Male Vets Over 40 Discussion - Page 3 - Training

sawney bean

07/01/2011 at 21:13

did 2 x 2 miles with 4 mins recovery last night 6.15 6.07 6.02 5.59
relaxed running, track tomorrow God willing

Stevie G .

07/01/2011 at 21:58

What was trhe idea behind that session Sawney? Starting just above MP and easing up the gears whilst comfortable?

sawney bean

07/01/2011 at 22:05

good question Steve, i ran at about 85%, was meant to run first two at around 6.15 pace and open up a little on the second two, i just ran free and comfortable in the 2nd set and didnt look at the garmin, trying to keep my form etc, dont know if this was the right thing to do lol

DASH RIPROD

09/01/2011 at 12:15

Hi 57.5,

maybe. more effort is required in the snow i suppose but i thought to get quick, you need to run quick.

not complaining though.

sawney bean

09/01/2011 at 14:05

track yesterday, 2 sets of 2 x 200 and 2 x 400

Stevie G .

09/01/2011 at 17:46

quality running 2 days out of 3 Sawney?

sawney bean

09/01/2011 at 18:32

no Stevie, Thurs and Sat, i think i posted on the 7th about the 6th. I am learning not to do stupid things like do two sessions in a row, bring a little bit if gym work into my running and do a long steady distance once a week, ie today, 12 miles, too much beer last night did not help, went around in average of 7 mins 40 today

Stevie G .

09/01/2011 at 18:40

that's still 2 days out of 3 isn't it?

Sounds tough to me though, but you're in good form.

sawney bean

09/01/2011 at 18:57

i suppose your right mate, i think this is the first time in a while that i have done three quality sessions in a week, usually its tues and thursday, but fitted in a saturday this week as well, yesterdays 200s were 34/35's and the last two 400's were 72 and 73 secs. NOW is three sessions a week too much?

Stevie G .

09/01/2011 at 19:06

maybe, but with the times you've been putting on the table who's to say that

those are some fast 400s. I suppose you're not doing many of each, but still...

sawney bean

09/01/2011 at 19:19

i think running is like buying a car and you listen to advice "dont buy a vw" "dont buy a ford" blah blah in the end you have to decide for yourself. I have made various training mistakes, two sessions in 2 days, 2 races in 4 days, etc etc and i have been pondering about the three sessions a week since yesterday to be honest. Will it make me a better runner, will it make me stronger?? Oh and I forgot to mention StevieG, I played football during the hols, i could hardly walk the next day, Do you still play??/

Stevie G .

09/01/2011 at 19:24

Maybe it'll work if one or 2 of the sessions are fairly short as it sounds a couple of yours were. If they're block busting 7-8milers maybe not.

I think I had a couple of games last year, but I'm an all or nothing character. I fuel completely into what I do, and truth be known now I don't miss playing, the kind of nasty people you get or any of it. I find in running that you 99% of the time get the result that you deserve, whereas in football I'd perhaps enjoy/ be satisfied say 1 game in 5.

Risk of injury doesn't make it worth it to be honest.

Having said that it leaves me free to watch loads more live games which pleases me.

Edited: 09/01/2011 at 19:24

sawney bean

09/01/2011 at 19:28

i played Saturday at a reasonable standard in Surrey and Northern Alliance in the NE but ended up playing Sunday mornings at the end, its was like the killing fields with people diving in, i do miss playing with my friends in the Highlands but running is my thing now. I will have to think about the three a week and see how i feel

Stevie G .

09/01/2011 at 19:43

I played at the lowest level, and was always the fittest player on the pitch, so when I arrived at games to find the team boasting about their wanton lifestyles and nights out, or smoking at half time I realised It was a bit of a waste in football at that level. The running is a sport you're 100% rewarded for staying disciplined.

The more my running came on, the less brave I was on the pitch both in tackling and at running with the ball!

57.5 Degrees of Pain

10/01/2011 at 20:24

DR,

I would say snow training is a bit like hills. Working different muscles to keep a solid base and balance plus the extra effort involved for a given speed will pay off in extra speed on a regular surface. Anyone else got any thoughts on this?

I value my knees and ankles too much to play contact sports these days. Even a game of squash takes me out of running for a couple of recovery days. In comparison running, biking and hiking are pleasantly pain free.

sawney bean

30/04/2011 at 22:39

thought i would re-energise this thread, still training hard and wiser i hope, 2 pb's in a week last month, 10 mile 57.40 and 10k 35.26, looking forward to a few more this year

knight rider

30/04/2011 at 23:04

Hi Sawney, forgot I dipped into this thread on the first page and forgot to hang around.

My main goal this year is a sub 30 minute 5 mile. I got close the other year with 30.33, but had a crap year last year and loads of races were in the extreme heat. Got a PB at the end of Feb of 38.38 for 10k and got Close to my HM PB in March with 1.25.50, so an encouraging start to the year.I was traig for amrarthon and I think the overall amount of running helped.

Any advice on cracking a sub 30 time? I think in previous years I have neglected endurance in the summer and I think concentrated more on the speed with the weekly mileage suffering.

Edited: 30/04/2011 at 23:24

sawney bean

30/04/2011 at 23:09

its not far away from 10k so maybe adopting these type of sessions, mate of mine on facebook was advised to do 20 x 300 metres with 100 metres recovery on track, as hard and as fast as you feel but even paced throughout

sawney bean

30/04/2011 at 23:10

6 x 1 miles
2 x 2 miles
3 x 2 miles

knight rider

30/04/2011 at 23:26

Sound like good seesions. What sort of pace/recovery would those be at?
The 20 x 300m sounds interesting, although I'd probably lose count after 10!