Tek - brave call to ignore HR if it's "bad" especially if you're training revolves around it. I wasn't that brave in my only race to date but i guess it's something that comes with experience. Glad your HR went well and take care of the knee.
jason - i'm not surprised some of them downhills looked more brutal than the uphills . Out of interest, how much of the race was off road ?
F: Frankfurt was good - everyone I know who ran it PBd. It's all tarmac, closed roads, very flat, well organised, not overcrowded, but I guess my opinion is driven by the result - Berlin is bigger, with bigger crowds, more bands on the roadside - but September can be very warm, which is why I plumped for October and Frankfurt. Running in 1C to 2C meant the HR stayed low!!
plus I got to wave at Patrick Makau (there are quite a few out-and-back bits)
Sounds great Tek, could be one for next year. I did Berlin in 2009 and it was torrential rain!
Hope the recover goes well jason. Are you cutting back for a few weeks or is there another marathon on the horizon?
My races for next year are going back to the usual, 2.5 miles in May, 5 miles in June, 5k in September & club championship 10k in October. There's hopefully going to be a fair few parkruns done also.
Teknik, I love the report...especially the Spar-ta bit at the beginning. You were pumped. We have a couple of similarities. I started to get muscle cramps and had to ease off a bit. These started earlier for me. However I read in a book that these occur when you are on/just above your threshold in a marathon and its yours bodys way of keeping you on check. So whilts its possible that you could have gained a few extra minutes to say 3:45 you were pretty close to your threshold. This just goes to show how great you paced it.
The second is the knee thing. I had a sore knee afterwards. Turned out to be ITB. A week or so of foam roller sorted it. I have a theory that this is partially due to the hadd training. As we both trained mostly at 70% then the gait/stride pattern/stress is slightly different to that at 80%+ - hence the stress to the ITB. This is why I plan a decent 8-12M weekly run 80% to try and improve this side of things. ( My theory is probably flawed )
Jason, next year I have brighton and Berlin booked and planned. I Also have 2 Half Marathons in March - Warwick And Silverston. Warwick is undulating and will be a MP/progression Run after a 7 mile warm up and Silverston will be eyeballs out to help determine what my MP should be.
AGF I think you're spot on again...HR was spiking up when I picked up the pace at the end, so I guess the lactate went up with it; the knee must be ITB. I agree with you about the lack of sub-LT (Hadd), although I did switch to P&D and did the LT runs (higher HR but much shorter) as well as the mara-pace finishes to LR's (at 80%)...it was a bit sporadic, I admit - so I think I'll pencil in a weekly sub-LT run this time (won't be able to handle two).
[Sorry all for the mumbo jumbo]
Glad you had a nice day with junior, Jason, and that the legs are feeling better
F I would have much preferred the rain!!
HM have you signed up for Insanity yet?
Mulling over the plan now. I think I'll go back to slow base training, with one weekly leg stretch at 80%. January I'll join the club for Half Mara training (basically a race every Sunday, flat out from 6m building up to 11m) then aim to mueller my Half time. If that goes well, I'll find a flat April / May mara and aim for a faster mara time. If not, I'll just go back to Halstead and collect the sub4 they owe me
A quick recovery jason.
Love all the post race analysis!
VLM for me then must plan something in autumn, I enjoyed Amsterdam and there are direct flights from Inverness so might go for that. I ran Berlin after 8 weeks of no running so may be good to try that one with some decent training through the summer. Also Inverness half in March and a 10 mile Turkey Trot on 9th December. There is normally a half in February that I do between two RAF bases but the date is not out yet.
4 miles easy last night then tonight 7 miles with 6 lots of 1k at 15k/hr and 200m recoveries. Should really go and stretch.
Lots going on as usual!
I tried my first run post Amsterdam last night, and I must say not good. Still far from well but I know its a long journey ahead. There will be lots of slow running for the next few months whether I like it or not.
Plans for next year......Inverness Half again in March, Pairs again in April, The Devil O the Highlands Footrace in August and Berlin in September..........Robbing a bank very shortly!!
Hopefully with some TLC I will be fully recovered to start training again properly in December.
Not yet. I want to get back running a bit first.
Good luck with everyone's plans for next year.
Kaz/Fiona. FYI if you do decide to do Berlin....
Berlin Sold out in its original registration period in 3 hours. However some tour operators have places left..
However it is expected that placed will come free again. Link and text below
Registration for the 2013 BMW BERLIN MARATHON is closed. The participation limit of 40,000 was reached after three and a half hours.
Several tour operators still have some bib numbers left.
All pre-registered receive an email with a personal code and have to perform their final registration between November 5th and 9th (Paps test, any desired extras).
On November 16th information will be provided (via website, Facebook/Twitter and newsletter) on how many spots in each of the three categories will be open again for registration. On November 17th at 6 p.m. those remaining spots are open again for registration.
Blimey indeed! Last time I booked it as a short break with 2:09 Events so was not aware of the demand. Thanks for that AGF, just as well I did not start planning.
Fingers crossed for a swift recovery kaz, sounds like you need a good rest before the Paris build up.
Just confirmed my Berlin Place, emails out earlier than expected!!
Yes I think I will have to rest, home from work early feeling awful but I am wondering if it is the cold?? Work was absolutely freezing??
Well done on getting the Berlin place Kaz. Get well soon...
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