VLM 2012 first timers???

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21/11/2011 at 09:36

Morning all

I have a question - what is everyone planning to do when the ice and snow comes? I live somewhere REALLY hilly - no such thing as a flat route, and it can be treacherous in the winter. And I hate treadmills...


21/11/2011 at 12:13

Think positive Len, there will NOT be snow and ice this year!   To be honest I'm not worrying about it until we get any and then I'll probably see what I can do around the town where it's not so likely to be snowy and go to the gym for the rest.  I hate treadmills too, but you have to be prepared to adapt if necessary.  Will probably do some time on the tready and some on the cross trainer - apparently it's what Paula Radcliffe uses if she can't run so there must be some benefit in using it.  Mind you I guess I'm lucky in that living in Norfolk we don't get as much snow as elsewhere so I don't need as much of a contingency plan as those of you that live in 'op north' in the cold and wet

Training is going well so far, did a nice steady 8 miler on Saturday and I've got the Norwich half on Sunday so will be a good benchmark of where I am now

21/11/2011 at 12:28
I was supposed to be out on Saturday for 11.5 miles but a big blister on my toe (that had started to fill with blood) and a slightly sore shin/calf had me paranoid. Sat there with my foot up and bags of frozen vedge wrapped around my leg and decided this far out it was not worth tempting a serious injury so just did a very easy 5m jog to retrieve my car on Sunday morning. Thinking of joining a gym this week to do something different to just running outside as weight wont fall and wary of picking up injuries impact of 4 or 5 days running a week for the next 6 months.
21/11/2011 at 13:33
I heard that you only need to go out for a long run at the weekend. Maybe one or two other days for speed work or cross-training. Any opinions on this? I haven't even started training yet. But then again, I'm not looking to set the world alight with a fast time. Anything around 4.15hrs is fine.
21/11/2011 at 13:59
Len i am doing absolutely loads on the treadmill at the minute as i am out in afghanistan and its really horribly dusty if i get chance to run outside.  I hate treadmills also but have found if i listen to music on my ipod but watch the darts or football on the telly at the same time and cover up the time its bearable lol! when i first started even 10 minutes and i would be bored, but as i have increased the time, now half an hour feels more like 10 minutes and i did an hour and 20 on the treadmill the other week and ok i was a bit bored but not as bad as i thought it would be. heres hoping that puts your mind at ease a little bit lol.  I cannot wait to get back to the UK and run up a hill though!
21/11/2011 at 14:06
jdw2000 wrote (see)
I heard that you only need to go out for a long run at the weekend. Maybe one or two other days for speed work or cross-training. Any opinions on this? I haven't even started training yet. But then again, I'm not looking to set the world alight with a fast time. Anything around 4.15hrs is fine.

I'm only doing one long run a week, on a Saturday, then one night with my running club and if I can fit it in then I do another session in the week.  I also cross train at swimming three times a week and gymnastics once a week   I've never known it to be recommended to do more than one long run a week, but how many other run sessions you do seems to vary although generaly it seems to be recommended to do 2 on top of your long run.   I don't know how long you've been running or what distance you normally do, but I'm guessing you're fairly nifty if you're aiming for 4:15 and you haven't even started training yet!!  I reckon most of us on this thread would think 4:15 is very fast!
21/11/2011 at 14:10

Len - I'm going to get some of those things that you clip onto the bottom of your shoes to give you more grip. I have a pair of trail shoes as well which have more grip, so hopefully it'll be okay. I did run in the snow last year which was exciting, but also very beautiful and peaceful.

 Two stroke tart - sounds like training's going well - good luck with the HM on Sunday!

Suarez-7 blood filled blisters sound horrible. Hope it heals up soon.

JDW2000 yes, just 1 ever-increasing long run a week. If its your first marathon the you don't need to work on speed etc too  much, so the rest can be easy / recovery runs with maybe just 1 faster run. IMO

154wint - well done on using the treadmill so much. I've heard distraction is definitely the key! I've only been on a treadmill to have my gait analysed, and I nearly fell off then! 

Had a 10K race yesterday, kept telling myself it was my last chance to go FAST as it will all be slow from here-on-in. Got a shiney new PB and cracked 60 mins for the first time. Happy happy happy!

21/11/2011 at 22:03

LWJ - how did your 10k go on Saturday?  I tried to look out for you but could not spot you.  My half marathon went pretty well - I wasn't last! whoooooppp!  About 10th from last - but considering it was quite a professional race (didn't everyone look like elite atheletes?!) and I knocked off nearly 7 minutes from my half marathon I did 6 weeks ago - I was pretty pleased! 

AND two guys (I'm female - so I should be slower!) came up to me at the end to congratulate me on my run saying that they used me as a pace maker as I was steady throughout the race until the last three miles where I started to speed up and lost them.  So I was really proud!! 

