Lots of great training going on yesterday Fiona your intervals where very good after my swim 54x25m front crawl I had a CBA day...
Jason nice ice running same here this morning so I ran on the road.
Virex can I ask whats your age and what is the longest run you have ever done? Your 10k time suggests 3:15 but if you havn't run further than 10 miles in the past you wont have enough endurance in your legs, but by running the 6 days a week and building the miles in this phase your building your endurance base, we all get tierd during this time its natural but it will improve over the next couple of months but dont be afraid to miss a day and take a days rest.
First of two runs done today 7 miles off footpath due to ice.
AGF - sensible decision re: cutting back. Hope a few early nights will do you good. Dubai sounds like a mini-taper for Silverstone...
Stuart nice 12.6m. I agree with OH and the others - do a slow, sensible, even-paced Lochaber and you'll be a good place for Nessie.
NN hope you enjoyed the rest
MG nice easy 3m
Jason - not good!! Hope you can get out this evening
Fiona great treddie intervals
HM stay warm
Stewart well done on the 5 miles
Mace - thanks. Are you still doing Hadd subLT's or are you now fully P&D?
NP nice start to the day
Work getting in the way here so just a 5 miler off-road this morning at sub70%max. Snow but no ice
Virex I agree with AGF, Mace and NP. That's a quick 10k time but I see from your profile you've been running less than 20 miles a week, so endurance is going to be an issue.
Take a day or two off. You might want to ditch the intervals for a while (and replace them with some slow easy miles). Maybe dial all the paces back by 20 to 30 secs per mile, and re-assess after you've done one of the Half races in the plan...2.29x your half is the male first-timer average...
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Virex I agree with AGF, Mace and NP. That's a quick 10k time but I see from your profile you've been running less than 20 miles a week, so endurance is going to be an issue. Take a day or two off. You might want to ditch the intervals for a while (and replace them with some slow easy miles). Maybe dial all the paces back by 20 to 30 secs per mile, and re-assess after you've done one of the Half races in the plan...2.29x your half is the male first-timer average...
Doh, why didn't i think of looking at his profile ... i said you was a wise man Tek
Fully P&D now mate. Will definitely be going back to HADD though. I was thinking during this morning's run in the pissing rain and freezing cold wind, how i'm looking forward to doing some nice 70% Sunday morning HADD runs along the seafront in the summer
Well done. I bet the dog was pleased with that.
I intend to! You guys know what I'm like with cold weather.
Hi & welcome to the thread.
Well done everyone that managed to get out on the roads..as for Fiona..that is a mental session on the treadmill..brilliant
Mace..ahhh those were the days eh?? I shall be back to a bit of hadding myself after VLM
No snow here, just a bit icy this morning that soon thawed though and had a bit of light rain while running...bloody cold though..
9 Miles with middle 4 @ LT 7.40..7.35..7..34..7,37
11 miles including the icy muddy trail up our little local hill. Blue skies and bright sun. No snow. Jacket left at home
Well done to all those struugling to get out with the weather
4.6 miles for me tonight. Bloody freezing out there. Rest day tomorrow.
Decided I'm going to sign up for Lochaber after I get paid at the end of the week.
Virex a couple of years ago I trained with a guy who was in his early 20's who had a far faster 10k pb than me (I was about 48 years old at the time and was doing 3:11 in the marathon) every week he did the long run but never backed it up during the week with a few very easy runs and a tempo/speed session the reason was he said his legs where tierd. Marathon running and training is very diffrent from 5 and 10k training/racing 90% of it is mental, this will come over time and also as you get older. Where you are busted after a 10k because you push through whilst the lactate builds up and your lungs hurt, where as with a marathon its a grind and a journey and in two half, the first half is up to 20 miles and the second half from 20 miles up to the finish line. You have to be able to run the last 6.2 miles on tierd legs otherwise you will just want to stop and walk. I think most people on here would agree that at some stage during there first or second marathon that they have wanted to walk or in fact have walked. So how did they over come this the next time? Well its my guess that they did more miles in training and more longer runs which at some time ment having to run on tierd legs. If you have to take a day off take a day off if you have to run a faster training run slower run it slower
Teknik nice off road run.
NN Well done on your LT 9 mile run great pace.
OH Well done on your 11 on the muddy trail.
SM6 Well done on your 4.6 miles, yep it's cold out.
Jason see some idiot ran over 3000 miles in 58 mins to take top spot gggrrrrr
Second 7 mile run done as a progressive run.
Well done on run number 2 NP I should have done the same instead of sat here watching Eastenders
Well its finished now so go now
Um Um .. I did do some weights after my run NP so that nearly counts as a double ...doesn't it ?
Hi NP, Thanks for your words of wisdom, I understand what you are saying and it has some great insight!
I do know what you mean about longer races being more mental, I don't want to sound naive but I think my mental strength is pretty good!
I'm completely fine with running while i feel tired, I would have gone and done the interval training session tonight even with my achey bones but I don't want to be foolish and do this when it won't benefit me.
After listening to the advice here I think taking a few extra rest days this week will actually help me in my training. I'm not just skipping it because i feel tired/lazy because that is not a reason to not run in my eyes, but only if doing so is improving my ability.
NP- glad you got out! That 3000miler was shifting!!!
Virex- welcome- I agree with everything NP says- well, on this occasion at least
mace- P&D is The Way
Fiona- Nice treadmill session
NN- Nice snow free running
OH- well done on the tropical run
Stuart- well done
After this morning's aborted effort, icy roads and darkness tonight saw me juggling my sessions and turning to the joys of running 15m on the track... A bit slippery, but at least it was free of frozen puddles and floodlit. Pleased with the run cos it felt really comfortable- just as well as I had to turn the brain off and get into a rhythm to keep my sanity while going round and round and round....15.01m in 1.42.41 (6.50 av) splits: 7:07 6:41 6:58 6:51 7:05 7:00 6:57 7:04 6:57 6:59 6:38 6:39 6:37 6:36 6:29 3 Woohoo!
Indeed... very impressive Jason
Well done for doing those miles on a treadmill AGF, thankfully I havent had to resort to that yet!!
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