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12/01/2005 at 22:02
Bryan, just back from a committe meeting and we were having a beer after when one guy (involved with the NoEAA) asked if someone still kept a track of club records, in terms of fastest times.

I said everything up to HM probably belonged to John Mayock after his 64 min GNR. He said he was waiting for that to go into the records so he could challenge it due to it being a point to point downill course.

Remember when Paula ran it and did the fastest time by a woman she was not awarded the world record due to the course.

I think there's a ruling somewhere on how much a course can drop. I remember hearing FLM drops 30 metres over 26 miles, which is ok, but the Rothwell 10k drops 30 metres over 10k, which is not.

And I ran a sub 35 10k at Rothwell a year and a half before breaking sub 35 on any other course and refused to count it as my pb. It would have been easy after so many near misses (35:14, 35:08, 35:01) to think `sod it, I have run sub 35 in a 10k' but I would only have been cheating myself.
12/01/2005 at 23:31
Ah, fair enough. There should be some sort of indication of this on events, although I guess it's too much hassle for the smaller ones. It's also the case, I think, that the faster you are the more it matters.

My 10 miles PB is on a course that is so hilly you wouldn't believe, a real step-ladder job.
13/01/2005 at 10:33
BR, Tim says his PB was at Ashford and the start there is 30m higher up than the finish - hee hee hee I know I'm a blabbermouth!

Hilly, I can't find any info on the Poole 10k. When in June is it, because I'm not too keen to run another race too soon after Broad Oak.

I'll do Whitstable because I know it. Grass doesn't bother me. Anyhow it should be a pretty respectable PB. I'll do Broad Oak because Pantman says it's fast so that could mean 2 PBs that month. Perhaps Poole for the hat trick? :oD
13/01/2005 at 20:24
Hi Jenny, it's on June 5th. There doesn't seem to be any entry forms on the Poole Runners website, but here's the link to their site:

13/01/2005 at 21:17
JennyD, I'm no longer worried about the past just looking forward to going sub 35min again at the moment :-)
13/01/2005 at 21:26
Hey there(been lurking)
Poole is my hometown in the UK and you can click on the Poole 10k link on this web page:)
14/01/2005 at 10:29
Thanks Hilly and Tiny Tia. 5th June is within a week of Broad Oak...I'm not too sure.

Tim, seems like you could be nearer my speed than Haile Gebrsellaissie's ha ha ha ha doesn't that make you feel good :o) Seriously though, I am fascinated how it becomes so tight at your level. Maybe I'm being naive, but surely you can squeeze out those extra few seconds???

My leg is making (very) slow progress, only left with a tiny bit of aching when I hop. I'll leave it another week and then I might try doing a bit of waddling on the treadmill, good job I can do it in privacy 'cos I'd be too embarrassed to do that in public! It's not so bad being a splodgy couch potato :o)
14/01/2005 at 15:25
JennyD - why not follow up HBO 10K with the Harvel 5? - another Kent race with a great reputation. We did the 10K (mon) and the 5M (sat) back to back last year and it worked well - just stick to easy running betwen them.
14/01/2005 at 16:32
I could do with some practice pacing by miles, the only 5 miler I've done (Deal) I b*llsed it up. Actually, I blame a couple of you on here because I was advised to go off fast :o) Well, bound to be a pb then!

I see it's multiterrain and undulating. As bad as Mote Park? What the heck, as it's local - it'll be a laugh.

Pantman, you're Maidstone Harriers, aren't you? I shall look out for those revolting green vests then :o)
14/01/2005 at 19:30
Jenny, wait a few more years & your'll know why!
Actually I'm 10min quicker than you but Haile's only 7min quicker than me.

Pantman back to back racing is one day after the other surely, or like I've done 1/2 marathon in the morning & won a 5000m on the track in the afternoon, but I'm not telling you the times ;-)
14/01/2005 at 19:45
Were they downhill as well?:-))
14/01/2005 at 19:50
oh & at least 500m short ;-)
14/01/2005 at 20:23
But it didn't matter cos he was only "jogging round" for training... ;-)
17/01/2005 at 10:50
Ohhh I think it's let's pick on Tim time!

Actually...if you're 35 min 10k (and you're not...yet :o)) your average speed is 17.1kph, 45 min 10k (and I'm faster than that) average speed 13.4kph and Haile's 26 min 10k is 23 kph. I was talking about speed.

Game, set and match :oD
17/01/2005 at 11:08
Pantman, how are you feeling today, I gather you had a great result with your 10 mile race yesterday, 7th I think it was, but that you had been feeling grot all week and wasn't feeling too wonderful yesterday. Congrats, you pulled all the stops out when you had to.

Hope you are not feeling worse today as a result of:-))
17/01/2005 at 11:18
Ceal - thnaks for asking. No worse today health wise - but no better. Yet to try and run though...
17/01/2005 at 11:28
Thought I would post on this thread for the first time! :)

Well done once again Pantman, so your still a little under the weather?

I guess it may take a little longer for you to fully shake the bug you have, but as you say, if you can do 57mins not being 100%, then a 55min is easily within your reach! You need a flat coure mind, away from the coast, where wind cannot effect the outcome.

As for me, feel fine today, in fact like I never even raced yesterday, I did my usual 6m slow, will go slow this afternoon as is on my schedule, spoke with my coach last night and will be trying something a little different in the build up to the Southerns XC!

Are you down the Harriers on weds night?
17/01/2005 at 14:11
How many of you here are Maidstone Harriers? Is there a bit of talent in Maidstone then? I thought this place was all fat chip bellies.
17/01/2005 at 16:55
Micksta, whats this something different?

If your joining this thread it all about sharing & not having secrets!

17/01/2005 at 19:32

Yeah there is a few guys in Maidstone with Talent!!! ;p

Im second caim with the Harriers, PANTMAN has called me a Judis for defecting to my new club!

Secrets, what are they then? ;)

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