2012 Marathon thread

Tek - brave call to ignore HR if it's "bad"  especially if you're training revolves around it. I wasn't that brave in my only race to date but i guess it's something that comes with experience. Glad your HR went well and take care of the knee.

jason - i'm not surprised some of them downhills looked more brutal than the uphills . Out of interest, how much of the race was off road ?

F: Frankfurt was good - everyone I know who ran it PBd. It's all tarmac, closed roads, very flat, well organised, not overcrowded, but I guess my opinion is driven by the result - Berlin is bigger, with bigger crowds, more bands on the roadside - but September can be very warm, which is why I plumped for October and Frankfurt.  Running in 1C to 2C meant the HR stayed low!!

plus I got to wave at Patrick Makau (there are quite a few out-and-back bits)

Sounds great Tek, could be one for next year. I did Berlin in 2009 and it was torrential rain!

Hope the recover goes well jason. Are you cutting back for a few weeks or is there another marathon on the horizon?

F

Jason,

My races for next year are going back to the usual, 2.5 miles in May, 5 miles in June, 5k in September & club championship 10k in October.  There's hopefully going to be a fair few parkruns done also.

Teknik,  I love the report...especially the Spar-ta bit at the beginning. You were pumped. We have a couple of similarities. I started to get muscle cramps and had to ease off a bit. These started earlier for me. However I read in a book that these occur when you are on/just above your  threshold in a marathon and its yours bodys way of keeping you on check. So whilts its possible that you could have gained a few extra minutes to say 3:45 you were pretty close to your threshold. This just goes to show how great you paced it. 

The second is the knee thing. I had a sore knee afterwards. Turned out to be ITB. A week or so of foam roller sorted it. I have a theory that this is partially due to the hadd training. As we both trained mostly at 70% then the gait/stride pattern/stress is slightly different to that at 80%+ - hence the stress to the ITB.  This is why I plan a decent 8-12M weekly run 80% to try and improve this side of things.  ( My theory is probably flawed )

Jason, next year I have brighton and Berlin booked and planned. I Also have 2 Half Marathons in March - Warwick And Silverston. Warwick is undulating and will be a MP/progression Run after a 7 mile warm up and Silverston will be eyeballs out to help determine what my MP should be.

AGF I think you're spot on again...HR was spiking up when I picked up the pace at the end, so I guess the lactate went up with it; the knee must be ITB.  I agree with you about the lack of sub-LT (Hadd), although I did switch to P&D and did the LT runs (higher HR but much shorter) as well as the mara-pace finishes to LR's (at 80%)...it was a bit sporadic, I admit - so I think I'll pencil in a weekly sub-LT run this time (won't be able to handle two).

[Sorry all for the mumbo jumbo]

Glad you had a nice day with junior, Jason, and that the legs are feeling better

F I would have much preferred the rain!!

HM have you signed up for Insanity yet?

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Mulling over the plan now. I think I'll go back to slow base training, with one weekly leg stretch at 80%. January I'll join the club for Half Mara training (basically a race every Sunday, flat out from 6m building up to 11m) then aim to mueller my Half time.  If that goes well, I'll find a flat April / May mara and aim for a faster mara time.  If not, I'll just go back to Halstead and collect the sub4 they owe me 

A quick recovery jason.

Love all the post race analysis!

VLM for me  then must plan something in autumn, I enjoyed Amsterdam and there are direct flights from Inverness so might go for that. I ran Berlin after 8 weeks of no running so may be good to try that one with some decent training through the summer. Also Inverness half in March and a 10 mile Turkey Trot on 9th December. There is normally a half in February that I do between two RAF bases but the date is not out yet.

4 miles easy last night then tonight 7 miles with 6 lots of 1k at 15k/hr and 200m recoveries. Should really go and stretch.

F

Lots going on as usual!

I tried my first run post Amsterdam last night, and I must say not good. Still far from well but I know its a long journey ahead. There will be lots of slow running for the next few months whether I like it or not.

Plans for next year......Inverness Half again in March, Pairs again in April, The Devil O the Highlands Footrace in August and Berlin in September..........Robbing a bank very shortly!!

Hopefully with some TLC I will be fully recovered to start training again properly in December.

Tek,

Not yet.  I want to get back running a bit first.

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Good luck with everyone's plans for next year.

Kaz/Fiona. FYI if you do decide to do Berlin....

Berlin Sold out in its original registration period in 3 hours. However some tour operators have places left..

However it is expected that placed will come free again. Link and text below

http://www.bmw-berlin-marathon.com/en/news-and-media/news/2012/10/25/sold-out-40000-runners-registered-for-the-2013-bmw-berlin-marathon-within-three-and-a-half-hours.html

2012-10-25

Registration for the 2013 BMW BERLIN MARATHON is closed. The participation limit of  40,000 was reached after three and a half hours.

Several tour operators still have some bib numbers left.

All pre-registered receive an email with a personal code and have to perform their final registration between November 5th and 9th (Paps test, any desired extras).

On November 16th information will be provided (via website, Facebook/Twitter and newsletter) on how many spots in each of the three categories will be open again for registration.
On November 17th at 6 p.m. those remaining spots are open again for registration.

blimey

Blimey indeed! Last time I booked it as a short break with 2:09 Events so was not aware of the demand. Thanks for that AGF, just as well I did not start planning.  

Fingers crossed for a swift recovery kaz, sounds like you need a good rest before the Paris build up.

F

Just confirmed my Berlin Place, emails out earlier than expected!!

Yes I think I will have to rest, home from work early feeling awful but I am wondering if it is the cold?? Work was absolutely freezing??

Well done on getting the Berlin place Kaz. Get well soon...

Frankfurt finish...