2012 Marathon thread

Be careful Stuart...... At least your running is going well - even if you are injuring yourself when not running !! 

A parkrun for me this morning. 20:54. Less than 30 secs below from PB shape - which I am pleased with as I was hoping to be within 1 minute as just coming back from injury. So A line drawn the sand and hopefully with 8 Weeks consistent training I can get a PB in the new year 

Nice parkrun AGF. 

6 miles, inc. parkrun @ ~21.20 this morning. Not too happy with this. Wanted a PB before my birthday (so I'm down to one more attempt), but after running the 1st 2 miles reasonable well, I inexplicably cruised the last mile and a bit. I think possibly as I realised I couldn't catch the girl I was chasing...

Jason - what's the mileage plan this month?

AGF - nice parkie!

HM - good plan

Stuart - Ouch. I gave up chasing girls a long while ago. You'll do it next time!

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6m with the club.  HR still very elevated post-marathon, knee back on ice...

Stuart,

Careful. Well done on the training.

AGF,

Well done.

Tek,

Thanks.  Hope it works.

Nice to see you back NP  Such a good thing to do for Kelly, she must be over the moon! Hope the wrist settles down and you get a great 6 weeks training!

Seems to be a lot of massage going around so I'm booked in for next Tuesday, first one in about 2 years and looking forward to it!

Nice parkrunning AGF and Stuart.

Take care of that knee Teknik.

14 miles for me in beautiful sunshine this morning. Cold and a bit breezy but so good to be out with blue skies and snow capped mountains in the distance.

Thinking about next year and PB's - any theories out there on what got you to a marathon PB - consistent miles, speedy short stuff, a lot of long runs, cross training......?  I know we are all different but I'll be trying to train smarter for VLM. Thinking that my 1st marathon was 3:34 so pretty shabby that I've only taken 14 minutes off when you guys all take chunks off your time!! 

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Had a couple of weeks of easy running avg 10.26 pace and its all very nice and relaxing,back up to 25 mpw by next weekend .

Tek ive had a look at the Hadd training and am hoping to get out next week and do a max hr test .Ive wore the Hr strap on most of my runs and average hr has worked out at 138 bpm.But i suppose i cant be sure of effort until i test max hr.

Although the trainings felt easy pace i couldnt resist a few cheeky faster miles at the end of a 7 miler today just too see if the legs still had basic speed in them.Quite a hard effort but it felt good.

My Dad put me through a session of "old school football training " last night at the gym with the medicine ball.Ached a bit afterwards.According to him all this modern training is for big Nancy boys and hes adamant that the "old way" will get you fitter faster.

He scoffs at the idea of protein /recovery shakes and said a big plate of stew ,tatties ,and veg  is all you need to recover from hard sessions lol

Swim in 6C today followed by 7.5 miles.
Hadn't allowed for tide and came out to wet towels and a camera

Teknik wrote (see)

Stuart - Ouch. I gave up chasing girls a long while ago. You'll do it next time!

LOL
Certainly a bit Parkie here!

Stuart, you will ctach her next time whats your PB?

Look after your knee Tek - can imagine that marathon may still be in your legs !!

Thanks HM4

Sounds like a nice run Fiona. I love Autumn for exacty the type of run you mentioned  I think your your more qualified than me about running faster...but I think 2 things are required to make "breakthroughs".... the first is that you need to do something different to what you normally do. If you do the same then you get the same results or minor improvement.  The second is that the only consistent main correlation between better times and another variable is "miles". Eg if you run more miles you run faster times. For me the only way I can do that is it run most of those miles in a Hadd way. ( eg slow - aerobic) or I get injured. Its takes up a lot of time though Jason and NP et al will undoubtably give better advise.....just a view.

YC, nice to see your building up and your still highly motivated after the marathon. I agree with your dad that a lot of the products on the market ( eg lucozade etc are a waste of time. Some of the old ways do work....and hey-  if medicine balls work for Rocky - then maybe theres something to it too  

Ps - I sometimes put the rocky music on my ipod shuffle and if it plays on a run I always speed up regardless of the type of run

OH - sounds cold.....hope the run warmed you up !!

