5 weeks to go until my first marathon.
When decided to run this was thinking sub 4:00 would be ok for first one (then had HM pb 1:36)
Training started to go ok and decided to try for 3:30 ish have managed all training sessions for this time-all have felt ok-gone slightly faster on intervals and LSR
Yesterday may marathon plan said sub 1:37 HM in middle of 16 mile run, i decided to run it as a time trial not 100% effort all the way but close by the end.
I ended up with 1:29:50 for the 13.1 miles and a avarage pace of 6:58 for the 16 miles.
If i put this into a calculator this suggest a sub 3:10 marathon!
I would love to get sub 3:15 and a GFA time but I am very worried about blowing up towards the end of the race.
What should I do? Go out at 3:15 pace and try to hold on-how bad could i feel if this goes wrong? I am talking something like 20 miles @3:15 pace then blowing and the last 6.2 a bit slower so still making current goal of 3:30 ish or is it more likely to be blowing and last 6.2 very slow / walking and struggling to get sub 4:00??
I am going to try mid distance tri's next year so this although my first maraton could be my last for a while (unless get GFA time)
Are you training for a mara yet, if so how are your longer runs going?
Ok, that's looking good. I would suggest if it continues that you aim for 3.15, even pace and fuel well. The guys that I've been doing my long runs with are running 7.10 pace aiming for sub 3 mara. I tend to drop off that pace for the long runs after about 10 miles and then end up at av your pace, and I'm aiming for 3.10 at London (well i was before I missed a shed load of runs because of illness).
My best half is 1.28.10, and from that all being well i would have aimed for 3.10. I think you should go for it.
However I only need 3.... whatever for GFA being devoid of a knob, it's so much harder for men. Good luck
thats impressive half time since it was not under race conditions
if you have got the training in and you are not dead after the long runs I would say definitely go for the 3:15
Oh and your first sentence said when you were going for your mara, damn my skim reading
running eye wrote (see)
Thanks KK your skim reading is like my listening- or so my wife would say!! Looking like going for 3:15 then as long as next few weeks of training goes ok
Yeah I think you should be confident, we have a young guy in our club who has a similar history and he just did 3.07 in Paris. As long as you can mentally dig deep when your body is sending you conflicting messages, you'll be good.
I'm 42 also, I just assumed you were younger...
It's possible at our advanced age.
With steroids, fairy dust and alcohol.
If you can time-trial a sub-1:30 HM in training I think 3:15 is definitely on. I agree with A-r, try and add in 5 miles @ target pace towards the end of a long run, and/or do another mid-long run as before, 16 with 13 @ target pace, keep an eye on splits and really try to hit target pace, ideally tracking heart rate as well. If you can complete that run feeling relatively comfortable, HR nice and steady, etc. this will be very good confidence for holding the pace during the race.
A-r - That's a crazy conversion. Go out and run 1:22 please!
I think that if you can run a 1:29:50 HM in the middle of a 16 mile training run, then in a HM race you should be looking at significantly quicker, ie 1:25ish.
I am looking at a 1:22/1:23 HM next time out and wouldn't fancy trying to run 1:29 in training (and I wouldn't recommend doing it too often).
Assuming the above I would have though 3:15 is definitely within your capabilities.
did a interval session monday which plan (for a sub 3:30) said
7 miles with 5*1 miles @7:00 miles pace
ran the intervals @
6:43 slight up hill
7:13 200 foot climb
7:07 210 foot climb
5:53 100 foot of decline
6:08 slight decline
Av of around 6:30 ish
wanted to push to test if a sub 3:15 is on. Not sure what the spilts tell me though??
My long run Friday is 22 miles will look at running last 5-6 at 7:20 pace.
And that sound a good idea Phil I think next week (last week before tapper) I will swop a speed session for that 13 miles @ target pace
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