanted more, but you finished and hopefully soon this will feel like an achievement.

Do keep us posted on the blood and the knee.

I do hope to see you on the start line again next year!
Edited: 23/04/2012 at 22:02
23/04/2012 at 22:34
Too much thinking before you post is wrong. More spontanuity please. I think my post is very relevant. If I thought about it I might not have posted it. X-factor style over deliberation and control is not always a good thing.
23/04/2012 at 22:42
I think sometimes you think too much before you post types can totally misread the needs of the poster. The OP doesn't want medical advice. I'm sure he has seen a doctor. He needs to get his head right. When things go that badly wrong you need to find your sense of humour and quickly.
24/04/2012 at 07:07
Although I don't agree with all NLRs sentiments, there is one thing I am utterly jealous of Mark that you have and I don't.... As NLR said, you have a dinner party story like no others. Dine out on it, get yourself physically and mentally fit, get in the ballot and repost next year with a boring 'I did it' post!

I genuinely hope all is well for you as a fellow runner. Good luck and get well!
24/04/2012 at 07:15
Well if the lemsips have aspirin in then there's your source.
24/04/2012 at 07:33
Get yourself checked out and worry about what went wrong from there.

I can guess how you feel as I had what I perceived to be a bad run (went and bought Nike GPS as had forgotten Garmin charger, panicked as i couldn't use it and it was in km not miles, it also went deal around 18 miles, I was boxed in, heavy legs from the start, strained thigh at about 15 mikes, stomach pains from 16 etc not to mention the idiot that nearly ended my race by stopping in the middle of tower bridge to pull out a camera!) So missed my goal by about 5 minutes and felt disappointed.

I doubt many people have everything go right but the bottom line for you sounds like you were not 80% right never mind 100%, its disappointing but you don't need to look far into this years London marathon to find a far more tragic story to put things in perspective. Hope you are given the OK by the doctors and try not to dwell on it too much, perhaps after a few weeks off worry about half maeathins for a while and come back to marathons later.
24/04/2012 at 08:58

actually, congratulations, mark. firstly - despite sunday - you've got yourself fundamentally fit and after a few weeks recovery, you'll be able to get back to enjoying running. as speed-10 says, take it easy and enjoy some shorter races over the summer - i bet your 10k time will come down a treat, for example. you might even find it fun to join a club, where you'll probably make some new friends and get good advice, marathons are not everything. and as for the VLM, well you do indeed have a story you'll be able to tell for years - non-runners will gawp at the physical horror; runners will enjoy hearing about what you will come, in time, to appreciate as a total tactical cock-up -- we all make lots and lots of "mistakes"...in their own way, part of the joy of running...make sure you keep at it, and post news of your forthcoming successes

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