Base Training Revisited - Page 10 - Training

Plodding Hippo

06/12/2004 at 22:13

I think you ARE him URR
i wouldnt put it past you;)

Urban Road Runner

06/12/2004 at 22:19

PH - I have been to Sacramento, was in San Francisco this year already, ran the Chicago marathon, but I can say I am not HIM :D I can tell you making the time for Boston means a lot to runners in the US.

Tom.

06/12/2004 at 22:21

BR "I shall continue to follow the thread with interest and post if I feel I have anything new to add to the discussion".

What precisely do the two links you have posted add to the discussion?

Plodding Hippo

06/12/2004 at 22:21

I bet it does

ill never do Boston

but maybe one day berlin

Captain Grumpy

06/12/2004 at 22:25

Sorry - just who do we think "him" is ???

Training under what misinterpretation !!???????????

Captain Grumpy

06/12/2004 at 22:29

Br - I can't get the links to work - can you help as I have tried copy and paste to my browser without success.

Urban Road Runner

06/12/2004 at 22:33

CIM, my redemption for Chicago (Long of course)

Urban Road Runner

06/12/2004 at 22:34

As promised, my experience with Hadd training

Plodding Hippo

06/12/2004 at 22:35

NOONE WILL TELL ME!

you all know who hadd is , dont you
grrrrrrrrrr
im not paranoid or owt;)

Scoff The Sloth

06/12/2004 at 22:39

Hippo - yes Hadd is actually a vast global conspiracy to make you feel more paranoid ;)

Plodding Hippo

06/12/2004 at 22:43

I KNEW it

oh yes

it all becomes clear now

(er, it worked for me, in my humble way, anyone got his e mail addy so i can tell him shit runners benefit too)

riplex

06/12/2004 at 22:49

Two quotes from Noakes:

"In chapter 2, I discuss recent studies that cutting out much of this slow training, but retaining the speed training, does not impair performance, at least over shorter distances of 5 to 10km".

"Since the 1950s, there have been at least 92 studies of this topic [altitude training]. Of these studies, 76 are scientifically unintelligible because they were conducted without an adequate control group..."

Discuss :-)

Urban Road Runner

06/12/2004 at 22:49

PH - No secret, has been posted, check here. (could be old though)

Plodding Hippo

06/12/2004 at 22:54

ta
still confused, not up to it al like you are

Plodding Hippo

07/12/2004 at 06:43

I am so sad i even tried to e mail him

Bounced back though

Pammie*

07/12/2004 at 06:49

Probably many people have tried that hippo, and he may have changed it since then because of that

Barnsley Runner

07/12/2004 at 06:54

Sorry for posting those links. I thought it might add to the discussion to see how 2 runners applied Hadd's methods with success in their marathons.

Plodding Hippo

07/12/2004 at 06:56

I wasnt rude or owt
Sniff

riplex

07/12/2004 at 08:15

BR wrote: "Because if you don't train yourself to control cardiac drift at 75% and 80% you won't control it at 87% and so drift into an anaerobic state too early on in a marathon."

That assumes that effort is proportional to heart rate even if the heart rate elevation is due to cardiac drift. Is that the case?

This suggests not.

"Boulay et al (1997) examined the effect on work rate if the heart rate was kept constant. The results showed that in order to maintain a stable HR (176-180bpm), the work rate had to be decreased significantly (17%). The %VO2max decreased from 80% to 73%"

Tom.

07/12/2004 at 08:55

Foo Bar, this looks interesting, unfortunately I can't make the link work.