Advice on the Victory 5

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07/12/2008 at 17:23
Functional advice is always welcome! The fact its slightly abrasive just fits in with Yifter's personality!

I made the mistake of going out with one of my club's runners who was aiming for 32. I thought it would be good to trail him till the halfway mark then ease off a little and hit it again at the end. Turns out he actually did 30'21"...

4 interval sessions and 2 threshold sessions a week... got it.
07/12/2008 at 17:30

A f*cking

If you can do that lot in a week, you'll be beating Bekele! like a dagger in the heart!

07/12/2008 at 17:32

unlucky Paul though still a good time. Think though to carve over 2minutes off that within 2months to get sub 30 like some guy earlier on this thread said is a bit optimistic. Long term maybe though.

However, the 40-50miles a week is spot on, i've done that for a good few months now. Did a 5k race dressed as santa today..even in that suit and running at what i felt was casual knocked out a 17:32 5k time. And my best time ever was 17;45 before that but generally 18mins but which felt flat thats encourgaing. Only now do i feel in sub 30mins 5miler pace though.

Whens yourr next target?

07/12/2008 at 17:34
Haha! I meant a fortnight, not a week. My typing can't keep up with my mind.

My next race is the Eastleigh 10k in February/March(?!). So i'd like to get a PB (41'40" or under) for that.
07/12/2008 at 17:40

Start another thread then Paul. Lets see if youve learnt anything freom this one.

To answer Stevie, the only reason I think he could knock off enough time to go under 30mins in 2 months is, simply because he hasn't STARTED to train properly yet, and I think with the proper training, Paul will see sharp improvements.

07/12/2008 at 17:42
It's true, I do piss around a bit. Short attention span and all that.
07/12/2008 at 17:53
At last Im in total agreement with you
Edited: 07/12/2008 at 17:53
07/12/2008 at 21:35

well done all today, perfect conditions.... I was planning a PB attempt (31:33) held from 3 years ago at Hanney 5, have been doing 35-45m base for the last 10 weeks or so, and that has included 2 PBs at 1/2 mara, a 10m PB and 2 5 k pbs, the 5ks have been used as speed work most weeks.

Was expecting to hit 30:30 31:00 today.... went off very fast and tried to hold it, got in with a group at 2m and stuk with them, ended up doing 5:50, 5:56, 6:08, 5:54 and 5:51 for a 29:42 finish, and very happy.

The moral to the PBs above is the fact that I have been running heavy for 9 and 1/2 years, decided it was time to ditch the rubber ring and changed my diet, 12 weeks later and 2st lighter and so solid base trg and I have PBs at 4 istance and times I never thought possible...

Impossible is Nothing as per the advert....... hope this helps

Well done to all racers again today.

08/12/2008 at 10:26

well you can all now have a look to what your PB face is...

 Race photographs on

08/12/2008 at 13:13

Good luck with the 2 intervals and 1 tempo per week thing -rather you than me...

08/12/2008 at 20:38

what is wrong with me....
08/12/2008 at 20:39
I look like an old man gurning. I swear i'm not even 22 yet!
08/12/2008 at 20:52

I didn't know you ran for Farnham, Yifter? I'd have said hi as I overtook you...
08/12/2008 at 21:03

...good crack at the V5, weather must have been good too. I went to watch the ill-fated Luton marathon.

Good posts from Yifter, bit of old fashioned advice - but its true, I popped out a 32.38 10k from nowhere (pb of 45 secs) after 2 or 3 months of consistent training with some hellish tuesday training sessions from an ex-olympic steeple chaser (some of which were probably too hard...) so its what you want to get out of it of luck with the targets...

as for finishing pictures...I did a 10k in Leighton Buzzard in the summer and I finished looking like Ducan Norveille (remeber him? chase me!! chase me!!.) Eyes closed, limp hand out in front. Nightmare

08/12/2008 at 21:20
A lot of people come to this forum for different reasons. Despite the huge numbers of people who run... amongst mainstream folks, it's still an outsiders hobby. After my first ever race, I boasted to my friends of finishing a 5 mile race in 37.5 minutes... and most of them just responded with "why on earth would you want to run 5 miles?".

So I understand why many would come to a forum like this to find support from people who understand the sport. Because it would be easy to be surrounded by friends and family who hadn't a clue. It's nice to be congratulated on finishing a race in 11min miles, from those who went through it years before.

On the other hand, some people come here for advice. And that's the main reason i'm here. I'm not going to get offended if Yifter comes on here and calls me a bloody idiot and says i'm training wrong if its THE TRUTH. I want genuine, serious advice... not to be told to carry on as I am.

If the way im training is only good for maintaining my current level then i'll bin it and try harder.

And you're right Simon, it is old-fashioned advice. But its the kind of thing my Grandpa always says... "you aren't working hard enough!". And he was running 1'54" for 800m when he was my age... so he'd know.

I need to get out of the comfort zone. So feel free to insult me everyone and help me do it.
08/12/2008 at 23:32

Paul, you're a w*nker! (Joke! Sorry, that was too easy )

Simon, did those Tuesday night sessions happen to be with HHH at Tooting Bec track? If so, who's the Olympic steeple chaser? Remember you telling me about HHH when I was about to join. Well, I've been to 5/6 Tuesday sessions now and am loving it - definitely feeling the benefits already. Nice one for the encouragement.

And to go off on another tangent...I've just booked five tickets for me and my mates to the World Athletics Championships in Berlin! Managed to get finishing straight tickets on the night of:

Women's 400m final (possibly Christine O and Nicola Sanders)

Men's triple jump final (possibly Philips Idowu)

Men's 400m hurdles final

Men's 3000m steeple chase final

I'll also see some chancer by the name of U Bolt in the 200m (only the quarter final, mind).

There are still tickets for the men's 200m and 100m finals, but they're not great seats so thought I'd go for another night. Can't wait!!! 

08/12/2008 at 23:47

Not sure I like the grandpa tag reference Paul, but he could run couldnt he!....Maybe big brother is more  apt.

Oh're welcome to say Hi as you overtake me......but your gonna have to speed up a bit first lad!

M...eldy    pirate
09/12/2008 at 00:06
I think Paul was right first time meself ...
09/12/2008 at 00:22

Right first time about what?

Another night shift for you M.eldy?

M...eldy    pirate
09/12/2008 at 00:25
Yifty being a grandad

Yep .. first night of two for me,  Hastings marathon on Sunday!
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