Certainly is a bit Parkie here today indeed OH!!

I would not of liked to have been swimming in the sea

Junior had netball league this morning, so I did a run in your area OH, but never saw anyone else. It was a nice change, although I probably did a bit much

AGF whether it works or not reamains to be seen,i just thought i would give him his place and let him explain to me how he used to train a few years back.Hes 57 and still plays 5 a sides once a week with a couple of gym visits  a week as well.He dosent get the running thing though as for him all his running was mostly short sprints and efforts and probaably didnt enjoy it.

Not 100 per cent yet but im thinking along the lines of a spring marathon at the minute,possibly Lochaber.See how winter running goes first.I know theres a sub 4 in me somewhere just need to find it first.

Kaz - JS group went to S Ron although Els did a run around town somewhere

Mmm need to sart thinking about 2013

Tek - Haha! Hope the knee is ok.

Jason - 6 mile tempo run so soon after a mara sounds a bit tough for my liking! Though I do detest fast running...

Fiona - Well done

YC - Nice run, and gym sesh

AGF - The lassie in question is actually slightly slower than me. My original plan had been to use her as a pacer, as I know she consistently runs low 21s. I decided against it when I seen the pace she went off at. I'd have blew up big style if I followed her through the 1st mile.

My PB is 20.56, actually thats a course best, as I ran a faster 5k during my last 10k (20.3x I think my 2nd 5 was) but I don't really care about that...

OH - Good run, not sure about the swim though!

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Gym this afternoon, upper body pull. Quick and easy. Jumped on the scales, 75.5kg, 3 kilos lighter than I was at Loch Ness.

Fiona- Most of my training ahs been based on P&D. If i had to pick 1 factor, it would be (relatively) high mileage. Though I am now going to spend the next few months concentrating on tempo runs and intervals to try and improve my 10k/half times before building up mileage again with 12 week P&D for London

Anyone (yc) looking for a spring mara with potential for being fast should check out the Llanelli Marathon in my neck of the woods- 2 laps and follows the Millenium coastal path and is flat apart from a couple of bridges which cross the railway. the only thing is that it's exposed to the elements- but it's been baking hot for the last 2 years!! Got my first GFA there back in 2010. On same day as london this year, so handy for training with any VLMers you know

Thought again about the tempo and went out, after dark, with it in mind. Plan was to do a 4m warm up then 4m tempo and 1m warm down. Did the 4m warm up before deciding to wait a bit longer before introducing speed again. legs feeling good, but don't want to push it Think I'll do 12 easy tomorrow

Jason,

Well done.

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Hope it's dry for everyone's runs as it's chucking it down here.

Thanks for the thoughts on training guys. Think that will be the way forward - to do something different (AGF) this morning I booked my induction for the free weights room next Friday. The trainer there reckons that squats with weights etc will really help my running. For VLM I'll definitely structure my training around P & D and get the miles as high as I can without injury. That is always the problem for me but if I do weights and spin/turbo/metafit I hope that helps avoid injury. It will be a very different mix of training so it'll be interesting to see how I get on at VLM and in the autumn.  Can't wait for 2013!

Lots of good running, swimming (brrr), cross training and kayaking going on.

A beautiful morning here again, hope it brightens up with you HM4. Did spin and then 2 metafit classes. Got a Christmas cake to bake and will see if I do another run. Might leave it as clocked 40 miles this week - highest since 9th January pre injury!!

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jason - nice running, hope the 12 went ok today

Fiona - good training and well done on the week's total

YC nice running - good luck with your Dad's training and the HR test.

OH nice swim (eek!) and run. Enjoy the kayaking...

AGF like the Rocky idea

Kaz glad you're feeling better

Stuart good weight loss!!

HM pouring here too - which made my mind up...

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...no running here today - need to rest the knee

6.1 miles nice and slow this morning. Possible gym session later, but more likely pub session. 35 miles and gym twice this week for me. Happy enough with that