2012 Marathon thread

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29/11/2012 at 19:29

7 icy miles partly with JS group tonight

Good going Jason (as usual)

Nice to have company AGF


29/11/2012 at 19:48

1 mile w/u then 2 miles (6.59, 6.47), 5 minute recovery jog, then another 2 miles (6.56, 6.52), and mile w/d. Ideally i'd have had a slightly longer w/u but it is utterly freezing here, couldn't feel my hands after 3 or 4 minutes.

29/11/2012 at 19:55
Hi HY4, I will try and post tomorrow when on my PC.
Good running Oh, sounds cold !!
Hi JayC, well done on your run. sounds like a tough race. The run went well. Very well. We took quite a time to choose the right dog and turned down 2 we visited with intention to buy. We are lucky that lulu is basically trained at 16 months. She is a small gundog. Brilliant in house. Very calm, will sit and stay before eating when instructed, walks to heel, sits to whistle etc. etc. She does like birds and if was not on lead might have taken flight a couple of times to chase. I hope to have her trained to recall in a couple of months. If so she will be off lead when running too.... In short she ean well on the lead and was great company. we are chuffed to bits. Wife has never had pets and she is smitten
Edited: 29/11/2012 at 19:57
29/11/2012 at 20:19

Sounds like great fun AGF, looking forward to seeing her picture.

5 miles last night with 3 at 7mm pace and an easy 5 miles this morning. First early run in ages and although too busy to run tonight it'll be good practice for doing doubles later on in the VLM build up!


29/11/2012 at 21:01
Jcmore nice running.
OH icy here as we'll slipped and skidded about bait this morning.
AGF sounds like you have found the perfect pet the girl I did Dublin marathon runs with her dog but max of 14 miles as its getting on a bit now.
Fiona well done with the run I was to double up only 4 miles tonight but will do 6 with a mate tomorrow lunch time instead.
Got a real nice e-mail from Tony of Tonys Trials/Emerdale/marathon talk I had sent three video clips in of our run up my hill at the weekend but I was late in sending them in, it was very good of him to take the time to reply.
29/11/2012 at 23:14

Sleepwalker 20 Race Report - Saturday 24th November 6pm - Talybont-On-Usk.

A miserable day of rain, rain and er, more rain. Travelling up in the car was interesting enough, with the single road across the top from Ebbw Vale to Llangynidr having visibility down to about 20 feet, low cloud not helping on a road full of sharp bends with steep drops and no guard rails  

On arriving at Henderson Hall I was greeted, as in the 2011 event, by a room full of serious looking runners. At registration I was asked to go for a random kit check but Duncan said that he wasn't doing any more and it was on my own cognisance. I'm a good boy though, so had all the mandatory kit, plus some extra bits that I though might come in handy, most notably an Edge 800 GPS with full OS mapping and route data stored.

Pre race briefing described very wet conditions (not surprising really) and an enforced detour at Taf Fechan forestry due to Larch Fungal disease. This meant a roughly 10 minute addition to course time. We were told to abide by the forestry commission wishes and follow the diversion which was one of the few places with tape to mark the way. Other than that they had reduced the amount of course markers to major decision points only. I'm quite glad I know the area fairly well or I'd have been filled with trepidation...

At 5:50 we all trooped over to the canalside towpath for the start. Headtorches flickering in to life mine didn't want to play ball. Bugger. I didn't want to have to 'DNF' this early . Fortunately, undoing the battery pack and fiddling randomly in the dim light got it working - I did pray that it would last though and it was in the back of my mind for most of the run. There isn't much light in the Brecon Beacons without one!

The first half mile or so was fairly easy going, a small crowd of participants partners and children cheering us over the canal bridge and off into the darkness of the first 3 mile climb up the Brinore Tramroad. This is usually a well surfaced track but was, essentially, a stream. No chance of keeping feet dry for a reasonable distance and I was regretting wearing GoreTex trainers as mine were doing a damn fine job of keeping the water in! After passing CP1 a rough, rocky descent led to the best off road surface of the evening, a 3 mile fireroad climb to Torpantau. The next few miles were a mix of forestry track and singletrack road, best described as gently undulating which led to CP2 below the Neuadd Reservoirs. Crossing the dam I missed the (not so) obvious path and ended up on the grass dam wall, the outflow to my left and glancing back, other runners about 100ft above and behind me. A diagonal goat-style trot brought me back on track the far side of the dam.

The next section is best described as a bog. Up over the knees at point, crossing fast flowing streams and with little way of knowing what would happen to each footfall it was a relief to reach a more stable forestry track alongside Pentwyn Reservoir. Crossing between Pentwyn and Pontsticill Reservoir CP3 loomed out of the darkness. A warm tea and Eat Natural bar being the reward of the previous 12.5 miles efforts.

