2013 Marathon Thread

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04/02/2013 at 16:36

StewartC  you have been increasing the miles without any problems and are on par with most of the people I run with from my club occasionally on a Saturday who are targeting VLM, I know their longest so far is 18 miles and their weekly mileage is no where near 50 miles, I am the only one doing P&D and havent told them just how any miles I am running in case it goes tits up and I look a right idiot....so I have played it down..lol...so although I am no expert I would say go for it..

AGF the weeks are ticking away arent they , into single figures now and 2/3 of them will be a taper, is Brighton flat ?

OH good grief find a swimming pool...I will let you into a secret, I haven't swam in the sea in this country since I was about 12..true !! I hate it cold, green yuk...and I live in Devon... near the so called English Rivera ...when I am abroad you cant keep me out the sea.. 

Fiona hope the niggles clear up.

HM4 hope you manage to get out this week

4 miles recovery and few weights today.


Edited: 04/02/2013 at 16:37
04/02/2013 at 16:40

Cross post with AGF ...typical he says do P&D next time Stewart, thats the trouble if you ask for advice..you get so many different answers...


04/02/2013 at 16:51

Very true Night Nurse....the thing is no answer is wrong. I ams sure with the mileage behind him Stewart will do well either way.  My commenst were based on TEkniks large improvements based on hadd training last year. Thats what stewarts been doing and I think he might as well continue with that Journey. That said there are multiple folk on here who also do very well with P&D.  Takes your choice

Have faith with your plan and your mileage NN. Your doing roughly double what you did last year based on Fetch and that coupled with the fact that you have had good mileage for the last few years = a very good race coming up for you

Brighton is mainly flat. There are a couple of hills near the start and at 8 miles, but to be honest they are not much to worry about - if anything they kurb the over excitement at the beginning of the race.  

Edited: 04/02/2013 at 16:53
04/02/2013 at 18:13

Stewart - Do it!! Your weekly mileage is higher than mine at the moment, and there is still plenty of time to get 3-4x20s in, as well as a few longer midweek runs. Use it as a learning experience for Loch Ness, that's pretty much what I'm doing.

OH - Looks a wee bit wild up your way. I'd keep out of the water 

NP - Nice long run

HM - Well done, seems like a good idea to build slowly back into it.

Fiona - Take it easy with the knee

AGF - Nice run today

NN - Good run/weights double today


19.97 @9.35 ave today. That wasn't even remotely fun, was ready to jack it at about 6 miles. Miles 3-12 were into driving rain/snow/hail. Ah well, it's done and this week is a recovery week 

04/02/2013 at 18:23
Very good fortitude Stuart. Good stuff. !!
04/02/2013 at 18:26

Well done SM6 nice pace average ,sounds appalling conditions...that's hard core !!! but how could you leave it at 19.97 ? no ocd I take it. ?

AGF thanks yes I know but you never know what can happen between now and then...I had a right disaster 2 years ago...mind you it was my own fault., I missed half of  dec and Jan's training due to illness then crammed 100s of miles into feb and march and wore myself out...lesson learned the hard way.

Edited: 04/02/2013 at 18:28
04/02/2013 at 18:44

NN another great long run - well done on the 21m

Stuart nice 9 miler yesterday. Sorry the 20 miler was grim - miles in the bank, though.

Stewart brutal 17 miler - great stuff fella.  On the Lochaber front I say (a) do it (b) use the P&D 12 week up to 55m schedule - you'll be ahead on the LSR mileage and (c) to cut the Gordian knot between NN and AGF, I use P&D to shape the week and its' mileage, but stick to Hadd HRs - in particular I would replace the tempo with a subLT. 

OH well done for getting out there. Scary weather map! LOL at the swim fail...

NP great 22 miler - your mate Paul was the guy who steered me through the HR training, on Fetch

HM well done

Fiona nice 5 miler - hope the roller's working

AGF nice easy 11 miles


6m recovery tonight, all fine.



