2012 Marathon thread - Page 20 - Training

MoscowFlyer

20/12/2011 at 20:45

I should add that all I've ever know in terms of training is the RW schedules, which always gave me a couple of fast sessions a week, so I'm still adapting to trying something new and it's early days so will take a month or so to get out of old habits/routines I guess. I'm not used to doing the faster stuff slower.

Gobi

20/12/2011 at 20:46

MF - I know :¬)

jason d

20/12/2011 at 20:52

MF- seems you have a plan

Gobi- thanks Think I might have a new half pace

Gobi

20/12/2011 at 20:55

Jason - I would start out working to only just quicker than current so that you are in control. Like MF you always need to feel you could go a lot quicker.

jason d

20/12/2011 at 20:59

Gobi- absolutely

MoscowFlyer

20/12/2011 at 21:03

At least I'm now starting to recognise that. Usually after intervals I look at whether I could have given it a bit more and felt disappointed if I felt it was only 90 or 95%. This morning I knew I'd gone too fast, it's just a case of controlling that during the run itself.

Still struggling to get away from the mindset that if I don't train fast, I won't race fast.

jason d

20/12/2011 at 21:10

MF- keep struggling Got my first sub 3 this year largely off running slower miles (with Gobi's advice). Fastest intervals (following modified P&D plan) were run at 5k pace

G- remember now about the tempo lite idea, so might start off by running MP for parts of midweek MLR runs for a couple of weeks-??

Edited: 20/12/2011 at 21:15

MoscowFlyer

20/12/2011 at 21:13

Funnily enough I could see Gobi sitting on my shoulder for the last rep telling me to slow down

Gobi

20/12/2011 at 21:18

It's working :¬)

Brolish

20/12/2011 at 21:46

Grrr crap track session tonight. Probably not quite recovered from saturday's xc and Sunday's 13 miler. My legs felt heavy and tight after the first one of 5x 5 min intervals. Oh well. Will be my last track effort for a while. From jan it's p&d all the way.

rachael leach

21/12/2011 at 07:18

Hi guys, sorry I aint been around for a while, my foot has got much worse . Hoping to get to see a doctor tonight, its a nightmare to get an appointment at my docs, and darent ask for an hour off work - theyd shoot me! Went to see a chiropodist last night about it, read that it was £27.50 per half an hour! Anyways sat in the waiting room for my appointment for best part of 40mins and got mad and walked out! I'll maybe regret it after today but I have no patience.

Hows everyone doing I see theres lots of intervals etc going on!

Brolish

21/12/2011 at 09:04

Morning everyone

Rachael- sorry to hear about the foot. Annoying when they charge you so much and then you have to wait for 40min... not acceptable. Hope you get it sorted soon.

Gobi- have been reading your blog. Interesting stuff. How does your coaching online work? Is it just people you know or do you actually have a website etc. And what do you need to do to get silver at the Comrades? Is it to do with the position or how many times you completed it?

8k recovery run for me tonight and a bit of core. Easy 8miles from work on Thursday and into work on Friday and hopefully a parkrun on Saturday morning before the eating and drinking commences. Can't wait to start the schedule now, I think I know it by heart

MoscowFlyer

21/12/2011 at 09:32

8 miles at 8:31 pace this morning, never really got into it and felt pretty sluggish but it's done and dusted. Surprised me how mild it was this morning despite the rain.

Topped up with seven miles on the bike.

Gobi

21/12/2011 at 10:16

Mon - no website I coach through recommendation and word of mouth.
In a nutshell I use email/telephones/twitter etc to keep in touch with athletes and I write tailored plans on a weekly basis.

To get a silver at Comrades is simple just run 90kms over a number of mountains in under 7hours and 30 minutes :¬)

Another 10.4 miles for me this morning at about 8.30 pace average.

Brolish

21/12/2011 at 11:04

Is it up or down the mountain you'll be going next year?

Brolish

21/12/2011 at 11:20

I mean isn't it normally more uphill one year and more downhill the following one?

Gobi

21/12/2011 at 11:48

Mon - yes and this is a down year which is not my best way :¬)

Brolish

21/12/2011 at 12:02

Typical. I wanted to do the VLM next year but didn't get in through the ballot and got GFA too late to apply for a guaranteed place (it was Amsterdam in October). I asked at the club if there is a chance of getting a place but it seemed like there was a long queue of people and it was all very 'We can't really say, the decision will be made in Jan'. So I thought- no point waiting, not really bothered that much about London, will find another spring mara. Can always do London in 2013 with GFA. And now that I set my mind (and signed up) to do Copenhagen in May it looks like there is a place for me to grab... What do I do? Running both surely wouldn't be a good idea?

No Pain

21/12/2011 at 13:40

Managed 15 miles on the dreadmill at work at 6am this morning just a little under 8:00 pace.
Mon 77 I was in the same position a couple of years ago and got the GFA time to late it will soon fly by and come round.
98 miles short of 2500 for the year so it's full steam ahead to get 2500 done

Teknik

21/12/2011 at 14:13

Mon: 18 weeks (on Monday) until VLM so you could start P&D right NOW!

Rachael: Hope you get it sorted soon.

NP: that's just awesome

Rest day for me...