The steepest, most technical climb up Dolygaer pops out onto the track at the far end of Brinau Gleisson. The moorland was misty and fairly disorientating with the light of the headtorches reflecting back and further limiting any ability to distinguish your position. The Edge 800 proved it's worth a couple of times, most importantly a quick glance telling me and several runners to turn left when we reached a point with no obvious choice [it's a good event for cameraderie].

Edited: 29/11/2012 at 23:15
29/11/2012 at 23:15

The crags of Darren Fach led to a rocky double track with deep puddles and a need for determined concentration due to it's uneven and technical surface. After a few miles it was a pleasure to reach CP4. From there on it's a free-for-all where, provided you keep Talybont Reservoir on your left, you can pick and choose your route. I followed the outward climb back down, but it felt harder than at the start. Tiredness leading to a few stumbles and countless turns of the left ankle on rocks hidden by rushing water. The baleful lights of Talybont are a welcoming sight and a (very) tired set of runners arrived back at the end.

Warm showers, dry clothes, a few cups of tea and a good spread of cakes made us feel human again.

All in all. Very enjoyable. Tough. But worth it.

Finished in 3:15:53 and 13th of 74 finishers, ten of whom were unlucky enough to have 'DNF' on the results as they were outside the 5:10 cut off time.

Despite telling myself to the contrary, I fully expect to be back again on Nov 23rd 2013, health and well being not-with-standing.

It's such a unique event it's well worth doing so if you fancy having a go, sign up and I'll see you there


Edited: 29/11/2012 at 23:51
30/11/2012 at 09:49
Great race report Jayc and will have a look at the Garmin activity but it sounds like great fell running.
30/11/2012 at 12:03

Thats A great report JayC. and 13th place is very very credible. Top running !!

30/11/2012 at 12:04

Lulu - My new running Partner

Edited: 30/11/2012 at 12:04
30/11/2012 at 12:05

 and another photo....

NP.  I think I might be seeing everything through rose tinted glases.   I have not mentioned the downsides..... The shredding of air, the occasional dog "parp" and fact that when she goes down to the shops on her own to collect my daily paper she sometimes comes back with the daily mirror...and I thought I had here trained

Edited: 30/11/2012 at 12:08
30/11/2012 at 12:39

Great report JCM
Sounds a bit hard on the technical DNFs

Nice pictures of nice dog AGF

30/11/2012 at 16:19

AGF - what a beautiful Lab. She's got that "butter wouldn't melt in my mouth" look but I bet she likes a good chew. Has she started on your skirting boards yet

OH - I agree. They can get their finishing time, so the organisers do record it so I can't see any reason to give them a 'DNF'. It'd be different if the cut off was at a course checkpoint and they were stopped at that point and brought back by vehicle [I think that happens on the Dursley Dozen].

Edited: 30/11/2012 at 16:32
30/11/2012 at 18:27


Well done.


Great pictures.  She looks like she could be a little madam.

30/11/2012 at 18:35
1km swim and just over 6 miles run.
AGF great photos just look at them big eyes it amazes me how some people can be cruel to animals. But I bet she can't iron or do the shopping
30/11/2012 at 19:53

Lovely photos AGF and great that she has settled in so well.

Rest day today, can feel the effect of the weights I did yesterday, squats with 30kg. Have bruises on the bones on my shoulders today, think I did it wrong!

Another good day's training NP, when does the plaster come off?

Great report jaycm and sounds like a tough race run well.

Looking forward to the weekend.

30/11/2012 at 20:17

Fioan I cant wait for this thing to come off i have had enough already....

30/11/2012 at 20:40

Jayc- great running and report

AGF- Not really a doggy person, but she does look cute

NP- nice running and swimming

Fiona- nice running- hope the bruises fade quickly!

Nothing much here- couple of days of recovery runs. Got Gwent league cross-country in Blaise Castle, Bristol tomorrow

30/11/2012 at 22:13

Jay - Well done on the race! Course sounds a bit brave though!

AGF - Nice pics of the dog

NP - Good training

Fiona - Were you doing squats with the bar across your back, or front? Never had bruises on the shoulders with the bar on my back, but round the front is a different matter. Even with a much lighter load.

Jason - Good luck tomorrow


3 miles on the treadmill and some upper body weights for me today. 

Aiming for a pb at parkrun tomorrow, would like under 20.30, but 20.44 will do! My brother has a more ambitious target of 17.xx, off an 18.42 pb.

01/12/2012 at 11:20

Thank you for your generous comments guys. We are well pleased with her. Today we did the local parkrun and she was as good as gold and did not interfere with any of the other runners at all or bark. She also came in first dog of 5. 

I hope you got yout PB stuart. ??

These weighst will definatley benefit you come London Fiona....super strong !!

Nice swimming NP.... I need to start doing that again !!!

Hope the cross country went well Jason !!

hope your well HM4/OH/Jay  !!


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