Edited: 04/02/2013 at 18:46
04/02/2013 at 18:51
Just a quick question am doing VLM this year
And my training going to plan most I have done
Is 14 and half miles in 2.30 done 5x 10ks and 3 half marathons
I am booked on a 20 miler in 5 week am I right. In assuming
It would be to early to lower my miles with 6 weeks to
Go from there to London any advice would be great

04/02/2013 at 18:56

Well done on your 11 this morning AGF. I wish I could get up early enough for a double digit run!

Stewart you are going really well and ahead of most folks training for a Spring marathon. In fact the miles you are putting in I thought you were!

A well deserved recovery day NN and Teknik.

Stuart very well done for toughing it out. Blizzard conditions up here.

Did not run this morning then got as far as uncovering the treadmill tonight and decided to take the whole day off. This will be a recovery week (I am listening AGF ). Knee still just at the niggly stage but after ruining last year's VLM with continuing to run on an injury I'm just not prepared to chance it. May also take tomorrow morning off to be sure of a nice blizzardy hill run tomorrow night!  Can't keep me away from that!!


04/02/2013 at 18:59

bradders - I think most plans have only a 3 week taper...

Jason - are you ok? Starting to worry...

mace - are you still lurgied?

YC - wishing you a speedier recovery mate

04/02/2013 at 19:05


That sounds awful weather.


Well done on everyone's training & thanks for your comments.  Hope everyone's not too affect by the snow which is on the way.

04/02/2013 at 19:06

Hi  all lots of great weekend running again!

I did my run on Thursday, but although all was ok during, the pain afterwards was quite severe so haven't ran since but did do a 10mile walk on Saturday.

Stewart -  I feel, you will easily manage Lochaber  with the miles you are presently doing and 10 more weeks training. I am doing Paris the week before Lochaber and have only ran 8 miles in the last 6 weeks!! I am optimistic that things will improve sometime soon!

04/02/2013 at 19:16
AGF well done on the run today and good advice to SC but as far as speed work is concerned work hard on your LT runs which are faster than MP and add a few miles at MP to every other long run.
OH looks like your big pool is closed for a few days
NN well done on the recovery run and weights today.
SM6 that's a great run in poor conditions well done.
Teknik well done on the 6 miles tonight, Paul is a nice guy and is into the HR running he always tells me I run to fast but we where able to talk the whole way resting HR is 34/36 at the moment
Fiona your not the only one went swimming this morning and did 54x25 m and then looked at my training and noticed its over 3 weeks since my last non running day so no run today HIlls make you strong enjoy your hill run tomorrow.
Bradders two to three weeks is the norm for a taper even doing a 20 three weeks out.
04/02/2013 at 19:42

£3.40 for a nose full of chlorine this evening while confined to a narrow lane  - yes I braved it to the pool
Wind didn't come to forecast epic levels today so hopefully should be OK for a run tomorrow afternoon. Lots of sleety snow around just now.

SM6 take it you didn't look at your Garmin until you got in
or was the weather so foul that a further 0.03 mile was unthinkable

AGF 11 miles before 10

Tek good going to get out

04/02/2013 at 19:45

Jason hasnt even logged any training on Fetch..but guess you have noticed that 

NP do you tag MP miles on to occasional long runs instead of following the P&D sceduled MP  runs ? 

04/02/2013 at 19:49

Bradders, agree with the others on a shorter taper.

Take care kaz but well done on getting more walking done.

NP more great swimming and impressive HR,  mine is 10 bpm higher! Looking forward to the hills


04/02/2013 at 19:50

...hope jason's ok

Let's hope you get our run tomorrow OH.


04/02/2013 at 20:01
Thanks for advice :0)
04/02/2013 at 20:37

Tek - Nice run

OH/NP - Good swimming

Fiona - Take a rest day!! 

Kaz - Hope you are ok

OH/NN - I actually thought my route would come out at 20.1, but even when I seen 19.97 I was too wet and cold to consider doing the extra 50 metres

Bad news once I came in that my local parkrun is cancelled for 8 weeks, just as I'm about to hit 50 runs too 

04/02/2013 at 21:00

Hello everyone

i'm new to this thread and this is my first marathon, i'm upto 15 miles at the moment but am struggling at around 14 miles in 2hr 40min, i can't seem to get beyond this distance, any advice from any one


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