Focused Training - RW [Forum]

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25/11/2004 at 18:58
barnsleyrunner, without a high top speed? I would suggest 18kph though, 16 is useless! Most of you guys can walk that. Even I finish on 17ish!

For a decent TM you need to spend at least £1000. Also useful is a good belt size, good motor and long warranty. We have the Trimline 335HR, it folds away really neatly - better than all the others. It is the best value for money one that goes up to 18kph, about £1200-1300. There is a Tunturi which does 20kph, but that's ugly, has a naff console and is pricey at £2000. The running belt is very good on the Trimline, one of the longest, firm and no bounce! I spent quite a bit of time researching treadmills and definitely made the right decision going for the Trimline. Don't buy a cheap one, you'll regret it.

Lifefitness have a reputation for going wrong, Tunturi are the same company as Trimline but uglier and the spec isn't as good.

Also Trimline are American where they are generally a tad heavier ;o) You'll be ok up to 21 stone.

Make sure you have the space first though - I mean headroom on full incline! We couldn't have ours in the house. The ceilings would be too low for hubby (he's 6'1)

Is there a John Lewis near you? They have a few treadmills in their Bluewater branch. Go and scare the life out of the sales staff hee hee. Then buy online.
25/11/2004 at 19:07
BT-they have their place when commitments mean one can't get out!

BR-as I only wanted mine for occasional use, preferring like most to run outside. I went for the Horizon Quantum ll, which cost me £800. It only goes upto 10mph though, so for fast guys like yourself it may not be ideal. For me it's great and has enough programmes to keep me happy. I only use it when running big mileage (70 miles)as it allows me to keep some of the strain off my lower legs, which are prone to injury!

I agree with Ceal that they can be boring, but I just blast out some music and am well away!:o)
25/11/2004 at 19:08
Gulp - that much??

If I went and spent that on a treadmill then I wouldn't have the issue of wife and kids any more!
25/11/2004 at 19:11
Ceal-a jucuzzi after a hard or long run sounds bliss!

I had one the night before Cardiff marathon and if it weren't for the fact I was paranoid of becoming dehydrated (it was so warm) I would've stayed there for hours!:o)

If I have time, which doesn't seem to be often these days, I like to go for a swim after a long run. I find that really helps with muscle stiffness. Again I'm sure it's to do with the water being cold and then the swim itself acts like a massage.
25/11/2004 at 19:15
BR-e-bay normally have some on offer! I was very tempted to get one off there myself and it was a 'proper' gym one. There are some forumites who've got one off e-bay. Might be worth posting a thread on gear and asking.
25/11/2004 at 19:25
hilly, it is bliss, the jacuzzi that is. You are right to worry about getting dehydrated. I am the the only person who takes a water bottle with me. Peeps seem to go in and out of the steam room and sauna and not drink anything. I always finish my water and fill it up asap. The jacuzzi has one booth that has a large wide jet of water which is very powerful and one can massage the whole of ones back and legs with it. It's great for aiding recovery. But I must point out as it is only 2 mins walk from our house it is just like going to another room in one's house. I don't have to make a lot of effort to take advantage of the gym.
25/11/2004 at 19:56
BR,

Mary here not Simon. In short, anything under about 1000 GBP, and chances are you're throwing you're money away. Important things are make and service contract, top speed (don't try to kid yourself it's not), a wide and long track, ease of adjusting functions. If you can afford one designed for gym use I reckon it's worthwhile. Good machines are expensive - but, who knows, it might turn Mrs BR into an enthusiast!!!!!!!
25/11/2004 at 20:17
hilly, commitments,

now don't scare me!!!!

yes I agree, I can see them being useful & I have wondered about doing speedwork on them for really windy days.
Trouble being I injured my back getting carried away the first time I used one :-)
Well I wanted to see how fast it could go!

BR, you might be able to power the heating & lighting off of it!
Now that would be a great idea :-)


Glad some of you are going to warm up properly pre-race, look forward to some PB's coming your ways :-)
25/11/2004 at 20:30
Wasn't there a treadmill test in either RW or R+F a month or two ago ?

There is a place in Nottm, Arthur Johnson and Sons, that auctions ex gym equipment every month or so and they always have loads - may be a bit big for a house - though we're having an extension built next year so we might put a decent one in there, along with the turbo which currently lives in the living room.

To be honest I reckon a treadmill with music blasting out might be quite addictive. I know I've helped our eldest with her homework whilst turbo training before - you can't beat quality time with the family.
25/11/2004 at 21:03
I've been on Treadmill's treadmill set-up - all his TV and hi-fi remotes positioned on the machine and mirrors so he can watch tv!

Mary, Mrs BR does do a few miles a couple of times per week but does not seem to enjoy running...
25/11/2004 at 21:20
Agree, I use the treadmill from time to time. Those in the gym cost around £3000, luxury version and you can practice running 4:45 min/mile pace :) I used a few others for home usage, but they are not suitable, very shakey, too slow, too noisy, etc. Either the real thing or nothing. There is nothing wose then bad equipment.
25/11/2004 at 21:35
BR - you'll also need a sturdy floor, preferably on the ground floor
25/11/2004 at 21:42
There you go BR; 3000 quid 15mph treadmill, house extension, mirror, plasma TV and you're all sorted. Divorce into the bargain! :)
25/11/2004 at 22:33
BR and treadmills? As far as I know Hadd's approach to distance running does not say anything about running on treadmills :)
25/11/2004 at 23:50
yawn
26/11/2004 at 08:33
Ceal-that's a bit envious!:o)

I agree that bad equipment is not good URR, but not all the cheaper treadmills are bad! I've used gyms for years and their treadmills and to tell the truth apart from the speed on some of them being better, they very little more than some cheaper ones! Mine is quite sturdy and will hold a person of 21 stone and 10mph is fine for me at the moment! Mind if I could've afforded £3000+ and had the space then I'm sure I would have opted for a gym quality one though:o)
26/11/2004 at 10:24
Mary, re treadmills I agree with you. I definitely would not recommend buying a recon one or 2nd hand one off ebay. One of the most important things to consider is the warranty and you could be throwing your money away by scrimping. It's a long term investment.

We bought ours brand new in May and within a couple of months developed some problems. We had engineers come round on a couple of occasions (Trimline's service is second to none) and when the problem wasn't properly resolved we had a brand new replacement in September. That's been absolutely perfect. I guess our old machine will end up as a recon for someone. You could be buying a can of worms.

BR how tall are you? If you're over 6ft you definitely would need a longer belt. You say you don't need the faster speeds - do you not anticipate getting any faster? I second what Mary is saying, don't kid yourself.

Yes, and have it on a concrete floor - ours weigh over 17 stone.
26/11/2004 at 10:32
And Tunturi do one which goes downhill, now that's totally mad! It looks like an ironing board.
26/11/2004 at 11:03
Jenny - I don't anticipate using it much. I do all my fast stuff on the track. At worst if the track were iced over I'd go to the local gym and use theirs. It's really just for steady aerobic miles when I'm tied to the house.

I'm 5 10 btw.
26/11/2004 at 11:58
You might be able to get away with a slightly shorter running belt. Ours is longer than the gym ones, not that I really need it, (hubby does) but it's useful for me when I get knackered and start wandering a bit.

Probably your best bet could be the Quantum Horizon, I think they featured that in RW a couple of months ago. Definitely have a good test of it and definitely buy new! Are you sure 16kph is enough for you? Suppose you could always put it on a tough incline :o)
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