Brian. ... take it easy will you!
Keir, hope things improve soon!
5M commute run in this morning was tough, despite slow pace.Sure it will settle down once the legs get used to having to do a bit of work again. I much prefer lunchtime running!
Keir indeed. The vomiting bug is making the rounds in Germany too. Funny, how these things spread all over Europe. A few guys in the office have it and I just spoke to a colleague in our Dusseldorf branch who reported the same Stewart: how about setting the Garmin to display distance only and go by feel? I find it helps a great deal and I tend to run pretty consistent splits doing just that. You can check HR when you download it. Go on, you may surprise yourself! Brian: eeek - 70mins in the gym doing exercises is not my idea of fun mace: it's seasonal name change thingie that we do over on the sub 3:30 thread to keep with the festive spirit.90 mins in the freeeezing cold this morning. Boy, it's mornings like that when I begin to question my sanity and seriously ask myself if it's such a great idea to run a spring marathon ... on the other hand I felt brilliant after a hot shower and a mug of steaming hot coffee. Not sure, but a run on the treadmill never makes me feel like I achieved something . It's .... stale somehow...
DrDan, I'm with you on that. Hate running first thing in the morning, especially when it's cold.
9.5 miles at lunch incl 3x(5mins easy, 5mins@MP, 5mins@HMP)
Brian it did come back to bite me later in the day/night I did a night shift last night and felt really tired, I do have to juggle things round quite a bit due to my shifts but will try and avoid an 80% followed by a long run again. And Brian that is an impressive gym routine
.Dr Dan I very rarely run in the mornings , the majority of my runs are done late afternoon after sleeping off a shift, the few times I HAVE got up early on a day of and run I hate the first few miles but feel so pleased with myself once its done and I have the rest of the day off
Stewart all you can do is stick with it, I often had to walk to get HR down, it was annoying taking 1 hour 25 to get my 8 mile route done, now its back down to 70 mins on a good day at the same HR , I was very strict with myself and avoided going to running club too, I had read enough to convince myself it was the way to go.
BD2000 how very true , I love getting out for those 70% runs now it feels a lovely nice relaxed pace I can even plod up a hill without HR going mad. My pace has gone from 10.45s to around 9s.
Chick glad you are off the bench good effort getting out in the cold..I actually love it though. As for treadmill running I can get 5 miles done but thats it, I as hoping to get some longer runs done on there but I really dont think I could handle to boredom after all
it looks as if your HR's % and pace is the same as mine, what are your times for 5k,10m, half mara times like?
mine are 21.05, 75mins, and 1.45mins.
Mace, Brian, Night Nurse and BD
thanks for all the advice is is appreciated taking on board what has been said I went out this evening and tried my best to relax and not worry to much about HR, once I got a feel for the pace I wanted to run I just ran. see stats below for 1hour run, just over 5 miles @11:33
average HR for the run 136 maxHR 147
Roy yes looks very close 3.40 mara 1.39 half ( PB) couple years ago but always low 1.40s ...10 mile 75 -78 mins 10k 46.-47 mins , never done a 5k I shy away from 10ks let alone 5ks,
ATD wow some mileage !! and healing vibes to you.
Works "do" last night and feeling a little delicate, might try a run later on though. The weather has been all over the place over the last couple of days.
poor andy Hope nothing serious with that niggle! You do monster miles ... do you stretch enough? And do you get regular massages? It may be just the thing to save you from breaking down. Just a thought... your training is very close to what the elites do but they get plenty of physio and SMT to be able to bear the workload.
48hrs of sickness and I am a little weaker and a little lighter!
But all recovered now and did 10.5m @ 70% yesterday and 9.5m @ 70% inc 45min @80% today. My first 80% run felt quite good. All over boggy fields and the downs so hard to keep the HR consistant.
My P&D plan starts on Monday. I certainly feel so much fitter, comfortable and faster at lower bpm than I did 6 weeks ago and ready to start a proper campaign. But I am starting to have concerns about the LT session. Basically P&D has a 9mile run with 4m @ LT (10m) pace. This would be 90%Max HR for myself. Having completed my first 80% run today HADD would say I am not ready for this. But if I spend the next 6 wks at 80% then another 6 weeks at 85% then I only have 4 more weeks before the taper starts. This is forgetting all of the VO2 (92%) stuff later in the P&D plan. Do I focus on squeezing all the toothpaste up from the tube and risk being well under prepared for my A goal, or do I leave some paste in the tube and jump into the Marathon plan?
Keir many runners use the 12 week P&D plans as a stand-alone mara plan - so you could do another 6 weeks Hadd with 1 or 2 subLT runs per week before jumping...
Still benched here...
What marathon Keir? As Tek says I tihnk I'll be doing the P&D 12 week plan to enable me to get a better base. Hopefully it'll turn out to be the right decision.
Badf news Tek. Any improvement at all?
Gaz - went for a 3m walk (to the pub) and my knee starting aching again - so I think I'm a fair way off running still...
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