mace wrote (see)
My days of 11m/m and struggling to keep the drift down over 5 miles seem so long ago now
Good news mace! Like Brian, I don't really run in the evenings very often.
5.4 recovery miles yesterday and another 10.6 easy miles today. Today's run was an early start on the canal - the 8 miles on the towpath came out at 9:10/m, for 124 bpm avHR (70% maxHR).
mace - yep, higher in the evenings - and days of struggling with 11m/m are still with me, so its good to note that I should be able to get towards your current numbers (with some effort I'm sure). All my runs are now over 60 mins and definitely getting easier - still a way to go before pace and HR consistent over 8 miles but I'm feeling the benefit after only 7 weeks.
Brian - stick your heart monitor on whilst karting!!!
Mugp - this is taken from the HADD document - should help.
First off, what I did with Joe was ask him to do a simple (but tough) test to determine his HRmax. I asked him to go to a track and warm up, stretch and do some strides as if preparing for a race. Then (wearing his HRM) he was to run an all-out 800m and note the highest HR recorded on his monitor. He was to rest 2 mins and run an all-out 400m. The highest number he would see as he crossed the finish-line, we would take as his HRmax. Since HRM’s can sometimes be tricky and go blank or haywire at the wrong moment, he was to have someone there to be ready to immediately manually take his pulse for 6 seconds (and multiply by 10). This proved not to be necessary, since his HRM read 193
Bad luck on the HRM Brian ... also having technical problems as my footpod fell off on the way to Hyde Park on Tuesday (first time in 4 years!). I back-tracked and found it on the pavement but it no longer clicks into place on the holder on my trainer. My old garmin FR50 doesn't do sat nav, so I have no way of estimating pace/mileage anymore. Might have to resort to super glue to get me through the Abbey Dash.
jeez, a lot of broken gadgets on here at the mo mace: great improvement My HR is the higher in the evenings too. Generally, as of lunchtime onwards I find it's around 5 bpm higher. I find it also harder to run later in the day. I'd much rather get up at silly o'clock and get the run out of the way ... Having a bit of a struggle with the CNBA fairy this week . Monday designated rest day, so that was ok. Tuesday: CNBA fairy attacked and won. Speedwork yesterday. Left hammy & calf twingy since then. Feeling another argument with the fairy coming on (don't run, your leg hurts) (run, it'll make you feel better). aaargh!!
Brian - i'd say higher HR in the morning IS strange unless you're doing 10 milers in your sleep or maybe it's a " SUB-3" thing
atd - it's good not to worry too much about HR ( i've been guilty ) and just concentrate on enjoying your runs. Too much faffing about takes away the enjoyment
BD - keep with it, your patience will be rewarded
mugpunter - welcome and good luck. I've had some great advice on this thread from some very experienced people who know their onions
Dan - sorry to hear of the tech hiccup ... good luck with the Dash
chick' - generally i also find evenings harder and prefer to get it done in the morning knowing people are wasting their time sleeping while i'm plodding the streets. Less people/traffic about too
@ the CNBA fairy, think she's been having a go at me lately as well. This time of year has traditonally ( before i got more serious ) been about the time she wins me over until new year but with a marathon booked in April she can do one
Anyway, this MORNING 6.55M in 60 mins = 9.11m/m @ 125 HRav ( 69% ) .... 16 seconds per mile quicker than Weds EVENING for the same effort
LOL, mace . Well, I won in the end and kicked the fairy into oblivion. 5 done in the wind & rain which was actually quite enjoyable in a slightly perverse kind of way. Then another 7 this morning, first time in hat & gloves . VERY cold out there all of the sudden. But I like cold a lot more than heat
Chick/mace, good stuff on defeating the dreaded CNBA fairy. Fairy? I tend to classify 'her' as a monster! You both fended it off anyway so big up to you guys.
I've been to the pub instead of running this lunch. Birthday do.... 3 pints of good ale - I want to sleep now. Not sure my boss would be too chuffed with that so gonna try and fill my afternoon with a combination of visits to the loo and the coffee machine.
hadd another good run yesterday morning with a club mate,
for those into all the stats, (Brian ) here they are:
1) - 1m - 8:22 - 121bpm avge - 138bpm max
2) - 1m - 8:14 - 120bpm avge - 133bpm max
3) - 1m - 8:09 - 126bpm avge - 132bpm max
4) - 1m - 8:15 - 131bpm avge - 138bpm max
5) - 1m - 8:02 - 134bpm avge - 141bpm max
6) - 1m - 8:04 - 137bpm avge - 147bpm max
7) - 1m - 8:05 - 137bpm avge - 148bpm max
8) - 1m - 8:00 - 136bpm avge - 145bpm max
9) - 0.93m - 7:29(8:05 pace) - 138bpm avge - 144bpm max.
i`ve deleted the Calories because i dont think there accurate anyway or worth bothering about.
Brian ... sounds like a good Friday workday.
Andy - the HR is rising quite a bit through that run, despite pretty stable pacing, though from memory your HRmax is very high so I guess it's probaly less than a 10% drift. I expect that in a month or two, you'll see a much more stable HR pattern.
Haven't managed to run yet ... too tied up to escape at lunch but will try to slot in 5 -6 easy miles later.
Im sure the figures we use are always of Max HR and not Working HR. Is that correct? It confuses me as my figures are so much different.
Max of 190 @ 70% = 133
(Max of 190 - Rest of 55) @70% + 55 = 150
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