2013 Marathon Thread

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19/03/2013 at 15:39


Week 4 day 1 (12 with 60 sec rest, 14 with 60 sec rest, 11 with 60 sec rest, 10 with 2 min rest & finally 18).


Well done guys.

4 miles done this morning (longest run in about 5 months) with ave pace of 10.58 min miles.  I'm really surprised I'm running that quickly so soon.  Could this be an effect of the press ups strengthening my core?


19/03/2013 at 17:38

Well done HM4.


Very pleasant walk over Costa Head in blue skies - a part of Orkney I've not been over before (although I've been "under" a few times

19/03/2013 at 20:06

Sounding strong HM4.

Still not 100% first thing so just in from a 5 mile treadmill run, 3 at 6:55mm pace. Calves a bit tight but feeling better.  Dashing off to deliver Beanie (my cat) to her holiday home! Will catch up tomorrow.


19/03/2013 at 20:19
Fiona. Have a lovely holiday and hope you get well soon. Good running today btw
19/03/2013 at 20:25

Fiona - Nice run

HM - Good running

Tek - Nice run today. Although your posts aren't filling me with confidence ahead of Lochaber!

Mace - Nice easy run this morning

MG - Sounds like a good workout in the gym

Jason - Good running, good luck with the 10k on Sunday

Stewart - I think you can look at 4 hours as realistic. You've put in the miles, and it sounds like you could have went faster on Sunday had you not been waiting for your running partner.


19/03/2013 at 20:47
Mace well done on the 6 and 4
Tek nice 6
NP good run earlier
Fiona enjoy your break and training, hope Beanie has a good holiday too

5 m tempo run and 10 k on the bike in the gym tonight, thinking about what sort of pace I should be aiming to run Rotterdam at. Most recent half was Birmingham
last October in 1.40 but feel much fitter now, I think 8.30 - 8.45 should be possible for my first M ?? It is a bit into the unknown, any thoughts?
19/03/2013 at 21:46

MACE thanks for the reply I felt much better than I was expecting to be honest it rounded off a 70 mile week I was really tired from 3 busy nights
then had the littlest grandson for 2 days/ nights and by the time I eventually got out for run late Sunday I was knackered.So yes I aM now in that dilemma do I dare start a bIt faster than what I thought was marathon pace, I don't think I have the confidence and will start off at 8.20s and see how I feel at half way.

TEK yes thanks for nothing lol..no seriously I guess its all about confidence in the training,I am finding if I run at the suggested paces set out in p&d my hr is too low, so if I run the long runs at HR times are the paces set out for 3.30 but I dont have the confidence to run 8 min miling from the start...Oh bum I am confused !! Having said.that I am glad to say I have never felt quite as bad as you have during a marathon

Fiona have a lovely time are you going with anyone of just going on your own ? I hope beanie enjoys her hols too

MG1  your half time is the same as mine and I run 3.40 marathon which is under 8.30s hoping for a few mins off that this year so yes you should aim at least 8.20s-8.30 which plan do you intend following ?


Edited: 19/03/2013 at 21:48
19/03/2013 at 22:06
NN well was maybe being a bit cautious on the pacing but you have given me a bit confidence to go for 8.20 - 8.30 for the first 12 - 15 miles and take it from there .
Will go out this Saturday for a 10 - 14 at that sort of pace and see how it feels, after this weekends medium run , one more long run left
19/03/2013 at 22:28
Hm4 well done on the press ups and running.
OH the walk will do your legs the world of good.
Fiona nice tempo hope beanie has a great holiday.
MG1 great tempo run 1:40+1:40= 3:20 plus 10 is a 3:30 marathon. If your feeling 1:35 for a half you do the maths

Second run of the day for me 6 miles with 4 at tempo.
19/03/2013 at 22:33
NN I've still at work 48 straight here and that last post took me an hour that's why I missed you'r post. I think you should go 8:15/8:10's you have that in you no problem.
19/03/2013 at 22:42

48 hours on shift ? is that what you mean ? thats harsh !!! well done on the 2 runs..and thanks for the reply 

MG1 your long runs are strong I have seen the splits go for it !!

19/03/2013 at 22:42
Thanks for the advice NP, Dont think I am feeling that brave or stupid for a 1.35 half, will stick to what you and NN suggest as it seems sensible
19/03/2013 at 22:54
MG1 I didnt realise your marathon was close, nearly time for taper madness you will soon know what I mean  you will feel fat bloated lazy and unfit and worry like mad that you havent done enough..something to look forward to lol 
20/03/2013 at 08:36
Taper madness
NN yep also due to me not living in the area I work I have to live on one of the Stations which means I end up sitting at my desk doing more work than I should in the standby hours. But I can use the gym
10 miles MLR on the treadmill done and dusted.
20/03/2013 at 10:40

HM fantastic sets - keep it up. Nice 4m - and yes, I think the stronger core helps...

OH glad you're up and about

Fiona nice treddie tempo. Enjoy the holiday!

Stuart sorry - I'm always the prophet of doom on here

MG good tempo and bike work

NN I guess you have to ask yourself "would I be happy with a 3h36?"  If no, go for the 3:30.  If yes, then that's probably where you'll end up.  I'm wavering back to 3h36 at the moment...we'll see after my Half on Sunday.

NP nice double again yesterday, and good treddie 10m this morning


1m warm up then 9m run with a 83%max ceiling as a MP test.  Came in at a disappointing 8:05mm, but no real drift in the last few miles.  Progress of sorts


20/03/2013 at 12:07
Teknik I think sometimes we ALL just have to zip up the man suit and run balls out.
20/03/2013 at 12:32
NP. Yes. Lol . Just not in this weather
20/03/2013 at 14:06
In any case, I'm not going to zip up my man-suit when my balls are out.
20/03/2013 at 14:29

Tek I would be VERY happy with a 3.36 even a 3.38 even a 3.39.59 anything but over 3.40

Well done on the MP effort yourself

NP 10 miles on a dreadmill...good effort indeed

Pathetic slow heavy legged 12.5 miler in 2 hours for me this morning plus pilates class

Right to fit in with everyone else here I got just this foam roller, now ,someone tell me what to do with it, decent suggestions only please !!

Edited: 20/03/2013 at 14:31
20/03/2013 at 15:15

Tek - you are in 3:30 Shape and IMHO should go for it. Definately.  The taper has a brilliant effect - especially with the miles you have done.

I have a conumdrum !! Berlin is my A race for the year. brighton is meant to be a stepping stone.

However - I feel busted again/still. In short I have been hobbling on/off since the HM a couple of weeks ago. After the weekend run I have strains in the hips/quads/hams again. A Sports massage tonight - will see how it goes.

However I am seriously considering not running brighton. My body feels like it does after a marathon PB attempt - shattered. Not good. I do not want to run a mediocre run at brighton and then be busted further and impact Berlin.

The 1:29:58 half makes me feel that in right condition I can run sub 3:15 and get GFA - so I will be dissapointed with say a 3:25 in brighton. That would be a great PB - but I know I will be dissapointed - yet my body is not ready for a 3:15 attempt due to these niggles/strains etc.

Sorry for rambling / moaning..  frustrated thats all with these injuries/niggles

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