So glad I've now run two half marathons - it makes me feel that running a marathon is not a completely unrealistic thing for me to do! 

21/11/2011 at 22:18

Hi Kaffeeg, well done!!!!  Brilliant news on the time, you must be over the moon.

The 10k went okay.  I knocked 3 minutes off my previous time but crossed the line at the same time as the half marathon winner - shows how far I've got to go!

There were definitely more elites than normal people!!

Sorry, you wouldn't have spotted me cos I managed to shrink my Stroke Association vest in the wash so I was just in my normal running gear.  

I definitely need to do a half sooner rather than later, I'm still not feeling too confident about the marathon and from what you've said, it sounds like a good confidence booster. 

21/11/2011 at 22:20
Well done LWJ and Kaffeeg
21/11/2011 at 22:24
Thanks Black and Tabby.    Well done on breaking 60 minutes, that's my goal but I'm still 9 minutes over.  Grr.
21/11/2011 at 22:26

LWJ - Congrats to you!  I wouldn't worry about the half marathon winner - at least you got cheers when you finished (even if it wasn't for you!).  By the time I finished - everyone had gone home!!

 It is deffinately a confidence booster.

 They are holding the same races there again on 3rd March - think I'm going to book in for the half marathon then too - might be good just before the marathon.

21/11/2011 at 22:28
thanks black and tabby!  Congrats on your race too!
21/11/2011 at 22:30

I've booked in for Silverstone in March to do the half - definitely good practice before London.  Think I might see if I can find one for January time too. 

That was a good flat course at Stratford, though a little on the boring side. 

Seriously well done on finishing though - it was a bit intimidating getting lapped by so many people!

21/11/2011 at 22:35

yeah, it is boring going round and round and round.  And lonely.  But I'm hoping that making it boring and lonely builds psychological stamina - if I can do that then hopefully running double the distance with lots of cheering on by people will be easier?????  Prob doesn't work - but I'm sticking to that theory.  For now anyways!

 It is very very intimidating getting lapped by so many people!  And not just once!

21/11/2011 at 22:41

I like your thinking, and I'm hoping for the crowd boost too! It's got to be a million more times exciting at London, than that course was.  

Yes, those couple of guys in the stripy vests lapped me a couple of times - even with me only doing two laps! ha ha.  Something to aspire to, I guess. 

22/11/2011 at 04:26
i need to find some halves to do in the new year, but i dont want to just turn up on my own to run on my own. I did that for a 10k last year and felt like a proper gooseberry lol!!

Last halves I have done that I enjoyed I went with 4 of my male mates and even though they had finished way before me, it was good cos they ran 400m from the finish to run in with me, they were all in the 1hr 30-40 bracket so had had a good 15 mins off before i was near the finish line lol!

Maybe I will have to find a running club that just does weekends near notts for when I am back in the UK.
22/11/2011 at 09:16

Hi 154,

I'm not too far from Notts (Shropshire) so I'll be looking for half marathons round the Midlands if you want to meet up.

I had to go to Stratford for the 10k on my own cos my husband broke his ribs a few days before and couldn't sit in the car for that long, and it isn't much fun turning up on your own!

22/11/2011 at 09:59

Morning all!

I did my first half hour run without a walking break in MONTHS this morning, so I'm really pleased - should be good to go for starting my proper training in December!

I did think about doing a Half but I'm also mildly worried that I'd hate it or struggle and it might put me off for life lol. I've done a few big 10k's (the Jane Tomlinson races in Leeds and York) so that will have to do me for race experience!

Right - it's NOT going to snow this year. Not at all. Nuh-huh! (I've got some trail shoes, I'll try those in the snow...I really do hate treadmills!). 

22/11/2011 at 10:16

I was lapped on Sunday - we had 3 and a bit laps of Castle Combe race circuit, so again quite boring to run on. I was still on my 2nd lap when people started passing me. never mind - all good for toughening up your resolve!

I've been to a few races on my own. I usually drag family with me, but often run on my own. In fact, thinking about it, all my PBs have been in races I've run on my own - guess I talk too much otherwise! I'm always very nervous before a race, so the few I've gone on my own I've not minded really - I usually end up standing in the loo queue several times anyway

I've entered the Bath HM  on 11th Mach - same date as Silverstone, which is billed as ideal timing for VLM.

Len - well done on your 30 minutes. A good basis for your 'proper' training!

154wint - that was good of your mates - a running escort to the finish!

kaffeeg - I think that's a very good theory. Definitely easier with support

LWJ - I last raced at this same circuit 2 1/2 years ago - was my first race and I came last. This time took 5 1/2 minutes off - so its very achievable

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